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    propus is already out?

    I didn't know it was out yet lol

    AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103706

    At $125.99 and 95W it's not as appealing at all as I had expected Propus to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom128 View Post
    I didn't know it was out yet lol

    AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103706

    At $125.99 and 95W it's not as appealing at all as I had expected Propus to be...
    It's still not Propus core but L3 disabled Deneb.That's why the TDP is rated at 95W,although i honestly doubt that the CPU will draw even 65W under full load fp heavy test.

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    I'd say go get it. at $125 it is a cheap quad.you maybe lucky enough to unlock disabled L3 Cache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    It's still not Propus core but L3 disabled Deneb.That's why the TDP is rated at 95W,although i honestly doubt that the CPU will draw even 65W under full load fp heavy test.
    It will be mixed (Propus & Deneb with disabled L3)



    The TDP won't be 65W. If the TDP would be 65W then the AMD should mark all of these CPUs as energy efficient ("e" letter). I think that this is the reason why the AMD put all non 45W Propus to the 95W class. Simple marketing.
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    I always thought Propus was Deneb with no L3? When did that change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    I always thought Propus was Deneb with no L3? When did that change?
    It has never changed but the AMD uses some defective (or not defective) Deneb chips as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EniGmA1987 View Post
    I always thought Propus was Deneb with no L3? When did that change?
    Maybe they are at their full capacity and can't make enough Propus so they just turned some defective Denebs into Athlon II X4.
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    Yeah I already spoke about this before:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...04#post3983404

    Basically we will have Denebs with L3 disabled at first.Then in Q4 Propus will pop up and become a basis for Athlon II X4.

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    How well do these Athlon II x4's overclock? I can't find much information about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
    How well do these Athlon II x4's overclock? I can't find much information about them.
    Those based on Deneb won't show any difference whatsoever really dissappointed in AMD.

    Going to wait for the "real" Propus to come...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartidiot89 View Post
    Those based on Deneb won't show any difference whatsoever really dissappointed in AMD.

    Going to wait for the "real" Propus to come...
    Can you read? Please see above. The "real" Propus has already reached the markets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auCRibrC5jE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    Can you read? Please see above. The "real" Propus has already reached the markets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auCRibrC5jE
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    No, it's a single die with 4 cores (like Deneb) but with no L3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasis View Post
    2x athlon 2 glued together?
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    I would imagine the real Propus would OC just as well as Deneb, if Regor is any indication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom128 View Post
    I didn't know it was out yet lol

    AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103706

    At $125.99 and 95W it's not as appealing at all as I had expected Propus to be...


    it is selling SGD $ 143 in Singapore

    about USD $99
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    Quote Originally Posted by haylui View Post


    it is selling SGD $ 143 in Singapore

    about USD $99
    Still not available in Hong Kong...

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    WOW... 100 bucks for a 'true' quad core

    either propus or crippled deneb will get you around 3.8-.3.9ghz with air cooling setups. if you lucky enough, maybe you could break 4ghz 24/7

    as long as new revision wont come out, dont hope for a huge leap in OCing. save for the sub-zero

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    UK.
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173368

    AMD Athlon II X4 620 2.6GHz AM3 Retail Boxed Processor
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    * £67.80ex vat
    * £77.97inc vat
    "98 in stock for next day delivery".

    They list the Phenom IIx2 550 at £74.71 including VAT.

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    I heard some store said there won't be any Athlon II x4 for sales in Hong Kong at launch date
    There were some stock but dealer "reallocate" them to Mainland China

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    It will be mixed (Propus & Deneb with disabled L3)



    The TDP won't be 65W. If the TDP would be 65W then the AMD should mark all of these CPUs as energy efficient ("e" letter). I think that this is the reason why the AMD put all non 45W Propus to the 95W class. Simple marketing.
    Hello Oliverda, could you provide a link to info on how to tell the difference between a crippled Deneb and the real Propus CPU's? I want an Athlon II X4 620 but not if it's a Deneb. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo4 View Post
    Hello Oliverda, could you provide a link to info on how to tell the difference between a crippled Deneb and the real Propus CPU's? I want an Athlon II X4 620 but not if it's a Deneb. Thanks!
    This picture shows very well the difference.

    AC = Deneb core

    AD = Propus core
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    bought one from the retail store
    It's a Propus , no unlock L3 fun
    but it works nicely as Quad

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    i am still wondering if anyone knows what cooler the propus X4 Athlon II's have. is it the Phenom II cooler or the Athlon II cooler? I would think it might come with the Phenom II cooler because of the 95W TDP but I want to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doxology83 View Post
    i am still wondering if anyone knows what cooler the propus X4 Athlon II's have. is it the Phenom II cooler or the Athlon II cooler? I would think it might come with the Phenom II cooler because of the 95W TDP but I want to make sure.
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