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    AMD Radeon HD 5870 Stripped: Pictures & Information

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    To begin with, the GPU is AMD's overhaul on transistor counts, and a bold work of engineering on the 40 nm manufacturing process, given the kind of problems foundry partners had initially. Apparently they seem to have recovered with most of them, as AMD's AIB partners are coming up with new products based on the 40 nm RV740 GPU on a weekly basis. The package holds a "diamond-shaped" die that is angled in a way similar to RV740, RV730, or more historically, the R600. The seemingly huge die measures 338 mm˛ (area), and for 40 nm, it translates to "huge", and is vindicated by the transistor count of ~2.1 billion. In contrast, AMD's older flagship GPU, the RV790 holds 959 million, and NVIDIA's GT200 holds 1.4 billion.

    The PCB has three distinct areas: the connectivity, processing, and VRM. To fuel the GPU is a high-grade 4 phase digital PWM power circuit, while the PCB has placeholders for an additional vGPU phase. The 8 (or 16 on the 2 GB model) memory chips, is powered by a 2 phase circuit. Power is drawn from two 6-pin PCI-Express power connectors, but there seems to be a placeholder for two more pins, i.e., to replace one of those 6-pin connectors with an 8-pin one. Bordering the GPU on two sides are the 8 GDDR5 memory chips, which AMD calls says is generation ahead of present GDDR5, and supports reference frequencies as high as 1300 MHz (2600 MHz DDR, 5.20 GHz effective). In the 2 GB variant, 8 more chips seat on the other side of the PCB. This is what perhaps, the backplate is intended to cool. On the connectivity portion of it, are the two CrossFire connectors, DisplayPort, HDMI and a cluster of two DVI-D connectors. There has been a raging debate about how adversely the small air vent would affect the card, but AMD is promising some energy efficiency breakthroughs, plus given how roomy the card is, the vent seems sufficient.

    Finally, information from ArabHardware.net suggests a pricing model on three of the first SKUs based on Cypress: HD 5870 2 GB, HD 5870 1 GB, and HD 5850 1 GB. All three use the same GPU and memory standard (GDDR5), but differ in clock speeds and GPU configurations. While HD 5870 sports 1600 stream processors, 80 TMUs, and 32 ROPs, HD 5850 has 1440 stream processors, 72 TMUs, and 32 ROPs. Although 32 ROPs puzzles us for a 256-bit wide memory interface, we suspect low-level design changes that make "32 ROPs" more of an effective count than an absolute count. While HD 5870 features over 800 MHz core clock and 5.20 GHz memory, its little sibling has over 700 MHz core clock and 4.40 GHz memory. Price points expected are US $449 for Radeon HD 5870 2 GB, $399 for HD 5870 1 GB, and $299 for HD 5850. AMD is expected to announce all three models on the coming 23rd.





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    heh, yet another 5xxx thread

    the prices are nice after all, 299$ for the 5850 is good, 399$ for the 5870 is... ok... but the 2gb card for 449 sounds weird...
    who would want 2gb on his card? but oh well... a 50$ premium isnt that bad at all for double mem...

    one thing i really dont like about the 5000 series though.... the heatsink SUCKS!!!!!
    double slot heatsink with a 1/2 slot exhaust... wth? i dont care if it works good enough or even works well... its retarded as a full slot would result in lower temps = less noise, if not at stock then at least when overclocked... i hope we will see propper 4xxx series heatsinks on partner cards soon...

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    Do the 4 primary core mounting holes look the same as previous generation GPU's? Wondering if the main part (core+mem) of my still unused MCW-4870 will fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    heh, yet another 5xxx thread

    the prices are nice after all, 299$ for the 5850 is good, 399$ for the 5870 is... ok... but the 2gb card for 449 sounds weird...
    who would want 2gb on his card? but oh well... a 50$ premium isnt that bad at all for double mem...

    one thing i really dont like about the 5000 series though.... the heatsink SUCKS!!!!!
    double slot heatsink with a 1/2 slot exhaust... wth? i dont care if it works good enough or even works well... its retarded as a full slot would result in lower temps = less noise, if not at stock then at least when overclocked... i hope we will see propper 4xxx series heatsinks on partner cards soon...
    2GB likely for 6 monitors? I definitely won't be pulling out $300 of the low end of the first gen DX11 cards. Seems a bit high. I hope we see some 4890 price drops muhahaha
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    Those dewars suggest to me we will see some numbers soon , and yeah 2 gigs are likely for multiple monitor setups .
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    one thing i really dont like about the 5000 series though.... the heatsink SUCKS!!!!!
    double slot heatsink with a 1/2 slot exhaust... wth? i dont care if it works good enough or even works well... its retarded as a full slot would result in lower temps = less noise, if not at stock then at least when overclocked... i hope we will see propper 4xxx series heatsinks on partner cards soon...
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    Yes, close this thread please. This mark the sixth. Radeon HD 5870 will be 850 MHz from AMD's official slides at the September 10th event. ArabHardware.net is only spouting things we've already known.

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    atleast the heatsink looks decent.

    But I agree with most of you when you say the price tag is ridiculous...

