** OFFICIAL ** Intel DX38BT & DX48BT2 BoneTrail Thread

[Manel]

Man, had my rig powered down (umpluged from the socket) for some time while waiting for my MS keyboard to be replaced (went dead) and when powering back on guess what? Yes, the usual quirks that this BoneTrail just loves to take as through till it finally boots. Did I miss that already!
It was either the 3 long beeps (mem issue) or just plain fans spinning full speed but no boot. This board has the temper of a woman!
Anyway, glad to have it back up and running finally.
I was so willing to update to 2000 but now I kinda feel like I shouldn't anymore, from your experience. I haven't had the need to go into recovery mode but will it freeze also when you enter BIOS normally?

[Manel]

Intel download page for all OS is now Not Found!!! WTF

[GumaLive]

Hey guys,
previously I was posting here my troubles with OCZ memory.
- I had 1st pair OCZ3P1600EB4GK(OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Platinum Enhanced Bandwidth Edition), but I wasn't able to get it on 1600 FSB
- RMA -> Second pair same issues in Memtest, random reboots, very unstable at 1600
- I bought new PSU 625W -> 1250W and situation got better. Random reboots resolved. But memory still not fine
- RMA from Czech Republic to Netherlands to OCZ factory. New memories same issues
- So I used PC on default 1333 FSB, which worked OK
- As time passed and DDR3 price went down I bought OCZ3X16004GK (OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Intel Extreme Edition)
>>> Bang all issues resolved :-) I'm now fine at 1600 FSB. Using XMP profile. CPU at 2,8GHz with default voltage. All test fine. PC is very stable. No power on/watch dog issues.

So guys if you'll have troubles look for stronger PSU and try another memory. OCZ Platinium edition is just somehow not compatible.

I have now 4 GB of memory. I would ask if some of you have 8 GB on 1600 FSB?

[Manel]

Hey Guma
Yes, OCZ mem with this board has been hard sometimes, don't know about other brands though.
I was kinda eyeing the Corsair Dominators, maybe they release dual channel kits again, now with the P55 coming up and Phenom II, DHX+ looks sweet.
Good to know your problem is now solved. Maybe it's just the Plats that don't get along with the board. The Intel Extreme Edition were designed for this chipset so I guess they had to work flawlessly.
8GB on 1600 even on X48 is not officially supported I believe, but I think some people here hsve it working. Not sure though.

[Budman]

Manel I have had it freeze up in both recovery and normal, smack the woman even though she has been told many times, it will make you feel better. I just set back to default and reset all my settings seems to be good, but then again i haven't found the need to go into the bios recently. You will sleep better knowing we all have to beat this woman of a board to get her to work. Once shes working though it is hard to stop her.

[GumaLive]

Hey Manel, my plans are like this:
- To put CPU to 3,2 GHz and make it stable. Test for month or longer to verify issues, stability and heat. Save configuration.
- Go back to 1333 FSB and put 8GB RAM. (I'll try to use my both OCZ kits extreme-OCZ3X16004GK + platinium-OCZ3P1600EB4GK)
- Hopefully if it will work on 1333 FSB, so then I'll go to 1600 :-)
If it will not work maybe later DD3 memories with lover voltage (1,65V) will work better.
- I'll put here my results

In BIOS I'm really missing feature to save more then 1 configuration. There is only optimal defaults, nothing else. I'd like to have saved about 5 configurations. Isn't there any trick? My trick is in pencil & paper :-) Or may I use Intel Integrator Assistant?

I had no issues while updating BIOS to 2000. Only boot CD not recognized my DVD drive, so I updated by using EXE file without issues.
- Right now I noticed that I had enabled RAID. I think I read somewhere that it is needed to enable Native mode. Ou... so possibly this was my mistake.

[Manel]

As I understand it, the issues (freeze) only happen while in the BIOS, right? No problems while in normal (Windows) operation, correct? If that is so, I don't need to enter BIOS that often, guess flash it is.
Anyone noticed any performance improvements, like higher clocks or lower voltages?
This board we have is either a nice lady when she wants to, but she can be a naughty girl too. I guess it's turn on actually!!
Anyway, Guma, 8GB@1333MHz shouldn't be an issue I guess (if those OCZ sticks behave). 1600 with 4 populated slots should be challenging, hope you can get it working. I was hoping to do that too sometime, I'm also kinda expecting to get some low voltage (1.65V) kits when the new dual channel ones come up for the socket 1156 boards, should be soon enough.
Intel should be making changes to the download page, some pages are still "not found".
Guess maybe they'll release a new BIOS to fix the freeze issue, that would surprise me, going past the 2000 mark!!

