Freezone Elite x2 Build

[mobi2u]

Hi malkiewic I really really love what your doing with the 2 Elites you have..I've really enjoyed reading your build progress on the forums here and I hope there's plenty more photo's and adventure to come..
Don't be disheartened by the watercooling guys who have a pet problem with Coolit's TEC products, (Some more than others) they make some good points about performance and the high price of the Coolit units compared to the price of watercooling parts, but nowadays watercooling one off self builds can soon reach to be very expensive.A chrome 90 degree angled barb costing £5 can soon add up to Expensive.
Plus I've yet to hear of a Coolit Boras or Elite user who fried a £400 video card or Quad Extreme CPU because of a leak.
I like watercooling just as much as I like using these TEC products the wider the variety the better.
I also had 2 Asetek Xternal watercooling units a few years back and really liked using them.I know the watercooling purists will recoil like Dracula from a crucifix when I say I liked all in one external watercooling units as that's another big no no in the watercooler guru world, but they ran fault free for me for afew years and they had a nice LCD on the front showing me the fan speed and temps and a desktop control software panel to boot.And they looked nice in Silver and Chrome. The Asetek Xternals were a little pricey when they first came out at £300 and I remember reading the same type of comments back then like I read now about the price of the Coolit units and I have to admit the Coolit Elite's are on the high side from £250 to a top price of £290 here in the UK..I bought my Elite second hand, in good condition thou, previous owner took care of his PC equipment. I just could not afford to pay the price of a new Elite, If I had not found a good used one I'd never have had the chance of trying one.
I had read a few bad user reviews also about the Domino units being of bad build quality, cheap metal parts that broke easily etc.I read quite afew of those user comments.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents..Your building a high class project here and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work..Good luck with it..
Some modders have done some amazing inspirational builds with Elites and Boras units some with both like a Boras for the CPU and 2 Elites for a Quad GPU setup..I just love anything tech and enjoy even more reading other people's adventures on Xtreme forum and other PC modding forums.There's a guy from Canada over on the Coolit forum under their user modded build logs that has built an amazing self built Boras elite PC I wish I was as good!

[Utnorris]

Curious about a couple things:

1 - Did you replace the tubing that comes with the Coolit or did you use reducers?

2 - The rad is for the GPU only or do you use a rad on both loops?

3 - What size power supply are you using to power three of them with your system?

4 - Did you replace the cpu block with your own?

Thanks.

[malkiewicz]

Mobi2u....

Thanks for the kind words... I've invested allot of time and money into this project and I couldn't be happier (Hopefully I'll have more pictures available soon)... When this projects complete I'll have a total of 4 freezone elites installed - 2 for the CPU and 2 for the NB, SB & GPU's.... It's hard to believe but they'll all fit and I should be able to maintain a very clean look.. I've noticed allot people like to include external components, but I'm trying to keep everything inside the case while redusing the noise level. Thankfully I was able to purchase my last 2 freezone elites for less than $225 each...

I still like traditional water cooling but it's just as expensive if you're using high end components... I invested over a thousand US dollars into my last build (Good temps but I had to deal with noise fans)... You can build cheaper / cooler water cooling systems if you're willing to utilize external components, but that's just not my style...

I've also noticed allot of people complaining about the Domino units also... IMO they really can't keep up with the new or old CPU's when they are under any kind of load... Defiantly not for overclockers..... I'm sure someone found it useful...


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Utnorris....

1. Did you replace the tubing that comes with the Coolit or did you use reducers: I replaced most of the tubing to help increase the flow but I used some of the neoprene tubing to loop the freezone reservoirs together.... Used bitspower reducers to adjust tube sizes...

2. The rad is for the GPU only or do you use a rad on both loops: Currently I'm using the radiator in combination with a freezone to cool the GPU's, NB, SB & Mofest.... The CPU is cooled by 2 Freezone only - radiator isn't necessary...

3. What size power supply are you using to power tree of them with your system: Currently I'm using a 1000 watt Corsair PSU to power my system... I'm using a P4320 to monitor my power usage and at idle my system uses (588 watts) & under a full load its (760 watts)... Curious to see how much power the 4th will use....

4. Did you replace the CPU block with your own? Yes... I decided to use the Koolance CPU-350 water block... It cools approximately 5-6C better than the Coolit block.

[Utnorris]

Thanks for the answers, really love this project. Is it loud? It is just a single 120mm fan on each Coolit, correct?

[HDCHOPPER]

malkiewicz Exellent work and it shows , it's amazing once you insulate the blocks & tubeing how well these units work ...

Can't wait to see how well the 12 tec setup works for you....