    I thought ATI would not be price gouging like Nvidia...I guess I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    one thing i really dont like about the 5000 series though.... the heatsink SUCKS!!!!!
    double slot heatsink with a 1/2 slot exhaust... wth? i dont care if it works good enough or even works well... its retarded as a full slot would result in lower temps = less noise, if not at stock then at least when overclocked... i hope we will see propper 4xxx series heatsinks on partner cards soon...
    Not really.
    Temps will not be affected.
    Noise will increase very slightly but still not to a noticeable degree compared to a full vent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    atleast the heatsink looks decent.

    But I agree with most of you when you say the price tag is ridiculous...

    I thought ATI would not be price gouging like Nvidia...I guess I was wrong.
    Price tag ridiculous at under $400? I hope that was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    atleast the heatsink looks decent.

    But I agree with most of you when you say the price tag is ridiculous...

    I thought ATI would not be price gouging like Nvidia...I guess I was wrong.
    What? It has more power than a 4870X2 and GTX295, is brand new yet still cheaper and your complaining?


    Aslo, ATI dont do the gouging, the retailers do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    atleast the heatsink looks decent.

    But I agree with most of you when you say the price tag is ridiculous...

    I thought ATI would not be price gouging like Nvidia...I guess I was wrong.
    Well they are not price gouging as much as Nvidia is/has the pricing is actually very good compared to the pricing and performance Nvidia currently offers, and give AMD a break, at least they will now actually MAKE some PROFIT, the company deserves to get a good return for it's obvious hard work.
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    Lol! what an idiot!
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    Pretty slack PCB design :S There's unused space all over the place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhys View Post
    Lol! what an idiot!
    What? I didn't know, as a consumer you wanted to pay more.
    Please, if ATI would be losing money then the company would not be here..

    Did you ever take marketing or business classes in your life? Apparently not seeing that you think that ATI loses money selling GPUs...Now who's the idiot?

    OK, maybe ATI is not getting the same % of profit as Nvidia but it's not that far off.

    And $400 for a Mid class GPU is cheap...hahaha...maybe where you live, money grows on trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    What? I didn't know, as a consumer you wanted to pay more.
    Please, if ATI would be losing money then the company would not be here..

    Did you ever take marketing or business classes in your life? Apparently not seeing that you think that ATI loses money selling GPUs...Now who's the idiot?

    OK, maybe ATI is not getting the same % of profit as Nvidia but it's not that far off.

    And $400 for a Mid class GPU is cheap...hahaha...maybe where you live, money grows on trees.
    Are you still missing the point that its faster then a 295 but a lot cheaper AND a single GPU solution instead of SLI?
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    Any news on a 5890?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post
    Are you still missing the point that its faster then a 295 but a lot cheaper AND a single GPU solution instead of SLI?
    are you still missing the point that it was not meant to compete with the GTX 295??

    Why are people so dumb???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    And $400 for a Mid class GPU is cheap...hahaha...maybe where you live, money grows on trees.
    2.1b Transistors is not mid range buddy, not in the slightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    What? I didn't know, as a consumer you wanted to pay more.
    Please, if ATI would be losing money then the company would not be here..

    Did you ever take marketing or business classes in your life? Apparently not seeing that you think that ATI loses money selling GPUs...Now who's the idiot?

    OK, maybe ATI is not getting the same % of profit as Nvidia but it's not that far off.

    And $400 for a Mid class GPU is cheap...hahaha...maybe where you live, money grows on trees.
    Ok you truly are an idiot!
    I want AMD/ATI to exist as healthy competition will benefit us all in the long term! You seem rather short sighted.

    AMD/ATI wasn't far from broke not so long ago, hence why they were forced to sell off their Fabs.

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    I haven't taken business classes, it's a very simple subject that I bet I know infinitely more than you about. Perhaps a good place for you to start is where money 'actually' comes from and why it can never be paid back in full, i.e. the biggest flaw in our financial system and one of the biggest cones the world has seen, don't talk to me about business sir as you are punching above your weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    What? I didn't know, as a consumer you wanted to pay more.
    Please, if ATI would be losing money then the company would not be here..

    Did you ever take marketing or business classes in your life? Apparently not seeing that you think that ATI loses money selling GPUs...Now who's the idiot?

    OK, maybe ATI is not getting the same % of profit as Nvidia but it's not that far off.

    And $400 for a Mid class GPU is cheap...hahaha...maybe where you live, money grows on trees.
    Calling 5870 a mid class video card. Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r V2 View Post
    2.1b Transistors is not mid range buddy, not in the slightest.
    Yup, since when x870 is considered mid-range? ;-)

    I guess that title goes to 4830, 4770 and 4670.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excessiveplayer View Post
    are you still missing the point that it was not meant to compete with the GTX 295??

    Why are people so dumb???
    WTF!!! is wrong with your brain???

    It's the highest performing card on the planet???
    How is it not high end???

    Yes eventually it will not be high end, but for now it's as high end as you can get!
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    let's hope they step up GPGPU with the 5870.

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    All this ranting and no one can answer me why a 5890 hadn't been speculated or if anyone knows IF it will come out after or if the 5870x2 will be the highest end.

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