[HKEPC] Intel Core i3 Clarkdale Review: 32nm + GPU Inside

[Chad Boga]

So are Intel giving up on offering performance oriented Dual Cores and just focussing on the value to mainstream segment only with their Duals?

[kl0012]

so where is drwho?
what was that francois? 2.5x performance of x4500 huh?

roooiiighht... i told everybody a while back that perf isnt revolutionary at all :P
i wonder why charlie thought its going to be so great...

He was almost right. The perf gain is 2x on average, sometime 2.5x. May be at the intro time it will be 3x with better drivers.

[massman]

The performance doesn't have to be revolutionary; this solution is ideal for workstations where no great graphics card needs to be present. And that part of the IT community is still larger than the gaming community.

[Xoulz]

Everyone can now play Crysis @ 9 frames per second.


So that means WoW should run on IGP... and thats good enough for Moms, Pops, kids & offices.

Micro and mini ITX boards for the general masses..! Those who want/need more, can plop a $89 DX11 card in and play whatever.


Gamerz are a different story and won't even bother in the first place, was that ever in question?

[ajaidev]

The performance doesn't have to be revolutionary; this solution is ideal for workstations where no great graphics card needs to be present. And that part of the IT community is still larger than the gaming community.

Some months ago we wrote a simple filtering software for a NGO for free. But alas they did not like the CUI so we made a GUI useing VB and Oracle. Even then ppl did not stop the complains such as this does not seem good with vista, etc. In the end we had to use flash based interface all for noting since some older PC's were hanging trying to run the flash based GUI.

In performance i have no idea how flash can match the likes of VB + Oracle...
If things go in this direction ppl will like prettier and prettier GUI's and that will need GPU support in some situations.

[Arthur]

Good power consumption result for workstation out there.

[***Deimos***]

Am i the only one that noticed that GPU and CPU are seperate dies on one chip.
Just because the one used in review had poor performance doesn't mean that's what ALL chips will be stuck with. Intel can easily outfit different/better/worse GPU.

Heck, I'm sure if they were kind and generous enough to give nVIdia license, you could even see i5+GF9400 on one chip.

[geo]

cpu performace isn't much better than e8400, which is surprising considering this is supposed to have HT

[Hornet331]

cpu performace isn't much better than e8400, which is surprising considering this is supposed to have HT

yeah... but the difference is that i3 is lowend and E8400 was midend when it was released...

So now you get previouse generation midend performance in the lowend bracket for lowend price. Good enough for me.

[dinos22]

i'm confused
if one sticks an i3 in a P55 board how are you going to get VGA interface if the board doesnt have one.... .... u'd still have to get a gfx card or a board that has a vga interface

[Ozzfest05]

i'm confused
if one sticks an i3 in a P55 board how are you going to get VGA interface if the board doesnt have one.... .... u'd still have to get a gfx card or a board that has a vga interface

+1 I dont understand this interface right now...

[NeXaR]

Another (maybe stupid) question. is there any chance that there will be ANY mobo for this with dual video out? i want to build one HTPC and connect it to a standard 17" monitor for normal use and to a 32" LCD for movies and that kind of things.

[Hornet331]

i'm confused
if one sticks an i3 in a P55 board how are you going to get VGA interface if the board doesnt have one.... .... u'd still have to get a gfx card or a board that has a vga interface

Simple, you don't.
To make the IGP work, you need a PCH that support FDI (flexible display interface) and thats the H5x or the Q5x.

Quite entertaining, how fast people forget:

http://www.hkepc.com/2268

That was news back from Jan. 09.

[ajaidev]

i'm confused
if one sticks an i3 in a P55 board how are you going to get VGA interface if the board doesnt have one.... .... u'd still have to get a gfx card or a board that has a vga interface

Most likely i3 will need a different version of P55 mobo maybe something like a P7P55G the difference a vga/hdmi port and maybe a increased price tag.

[RejZoR]

It hardly comes close to GeForce 9400. And even 9400 is a crappy chip...

[Hornet331]

It hardly comes close to GeForce 9400. And even 9400 is a crappy chip...

The performance doesn't have to be revolutionary; this solution is ideal for workstations where no great graphics card needs to be present. And that part of the IT community is still larger than the gaming community.

this.

[dinos22]

well i3 works with p55 we know that already
it's been posted online
i didnt realise that there will be boards with this Flexible interface thing
bit clearer now

[clayton]

I was expecting record low power consumption numbers for Intel's next-generation dual core. Oh well.

[sdsdv10]

It hardly comes close to GeForce 9400. And even 9400 is a crappy chip...

I don't think that is the point. Every computer I have every had at work had intergrated Intel graphic chips, and my company has literarly thousands of these types of PCs. The floor I'm working on right now has at least 30 PCs on it, and all of them have integrated graphics. It may not be good enough for games, but it works just fine for my job and the hundreds of people in my building running Office apps. This is the market they are going after and it will be quite large.

[Kingcarcas]

Great and just how much are H5* and Q5* boards going to be?

[doompc]

There might be something like this to use the Clarkdale IGP on P55 boards:


Does anybody know for sure if H55 boards will support Lynnfield ?

[Hornet331]

Great and just how much are H5* and Q5* boards going to be?

Same as P55... maybe some cheaper, as they are nothing more then Ibexpeak with FDI.

H55 will be probably cheaper since there are some features cut, H57 a bit more expensive.

[Nintendork]

HD3300 + Athlon X2 5400+

At A time I played Crysis Low (Water on High) @800x600 with 25-40fps.
Anno 1404 25fps 1024x768 medium
Half Life 2 40FPS 800x600 High
Far Cry 45FPS 800x600 Very High
Quake 4 30FPS 800x600 High

Try to do that with an Intel IGP. Even a comparison between AMD/Nvidia IGP's vs an Intel one is just an insult to both of them.


The reality is that there are IGP's and "there are IGP's". Some people are just happy with the kind of gaming and IGP delivers (not wanting to spend more or just for the sake of having fun) when this things are not garbage(G45 for example).


AMD Fusion (Llano) has a DX11, UVD 3.0 GPU. Maybe an RV810 HD5200 @32nm. That will destroy any 780G/785G in 3D performance. Some people I know drool thinking about it (users on the cheapo side, internet cafe owners, mmo users)

[Drwho?]

if I was you guys, i would not trust performance measured with a driver that is 6 months before the launch ...
Just my 2 cents. Use your common sense, iGFX is not like a processor, it is heavily dependant on the maturity of the drivers ...

Francois

[ajaidev]

if I was you guys, i would not trust performance measured with a driver that is 6 months before the launch ...
Just my 2 cents. Use your common sense, iGFX is not like a processor, it is heavily dependant on the maturity of the drivers ...

Francois

Drivers are something intel is not good at. Hope this changes with the i3 but most likely they are more focused on Larabee than i3 at this point of time.