[malkiewicz]

Utnorris

No the system isn't loud at all... Replacing the Coolit fans made a big difference ( 1 fan per Coolit system - each running @ 100% - High Air flow is important with the coolit systems - any reduction will cause your temps to increase).... The bedroom fan is louder than my computer...

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HDCHOPPER

Thanks... And yes the insulation did wonders for my build / cooling... Unfortunately the mail service from the US to Japan takes a long time and this causes many of my delays... Ooo and I just purchased additional freezone elites for my 12 TEC freezone - they should arrive within the next few weeks... That reminds me I need to place an order with Coolit Systems for a few custom made parts...

Maybe I should sell all of my extra Coolit parts (Pumps / Water Blocks / Brackets / MTEC Controllers / ECT)...

[malkiewicz]

I finally installed my 4th Coolit & It looks like I don't have enough power left to power up my 3rd GPU... Going to upgrade to a 1200 watt PSU & finish the wiring soon....

Oooo - still working on the 12 TEC Coolit but it wont fit... Going to use it in my other build with a Mean Well PSU

Current Power Consumption :
713 watts - Idle
926 watts - Full Load (CPU / GPU's & All 4 Coolits Maxed)

Temps:
(CPU 18C - Idle) (GPU's, NB, SB, Mosfet - 20.5C - Idle)



Decided to mod the lower Coolit again... I like Red better....



Used tape to cover up the hole for now....



The picture makes it look orange but It's really RED

[1Pcnut]

Have you ever been able to cool this to sub zero temps on the water??? I am planning on making a build a lot like yours but using the lian li 343-b case with 4 to 6 boreas to try and get my fluid to sub zero temps. I also found this coolant that will work to -50 or lower. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...roductId=32240 if your interested in this.

I will make a thread and post pictures and instruction still in research and planing stages.

[mobi2u]

Hi I've you have built a real unique and really extreme one off build..I've never heard of someone putttinging 4 Freezone Elite's into a single case build.I've learnt alot from you progress log as I'm a bit of a coolit equipment buff.Trying to put a dedent build together myself but it won't be anywhere near as Xtreme as this.Looking forward to seeing more of this build log.
I'd also be interested to know how chilled your liquid can be kept at now you run it through 4 Elites.
Just awesome..Nice big photo's aswell....

[Ultim8]

Nice work and I work for the disti in the UK that has the exclusive disti rights on coolit so i see quite alot of this.

Here is one of my customers modified Coolit rigs and they have a new one on the way but i cant say too much on that one yet as its up against some competition in the press.

http://www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk/for...read.php?t=653

Might give you some idea's.

Cheers

Ulti

[malkiewicz]

1Pcnut:

The lowest I had the fluid was 5C (Used all 4 stock Coolit Fans at max capacity - 120 CFM)... Unfortunately that's the coldest they'll go with or without a load (MTEC controller restricts the TEC's and limits them to 12 volts)... If you use a Mean Well PSU / bypass the MTEC controller you can reach -15C @ 13.2 volts... I wouldn't recommend going any higher unless you use liquid to cool the hot sides of the TEC (I'm currently working on a Coolit build that utilizes liquid to chill the hot side)...

Mobi2u:

This build took longer than expected but it's worth it... Currently my liquid temps are round 14-15C on both loops... The Coolit fans produced too much noise so I replaced them with some 90CFM / 19 dB-A fans from cooler master... The reduction in airflow makes it harder to keep it @ 5C especially when the sides are on the case (This increases my temps by another 1-2C)... Now I have all my fans controlled by my Aquaero fan controller (Keep them @ 100% 24/7)...

Ultim8:

Thanks and I love your customers build... Unfortunately my space / tools are limited... I try to do the best I can with what's available... Hopefully within the next year or so I'll have a new house with a legitimate workspace...

Finished the wiring today... I would consider this 90% done....

[Utnorris]

This makes me want to get a Boreas to play with. Awesome job! Love the look and nice results.

[Ultrasonic2]

Man that looks sweet !

[Vinas]

After it's all said and done, how much would you estimate you have in cooling parts?

[malkiewicz]

Estimated Build Cost

Lian-Li Case - $350
3x Fan Shroud - $30
920 i7 - $290
EVGA Classified x58 - $390
GPU's x 2 - $500
Corsair 1000 watt - $260
Corsair 128GB SSD - $330
Mushkin Redline 6GB DDR3 2000 - $240
WD 1TB Hard Drive x3 - $360
EK NB/SB/Mosfet Block - $145
DD GPU Blocks x2 - $276
Bitspower Sensors x2 - $20
Bitspower Reducers x 2 - $10
Bitspower Rotary Fittings - $84
Bitspower Barbs x5 - $20
Bitspower T-Rotary Fitting - $13
Coolit Elites x4 - $1000
Hose - $30
Coolant - $20
Isolation Tape - $20
Aquaero Controller - $180
Cooler Master Fans x 7 - $84
Koolance CPU-350 Block - $85
Wire / Pins / Connectors/ ECT - $100

Roughly $4817 US - Not including Shipping & Handling Fees

EDIT: Forgot the Pumps & Resevoirs

Laing DDC x2 - $170
Alphacool Reservoirs x2 - $160

[ridney]

wow! that should have cost you an arm and leg, but hell, whatever makes you happy! very nice rig btw takusan okane desu ka? hehe

[malkiewicz]

Thanks... Yes it cost allot but it's worth every cent... Working on another build now (Bigger / Better / Colder)....

