HD5870 and HD5850 Reviews

[Tuvok-LuR-]

time to grab an used 4870x2

[FischOderAal]

Here's another german review:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php...073&Itemid=170

[Jor3lBR]

time to grab an used 4870x2

2 vs Brand New XFX HD 4870x2 2Gb for $500 ($250 each), shipping and tax included on eBay ----> priceless

Thanks ATI 5870

[mav2000]

Holy cow, the power consumption on these cards are sick when compared to their performance, this has really got the 295 beat....but I am going to wait a while and see how the price games go. Meanwhile I am happy playing with my 4870.

[natty]

i was hoping for more than 30% over GTX285

[Mean Machine]

Here's NordicHardware's: http://www.nordichardware.se/Recensioner/?skrivelse=528 (in Swedish, but still).

[gallag]

Looks good, More into cpu than gpu so excited to see these bad boys remove a bit of the old gpu bottleneck in a core2 vs ph2 vs i5 vs i7 review. And to the people trying to justify the more expensive, Power sucking nvidia gpus because they tie at times you sound as bad as the people doing the same with the ph2-965 over the i5-750. Seems that the best combo is yet again Intel and AMD, Who would have thought it.

[vardirox]

Just have anyone compare reading all the reviews versus *watching* the reviews of the Radeon 58xx Eyefinity in action on three 30" monitors... Nothing comes close!!!



PC Per Eyefinity Video Review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujf6P...e=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eghSP..._embedded#t=14

Reminder - Gaming on 3 x 30" is about 7 feets 6 inches which is Yao Ming territory!

[Leeghoofd]

Looking good ATI, bit overhyped by the marketing guys (as usual), but once drivers mature this is a beast... would really love to see 5850 reviews...

I'm really annoyed that so many reviewers think the 5870 is there to beat the GTX 285... wonder what world they have lived in the last few weeks...

At Bit-tech really fun to see a test where they cranck up the filtering and get more fps then with lower detail level applied...

Now let's hope the DX11 games are real showstoppers !!

[tajoh111]

Xfire for 5870 in Farcry2 as seen in my post 28% increase vs single card...
Xfire for 4870 vs 4870x2 91% increase.. near perfect scaling... I think the scaling for the profiles of the 5870 have a long way to go... even if they dont reach as high it will still be a substantial fps increase.

As for the Tflops, the 5870 is at 2.7? .. And again, look at the drivers, the performance is from launch drivers, that havent harnessed the power yet, and from old games, I think there is more in store with dx11. As well the speculation on the gtx380 is just that, I m sure the numbers will edge out the 5870, but who knows by how much, we could argue either way, and it wont make a difference until some real numbers are released, so for now, we should focus on what we know.. which is the 5870 is a powerful card and given the scaling and performance in games, seems like it has a lot of room to mature with drivers.

I don't know how much driver performance you can expect from the single card those. Considering the similarities between the 5870 architecture and the 4870 architecture, beside CF performance I don't know if there is going to be any real jumps in performance. I think alot of the transisters from the new rv8xx is dedicated to directx 11, so I can see performance not going up like crazy.

One more reason I am hopeful of NV performancewise is nv gtx 6xxx and gtx 8xxx, were all changes to new architecture and all them had huge performance jumps. Of course 5xxx gtx was a new generation and was terrible, I hope this is not the case because I want a strong competition from both sides, where both companies can make money and offer price drops to the consumer. The sad thing is considering the size of NV chips, the only way this happens is if NV big chips are competitive with AMD dual chip solutions or offers a 50% performance advantage over AMD single chip solutions, which I think NV is banking on.

I am not an NV fanboy as I have a 4870x2 and a 4890 and nothing from the gtx 2xx series lineup. I just want a strong competition from both sides, which I think everyone wants.

[Newblar]

Looking good ATI, bit overhyped by the marketing guys (as usual), but once drivers mature this is a beast... would really love to see 5850 reviews...

I'm really annoyed that so many reviewers think the 5870 is there to beat the GTX 285... wonder what world they have lived in the last few weeks...

At Bit-tech really fun to see a test where they cranck up the filtering and get more fps then with lower detail level applied...

Now let's hope the DX11 games are real showstoppers !!

you mean the next generation single gpu against the last gen's single gpu leader?
whats so wrong about that

[w0mbat]

Yummy

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...vapor-x-card/1

[zalbard]

wow

+1
That's a lot reviews at once! And all of them agree that the performance rocks!

[Vit^pr0n]

Man this thread is almost exactly the same as the 4800 series launch thread.