[Manel]

Just read Corsair is in fact going to launch new mem kits for i5 platform, even with sticks of 4GB densities. Cool!! I don't think our boards support 4GB sticks, not sure though. Have to read the specs.

[Manel]

Intel download site is still not working properlly.
They have already Pre-release BIOS for the P55 boards (4 models) but there is no info about them. Intel might have shot itself in the foot with all this i3/5/7/9 thing. Although it makes sense to divide into performance categories of course, having i7 in two different sockets for example will make things hard for some people. Still, those who build their rigs (like us) will be properlly informed when doing it, but it will be difficult for some.
BIOS for P55 boards start around 3000, still can't understand BIOS numbering scheme for Intel.
They're not answering emails regarding IDCC anymore, on vacantion maybe?!

[soccergeek24]

Man, had my rig powered down (umpluged from the socket) for some time while waiting for my MS keyboard to be replaced (went dead) and when powering back on guess what? Yes, the usual quirks that this BoneTrail just loves to take as through till it finally boots. Did I miss that already!
It was either the 3 long beeps (mem issue) or just plain fans spinning full speed but no boot. This board has the temper of a woman!
Anyway, glad to have it back up and running finally.
I was so willing to update to 2000 but now I kinda feel like I shouldn't anymore, from your experience. I haven't had the need to go into recovery mode but will it freeze also when you enter BIOS normally?

Manel,

After updating BIOS to 2000, i went on vacation for almost a week (off and unplugged). I turned it back on today and it booted up fine. Also, I haven't had any of the problems with BIOS freezing; that being said, I also haven't been doing any OC'ing for a while. Everything is running stock speed. Not sure if this information helps any, but there it is...

[Manel]

Hey SG, thanks for the tip. I guess I'll have to flash to be sure. Maybe it's one of those things, either you have it or you don't.
Good to know about the freeze issue, that surelly makes me feel more confident to flash to 2000.
I'm also on stock settings now, haven't Oc'ed in a while also. No need to right now. I'll be back to it soon just for the rush, but stock is good enough for normal use.
Does your board cope well with the 4 sticks of mem? Are they running at 1600?

[soccergeek24]

Does your board cope well with the 4 sticks of mem? Are they running at 1600?

No, Unfortunately it can't get it to run all 4 sticks at 1600. Other than the speed, everything works perfectly. I was debating for a while about switching to 2x 2 GB stick (or even 2x 4 GB), but really couldn't justify the extra expense. Since I am not really doing any OC'ing, i figured 4X 1 GB sticks running at 1333 would suffice for now.

[Manel]

That's odd, the DX48BT2 should have no problems with 1600 (guess not even DX38BT), although officially I believe 1600 is only on 2 populated slots, not all 4. Anyway, Intel should have already solved that issue, I guess it puts too much load on the mem controller, although other manufacturers don't seem to have a problem with it. Still, it's Intel...
2x2GB should be able to get there tough, not sure the board supports 4GB sticks. I was looking at the manual but nothing is mentioned, only the 8GB limit. I guess it does, two sided sticks I guess.

[GumaLive]

Hey guys, check this link:
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/1788...leasenotes.htm
It's release notes for Intel Matrix Storage Manager.

Check the number of "Known Issues". I hope there wil be a lot of BIOS and Storage manager updates...

[Manel]

Guma, I didn't bother to read it at the time but man, there sure are a lot of open issues. A lot more open issue than the fixed ones. Since it's Intel, I guess most of them will keep unsolved, or maybe not.
New Marvell v1.2.0.7100 RAID drivers.

[BoneTrail]

Anybody knows if are available Win 7 x64's Audio Driver for the DX48BT2 motherboard?

Congratulations for this great forum and nice thread that refers The DX38BT and DX48BT2 Motherboards.