[1Pcnut]

I agree it is wroth every penny you spent if nothing else but for the pure satisfaction of doing this. I wonder if Cool-it will send me a modification of the MTEC software so i can get subzero temps??? Also how do you plan on water cooling the TEC's??

[malkiewicz]

Yes this project was satisfying and I enjoyed every minute of it... Unfortunately my wife thinks I love my computers more than her... lol... Good luck with the software from Coolit... Below is a diagram for the water cooled TEC's...

Hope this helps....

[Vinas]

You definitely had the perseverance to see this rig through. I'll admit I was pretty skeptical that this rig was doomed, and regardless of the price I think it is extreme in it's own right.

So you proved the non believers wrong in the end. TBH though, for the price (over $2K in cooling), you can always go different routes with these builds. Some people will say "what about phase" etc, but really you had a design in your head and saw it through. Would I have done things differently? Sure, but that's not your style. To top it off it looks great, is EXTREME and is the most epic coolit system I've ever seen. You should be proud of that because I seriously doubt anyone is crazy enough to try to top this.

Kudos for that, sir and congratulations on a badass build!

[malkiewicz]

Thanks Vinas…. This was defiantly the most expensive / complex build I’ve ever done… One thing’s for sure… I’m defiantly going to use a bigger case next time… The limited space behind the MB tray / hard drive bay makes it very difficult to run the amount of wires necessary to power this build… Especially when you’re trying to hide all of them…

I can’t complain too much… I took this monster to work to show it off and within a day or 2 I had some legit build requests… Nothing nearly as complex as this but its still money in my pocket….

[Ultrasonic2]

You definitely had the perseverance to see this rig through. I'll admit I was pretty skeptical that this rig was doomed, and regardless of the price I think it is extreme in it's own right.

So you proved the non believers wrong in the end. TBH though, for the price (over $2K in cooling), you can always go different routes with these builds. Some people will say "what about phase" etc, but really you had a design in your head and saw it through. Would I have done things differently? Sure, but that's not your style. To top it off it looks great, is EXTREME and is the most epic coolit system I've ever seen. You should be proud of that because I seriously doubt anyone is crazy enough to try to top this.

Kudos for that, sir and congratulations on a badass build!

err no one said it wouldn't work?

It is a super slick install that's for sure

[EvilClocker]

Awesome Build!! My build is simular, I got a Boreas. and 2 Freezone Elites.. on a Core I7 and GTX 295..

few question for you

is your Corsair 1000 enough ?
Are you runn the Freezone 100% al the time ? (Did you have to make and adapter to plug them in ) ?
What are your Load Temps ?

[malkiewicz]

EvilClocker,

To answer your question the 1000watt Corsair is enough to power all 4 Elites, but it’s pushing the limit… Unfortunately this is just enough power and this could result in a PSU failure if the system ever spiked for an extended period of time (I recommend a 1200 watt PSU)…. I used a P4320 for the results…

Current Power Consumption:

713 – 725 watts - Idle
926 - 931 watts - Full Load (CPU / GPU's & All 4 Coolits Maxed)

Temps:

(CPU 18C - Idle) (GPU's, NB, SB, Mosfet - 20.5C - Idle)

I’m currently running 2 Freezones @ 100% w/ silent 90CFM Fans and the other 2 @ 60 – 70%....

Recently I decided to combine all the Freezones to make one loop… I was expecting the worst but I actually received good results… My system maintains a 14 – 15 C Idle depending on the ambient temps. As for load temps… I’m pushing 56-58C after about 2-3 hours under full load with the GPU’s slightly OC’ed and the CPU @ 4.23 GHz… I’m sure I can do better but I’m in the process of RMA’ing my EVGA x58 Board….

[EvilClocker]

Thanks,

I am currently running a Boreas and (1) Freezone Elite, With a EK Gold block, Core i7 860 at 4Ghz and GTX 295.

My Load get to 55-56C after 3 hrs of Prime With Furmark running on my videocard. When I added the GTX 295 I noticed alot more heat..


Here are a few pics of my work in progress