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Thread: RoundUP: 23 SuperCoolers tested (extreme TDP, lapping, moding, 250CFM+)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mascotzel View Post
    yes,but those are extreme conditions,benching only
    he states in the review that TRUE copper is benchmark only ,because of it's weight it should only be used on a horizontally mounted mainboard (and it's price too makes it undesirable for normal use)

    also,normal TRUE beats Megahalems only in the last test,extreme CFM, and the TRUE was lapped and modded mounting,while the Megahalems was used stock and had the best mounting kit from his opinion

    we'll work with him and other guys and see if we can do an acceptable translation
    My point was that Megahalems beats True, nothing more, nothing less.
    Which people used to not agree with.
    And this review once again proved them wrong.
    Sorry for confusion.
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    awesome collaboration! this definitely helped me pick my cooler for my i5

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmke View Post
    and should not be a reason to chose one over the other, especially if price is involved.
    Megahalems has better mounting, better base and performs much better than TRUE in low/medium RPM !
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    One quick question: have they (the reviewers) done remounts for all heatsinks? IMO its something worth the effort...

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    Am myself surprised the Mega came out on top , would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted , in fact i was pretty much convinced , still taking this with a grain of salt .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    Am myself surprised the Mega came out on top , would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted , in fact i was pretty much convinced , still taking this with a grain of salt .
    Did you at least read the name of the thread? It was lapped AND modded...
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    Awesome work there. BUT: "Supercoolers" and "air" don't belong into the same sentence
    Here I was, hoping to find an extensive evap roundup
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    i skipped to the last page ....spoiler alert !!! ...he died !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Here I was, hoping to find an extensive evap roundup
    Now that'd be truly amazing!
    Anyone willing to do it?
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    Send me the 'vaps and I will do it =))
    sorry but "beating" means a NONE negligible difference, anything below <5°C is IMHO a wash; and should not be a reason to chose one over the other, especially if price is involved.
    At this level, 2 degrees is all that separates the number one heatsink from the rest of the pack. Of course, it is not a reason to chose one over another, but it helps to know the exact differences between the heatsinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Send me the 'vaps and I will do it =))
    If someone sends me vaps I'll do it as well.
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    If 3C difference isn't significant for you then perhaps you're on the wrong forum...
    And testing on P4 isn't very relevant IMO... Or at least i7 would be much better.
    After a quick search I found this one:



    And it goes perfectly well with the review in the OP.
    Last edited by zalbard; 10-06-2009 at 10:18 AM.
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    got a dual core Prescott here which slightly overclocked (not overvolted yet) produces more heat than Core i7
    Bro, we now how hot the presshots were, and they are ok for testing heatsinks, but this is an overstatement at least. Maybe compared to an undervolted D0 they are hotter, but I'll show you some nice sweet miserable clocker i965 ES I have here.....oh boy...No P4 ever got this hot
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Did you at least read the name of the thread? It was lapped AND modded...
    would think the True would edge out once it was lapped and properly mounted
    No you my Russian friend did not read my post to well ,"would think " not "think " .

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    That's your problem right there. Just forget about how things look on paper as that's irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    No you my Russian friend did not read my post to well ,"would think " not "think " .

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    JMKE - I have benched P4's at 5GHz on air (Scythe Ninja). However, a Core i7 965 @ 4,3 on air is killing a True with serious fan on it. C'mon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    JMKE - I have benched P4's at 5GHz on air (Scythe Ninja). However, a Core i7 965 @ 4,3 on air is killing a True with serious fan on it. C'mon....
    You had a PRESCOTT at 5 GHz on air? Maybe the 65 nm variety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    You had a PRESCOTT at 5 GHz on air? Maybe the 65 nm variety?
    I said P4, not Prescott .

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    - I am not questioning your methodology. I am not going to comment on what you said above, because I totally disagree, just like I disagree with tests done with synthetic load generators. There are a thousand way of testing heatsinks, and I could not say "that is bad" and "that is good". Whatever works for your readers, that is something you know better. Just don't tell me a P4 is hotter then an i7
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumballguy View Post
    How well did the cat perform as a cooler? I couldn't see it in the graphs.
    Ummm not good! Tried the cat cooler and he has roasted chestnuts and is looking at me like I am retarded. I repeat...The cat cooler does NOT work good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmke View Post
    got a dual core Prescott here which slightly overclocked (not overvolted yet) produces more heat than Core i7
    Clearly you haven't met my w3520. It does 4Ghz Linpack stable at 1,13V or 4,2 at 1,216V, but oh dear, does it get hot (and draw power..). At 1,4V it collapses my SS when priming (which is tuned for 280W load). Imagine giving it 1,5V

    Seriously though, OCed low vid i7's are the most evil chips to date when it comes to power draw. Not even the B3 Kents or the Presshots can top them.
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    Well, who the heck is doing stock clocks heatsink testing anyway?
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    Didnt know that Zalman made such a good cooler, it is even better than TRUE
    in low/mid speed fans..
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    That is just one aspect of a heatsink test
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