Thanks a lot.

[Manel]

Hey BT, welcome. Cool name by the way!! :-)
If you have the time and patiente to read through the thread you'll find usefull info here.
Audio drivers have been somewhat of a slow come by, updates are very rare, at least Intel won't update them often. If you read through the readme files though there are driver versions we never get to see. Typical for Intel I guess.
They have most drivers for 7 but guess audio is still on hold, maybe you can try the Vista ones, usually they work fine.

[BoneTrail]

Thank you for you comment Manel.
Then I try to install the Vista's drivers and sorry because I didn't find out information here in the thread before of my question's post.
I hope that Intel's developers finishes quickly all full drivers to Windows 7.

Regards.
Thanks a lot.

[Manel]

BT, did it work with the Vista drivers?
New Intel LAN drivers v14.4, we didn't even get to see the v14.3 though.

[Manel]

BT, the audio drivers are not developed by Intel, IDT provides them to OEMs. But Intel doesn't post them that often though I guess, the readme mentions lots of intermediate releases we never get to see.

[Sean-E-Boy]

Its also possible that IDT just keeps real good records of their internal beta or pre-beta builds and includes those notes in the alpha release notes so that we know what other issues have been addressed prior to a released package.

[Manel]

Sean
If you read the release notes you'll see (if I recall correctly) that some of the intermediate releases that were not released by Intel are in fact WHQL'ed which means these were final builds with MS Labs' certification. Those had to be out for someone eventually.
Anyway, maybe Intel found that the changes wouldn't be significant or even address issues with the codecs in Intel boards.

[down8]

Does anyone have the DX38BT with Q9650?

For processor I have "Unknown Device". Is this normal?

I am getting the same problem with my new Q9550.

"Unknown device" in Device Manager, and "Genuine Intel, Supports 64-bit" in the BIOS (v2000). Should I drop to a different BIOS? 1902 or 1997 or something else?

I am also getting intermittent lockups while in the BIOS, and the "thermal margin" in Hardware Monitoring shows 0*C.

My goal is simply 8.5x400 w/DDR3-1600. I have an HX620 & both the CPU & X38 are under water. I am running these G.Skills, and don't mind dropping to 2x2B if necessary. My VID doesn't show up in CPU-Z, but shows like 1.1v-1.2v in BIOS - as you know, next step is 1.28v.

EDIT:
I tried to roll back to 1997 & it froze. When I pulled the plug, it was still 2000. Now my VID in CPU-Z moves between 1.050v, 1.113v & 1.175v depending on load/multi. But, device mgr still shows unknown device - but 'My Computer' properties shows Q9550 & so does BIOS - strange.

Side note: does anyone know what size threads are used on the Swiftech MCR120-FK? I have one I'd like to add to my loop, but need to replace the 1/2" OD push-connex with 1/2" barbs.

-bZj

[BoneTrail]

BT, did it work with the Vista drivers?
New Intel LAN drivers v14.4, we didn't even get to see the v14.3 though.

Hello Manel, thanks for your interest and your replies.
The Vista drivers works fine via SPDIF output with a Digital cable, but when I try record audio with a microphone, I had problems with thumbs over the music.

BT, the audio drivers are not developed by Intel, IDT provides them to OEMs. But Intel doesn't post them that often though I guess, the readme mentions lots of intermediate releases we never get to see.

I contacted to Intel and I asked them about the situation with Official Audio drivers and they answered me that the developers are working on it and that coming soon the audio drivers for Windows 7 will be done.

Regards.

[Manel]

Hi down8, long time.
Have you tried updating to the latest INF, maybe those will take care of the Unknown Device. Did it only appear when you switched to the new proc? Odd.
In HW monitor, maybe you have the processor too cool since you're on water. Maybe the temp measuring range doesn't reach that low and it shows 0degC when out of range. I believe I have the spec sheet for the HW monitor chip, I'll check. No, temps are within 0..127degC, guess you don't have below 0 temps.

BT, are you sure the problem is not with your mic? It could be the drivers yes but did you try another mic or didn't it happen on Vista?
Intel's answer is always the same, it will take long I guess. Between IDT releasing them and then Intel testing internally and releasing to the public, well...