The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[Revv23]

I hope I'm wrong but typically when there is such a small amount of info around pre-launch it's because there isn't much exciting data around to leak.

[Calmatory]

I hope I'm wrong but typically when there is such a small amount of info around pre-launch it's because there isn't much exciting data around to leak.

Talk about 1600 shaders isn't exciting? Yeah, they keep everythinng closed, Nvidia can almost rest that theur GT300 will be significantly faster. And BOOM; 2000 shaders @ 995 MHz with $299 price tag, full availability from day one.

Now I sit back and wait for the first "omg lolz no " postings from people with no sense of humour. (1600/773MHz for me as a real guess.).

[labs23]

Specifications most likely. Benchmarks and reviews will come later

I agree, might turn up that way. And of course them stating the date for the hard launch.
Who knows, the hard launch might just be 2 weeks after the 10th.

I hope I'm wrong but typically when there is such a small amount of info around pre-launch it's because there isn't much exciting data around to leak.

More like it, but not this time it seems.
I bet we won't end up saying "There's nothing special about it." this time, I mean its DX11 and all that(hype?). LOL.

[flopper]

Who needs Viagra when ati is not letting any information slip between their lips about specs?

[Dainas]

Who needs Viagra when ati is not letting any information slip between their lips about specs?

if theres one thing I've learned about the ATI only crowd, its hope springs eternal. Always hoping to have a product that smashes nvidia the way the 9700pro did and then dancing like little school girls just because it competes.

[Rhys]

if theres one thing I've learned about the ATI only crowd, its hope springs eternal. Always hoping to have a product that smashes nvidia the way the 9700pro did and then dancing like little school girls just because it competes.

What???
From my understanding the current gen competes pretty darn well?
Guess you must be in the Nvidea only crowd who cries like little schoolgirls when ATI/AMD competes.

[Origin_Unknown]

What???
From my understanding the current gen competes pretty darn well?
Guess you must be in the Nvidea only crowd who cries like little schoolgirls when ATI/AMD competes.

or refuses to beleive anything ATI rumour related, no matter how realistic but when a rumour of nvidia having a card that has 4ghz gpu, 12ghz shader and 10000000ghz ddr188 ram and pulling 0.0001w at full load they beleive it instantly with the line "zomg this will send ati to the grave" etc etc

[flopper]

if theres one thing I've learned about the ATI only crowd, its hope springs eternal. Always hoping to have a product that smashes nvidia the way the 9700pro did and then dancing like little school girls just because it competes.

ati has owned Nvidia in all the games I played since 99.
But I play mostly MMOg without stuttering issues using ati cards but that is just me.

[Tim]

ati has owned Nvidia in all the games I played since 99.
But I play mostly MMOg without stuttering issues using ati cards but that is just me.

lol, that's all I can say to that.

[Particle]

if theres one thing I've learned about the ATI only crowd, its hope springs eternal. Always hoping to have a product that smashes nvidia the way the 9700pro did and then dancing like little school girls just because it competes.

Realistically, I think you've got this backward. There is a lot of room for people who strongly prefer ATI hardware without diving into descriptions of delusional fanaticism. The truth is, ATI hardware is generally in the same ballpark. It would have to smash nVidia performance by an absolutely insane margin before many people would consider it on an equal footing. We see the same thing happen between the parties debating the merits of AMD and Intel processors.

When it comes to changing established perceptions, equality just isn't enough.

Some people don't seem bothered by this problem and recognize ATI for what it is. It's a competitive hardware house who during this last generation provided a much better bargain. I see no evil in that.

[spursindonesia]

Realistically, I think you've got this backward. There is a lot of room for people who strongly prefer ATI hardware without diving into descriptions of delusional fanaticism. The truth is, ATI hardware is generally in the same ballpark. It would have to smash nVidia performance by an absolutely insane margin before many people would consider it on an equal footing. We see the same thing happen between the parties debating the merits of AMD and Intel processors.

When it comes to changing established perceptions, equality just isn't enough.

Some people don't seem bothered by this problem and recognize ATI for what it is. It's a competitive hardware house who during this last generation provided a much better bargain. I see no evil in that.

TRUE THAT, +1.

[eric66]

if theres one thing I've learned about the ATI only crowd, its hope springs eternal. Always hoping to have a product that smashes nvidia the way the 9700pro did and then dancing like little school girls just because it competes.

lol nvidia bot how about x1900 series top notch performance with superior iq and 'hdr and aa at the same time' lol did it remind u smthng go and bs elsewhere except r600 series there wasn't that much difference between ati and nvidia since 9000 series

[Hell Hound]

That thing looks huge.

[Jowy Atreides]

That thing looks huge.

that's because it's a shoop for teh lulz

not correct scale

[Biker]

That thing looks huge.

That's what she said

Seriously though I need more power for single card 1600p gaming so ATI and Nvidia... get them out there already my credit card needs some action!

[570091D]

lol nvidia bot how about x1900 series top notch performance with superior iq and 'hdr and aa at the same time' lol did it remind u smthng go and bs elsewhere except r600 series there wasn't that much difference between ati and nvidia since 9000 series

there are many large differences between ati and nvidia, first and formost being their style of building gpus!

there are advantages and disadvantages for owning a card from each brand, it all depends on what you use your rig for and what games you play. these arguements stating "zomg ati pwns nv again!!11!!1!!11!" or visa versa are silly, it's up to each one of us to look at the data and decide where to spend our hard-earned greenbacks. we don't know the specs for either camp, we don't know the performance, we don't know the cost. i'm down for some tin-foil-hat speculation, but these statements about there being ONE AND ONLY ONE good gfx company are useless.

[Hell Hound]

Their can only be one

[Dainas]

there are many large differences between ati and nvidia, first and formost being their style of building gpus!

there are advantages and disadvantages for owning a card from each brand, it all depends on what you use your rig for and what games you play. these arguements stating "zomg ati pwns nv again!!11!!1!!11!" or visa versa are silly, it's up to each one of us to look at the data and decide where to spend our hard-earned greenbacks. we don't know the specs for either camp, we don't know the performance, we don't know the cost. i'm down for some tin-foil-hat speculation, but these statements about there being ONE AND ONLY ONE good gfx company are useless.

My sentiments exactly, I just do not see what brings on the hate for one brand or another. I will always buy what is best for my needs and interest, I only like sngle gpu more for simplicities sake. (simple for us even if not for Nvidia to make it)

lol nvidia bot how about x1900 series top notch performance with superior iq and 'hdr and aa at the same time' lol did it remind u smthng go and bs elsewhere except r600 series there wasn't that much difference between ati and nvidia since 9000 series

Thanks for proving my argument, atleast indirectly.Also from 2002-2005 I only bought ATI card for my main rig. Also guess what card I owned most of 2006, an X1900XT!

The problem was that card was a real late comer and the X1800XT was not what was needed to dethrone or even shake the ages old grip the 7800GTX had at that point. Allot of people considered a pair of 7900s better, glad for Oblivions sake I didnt. I just disdane how ATI has NOT unarguably wrangled back the crown since the R580 days, a card that itself was a pale victory next to the 9700pro. The only thing that really gets me excited for the HD5870 is value, not to awe in its performance.