Just to avoid the hassles of multi-GPU I prefer the 5870 already.
If all you play are a handful of very select games that happen to scale very well and run glitch free, SLI/CF is great.
But try my gaming habits on for size... You'll find out very quickly that multi-GPU still has a ways to go.
Chinese review: http://vga.zol.com.cn/149/1493519.html
Looking at game benchmarks with AA (8 benchmarks), 5870 wins 6 out 8.Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Loses clearly WiC, 10% slower in FC2 and GTX295 can't run 3 games at max settings. End of Story
Not everyone shops at newegg, i can pickup a GTX 295 for $429 locally. Newegg has some high prices, i dont shop there enless i HAVE to. Not saying the GTX 295 is a better card, but clearly overpriced at Newegg like most things, remember newegg selling the 80GB intel SSD for $500? lol
Last edited by Sh1tyMcGee; 09-22-2009 at 05:20 PM.
this is where i am thankful that i can kinda speak italian
just start taking pics of peoples kids
Just ignore people. I understand what you are saying. I personally am not made of money so I just like to watch the two companies. This is how it is suppose to be one company starts to get better so then the other company tries to beat it.
I am in the process of building a new computer and I will probably be going ATi whether it is the 5 series or the 4. Nvidia just needs to lower their prices I think personally. Yes there cards are good but they are not 500 dollars good. If the 300 series come out and does a better job meaning they do more then just 3 FPS then ATi I will look into them, but from past I expect this race to be about even. That is just my opinion.
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well good for youso all of fifteen GTX295's are the most expensive in the States?
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Which 6 out of 8? In Clear Sky 295 is slightly ahead (not counting 2560 where the game apparently crashed), in Crysis it's slightly behind, in FC2 it's substantially ahead, L4D slightly behind, WiC REALLY ahead, HAWX REALLY behind, RE5 behind (at higher res), GTA4 equal. So --> pretty much equal even with AA. Without AA, it's faster.Looking at game benchmarks with AA (8 benchmarks), 5870 wins 6 out 8.
Loses clearly WiC, 10% slower in FC2 and GTX295 can't run 3 games at max settings. End of Story
And Nedjo, I don't think sending a Newegg link with the card $520 on it really establishes that the card sells for $520. Here's a Turkish site for you http://www.teknolojix.com/pinfo.asp?pid=5148, this makes about $477, and if you buy it right now it's at about a %10 discount, bringing it down to $430-450.
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I was trying to establish point of reference!
I'm sure there are lots of places in the world where you can buy many goodies for awesome prices... but when ATI and NVIDIA speak about suggested e-tail price that we all argue about, it's a price on newegg
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I would have to guess that after a more refined driver is used the 5870 will ever so slightly edge out the 295 in almost all of these benches. Its only logical to assume this.
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You all keep forgetting that the 5870 is out with baby drivers probably still beta and like all new cards , it takes a few weeks at least to get drivers that it will unleash its full potential .
379 $ is not bad , also in October it should drop a bit more with the new ones coming out .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...02856&Tpk=5870
limit 1 per customer
CF benchies will have to wait
Finely there for sale on the Egg!
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
How much of a price drop should could we expect when the nvidia cards come out? (pending they are acceptable performance)
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295 is dual gpu 5870 is single gpu. what's all the fuse about.....
my 3870 is 5 times SLOWER
1 card is 5 times faster.
HAVE NO FEAR!
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You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Id wait for XFX, Sapphire's support and warranty sucks.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...02856&Tpk=5870
limit 1 per customer
CF benchies will have to wait
Even if 295GTX=5870. Power comsumption sells the deal for ATI. You can't ignore it Annihilat0r!
Eyefinity is also a good bonus...
Correct me if Im wrong , but I read that the 5870 is a dual core single gpu .295 is dual gpu 5870 is single gpu. what's all the fuse about.....
my 3870 is 5 times SLOWER
1 card is 5 times faster.
Will anyone have reviews with the 2GB version as well?
Sorry if its a repost
http://www.sweclockers.com/articles_...id=6195&page=9
oh, great, some stupid new model on the heatsink.
they say they cant afford things like a proper thermalpaste job, that the products would no longer be affordable and they have to cut costs somewhere.
i can kind of understand this stupidfor the box
but do i really want some grungy dreadlocked woman inside my computer? no. am i paying for it? yes.
why can't it just be black, i'd rather have proper cooling.
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I hope the fact that it is for sale and available for only $379 on launch day after all the hype shuts up the naysayers. I could call out names but this has to be a STFU moment for them already. Nvidia fanboys can be quiet until your crap comes in December.
Intel fanboys, rejoice today! In a month you can get a couple 5870s, and P55 mobos with Lucid Hydra on-board for ridiculous scaling. We are probably seeing the future of everything we hold dear today between 5870 and IDF. Today we have learned all is well in the world of PC hardware!
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I will correct you, it's not. It's just 2 times the shaders of the 4870/4890, so people assumed it was a dual core GPU...
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Wow in stock already at Newegg. Too bad it's got an ugly ass dreadlock Manbearpig on the HSF. Why can't they have tasteful graphics?
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