People were saying how they weren't that impressed since it wasn't 2x the performance of the 8800GTX and was slower than the 9800GX2

Look where the 4870 is now. With drivers, it has become a great card. Let's not forget that CF scaling for the 4800 series wasn't exactly close to 2x like it is now. Did everyone forget one of the driver releases by ATi that fixed CF scaling to be near double what it was at launch?

When will people learn

[villa1n]

I don't know how much driver performance you can expect from the single card those. Considering the similarities between the 5870 architecture and the 4870 architecture, beside CF performance I don't know if there is going to be any real jumps in performance. I think alot of the transisters from the new rv8xx is dedicated to directx 11, so I can see performance not going up like crazy.

One more reason I am hopeful of NV performancewise is nv gtx 6xxx and gtx 8xxx, were all changes to new architecture and all them had huge performance jumps. Of course 5xxx gtx was a new generation and was terrible, I hope this is not the case because I want a strong competition from both sides, where both companies can make money and offer price drops to the consumer. The sad thing is considering the size of NV chips, the only way this happens is if NV big chips are competitive with AMD dual chip solutions or offers a 50% performance advantage over AMD single chip solutions, which I think NV is banking on.

I am not an NV fanboy as I have a 4870x2 and a 4890 and nothing from the gtx 2xx series lineup. I just want a strong competition from both sides, which I think everyone wants.

I agree, unless its dx11 I dont think the performance is going to astronomically jump, i was talking about the CF performance mainly improving substantially, as the 5870x2 will hold the perf crown for a while, unless those massive gt300 cores somehow fit on a single pcb lol! Competition is good, this will drive nvidia s current offerings down quite a bit, but i think ATI has surprised them, so it will be interesting to see what the gt300 holds in store. I m sitting on the fence for a bit... although that vapor X version looks pretty damn sweet!! hehe.

[Dante80]

Yummy

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...vapor-x-card/1

Very nice indeed...

two minor rants though

1> heat in the case
2> cmon sapphire, it took ATI all these years to abandon the red pcb, and you still go for the blue?....go black baby...XD

[eric66]

lol @ amd amd can't do its still ati engineers under amd roof

[Jamesrt2004]

congrats amd/ati great card

(people complaining = their faults for hyping it on there own.)

seems a great card power consumption is insanley good 50@w at idle and under load its only a few more then my current 4870 with twice the performance! insane ....


cheapest in UK seems to be £300 at OCUK lol scan is at £350 O.o ebuyer @ 300/309/309 for their cards.. thought they would be about £15 cheaper then that but my prediction of $380 at launch was 100% spot on =) .. shame my UK was out (not that it matters, wait for the price drop when gt300 comes out)

drivers only seem to improve by what between 5~10% so I think we will need 2gb to take down the 295 beast




ok TPU has pissed me off... in their review one of the bad points was it didn't support cuda/physx ... what a fking moron.

[flopper]

Nvidia cards = dx10, old tech, cant do 10.1 nor dx11 in hardware.
ATI, owns dx10.1 and dx11, and games taking advantage of that, will just simply hurt Nvidia alot.
All the reviews have, old tech as dx9, dx10, and dx10.1 and the 5800 series basically crush everything out there using comparison to old tech.

So, how will it far down the road when dx11 becomes more adopted?
I am thinking frostbite engine 2, I am thinking bf3 and so on.
I would assume the card that I get, I can have for 2 years without any need for an upgrade.
Same as for my 4870.

Cant wait to game at 3 screens.

[eric66]

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...5fNl8yX2wucG5n

af is clearly superior with new ati cards i am liking that ati always was about iq so it continues

[Milos-stancene]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/..._card_review/9

his is Crysis! Nothing can seem to blow it out of the water

[gOJDO]

2 vs Brand New XFX HD 4870x2 2Gb for $500 ($250 each), shipping and tax included on eBay ----> priceless

Thanks ATI 5870

2x5850 will outperform 2x4870X2, will have less microstuttering, will OC more, will consume less energy and will dissipate less heat. So, 4870X2 for $250 is not such a good deal...

[randomizer]

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?im...5fNl8yX2wucG5n

af is clearly superior with new ati cards i am liking that ati always was about iq so it continues

Is it so clear in game though? Synthetics are all well and good, but don't necessarily mean anything in the real world.

[mk_dir]

OK today is the NDA break for AMD's HD5870/HD5850, however, anyone see a HD5850 review??

And yes, I can make me an idea about his performance (matched with GTX285) but seriously, not even one review?

[cirthix]

I like the techpower up review. They compare various pcie x lanes by taping off the conductors. testing 1x 4x 8x and 16x

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...caling/25.html

Interesting review.


XBIT's power consumption numbers look awesome.