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    Quote Originally Posted by karbonkid View Post
    Does that mean there's going to be news of a fix for the 'T3-sits-too-far-out-front-of-case' with certain Antec and Silverstone cases?
    Think that is with all cases. I had the same issue with my Cosmos. A few new holes and it all set though.
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    The problem with hole mounting depth stems from the fact that the particulars of chassis design for the ATX specification and all the revisions that deal with optical drive mounting are very hard to find and most case companies address this by making the holes those elongated type that allow for adjustment. Anyone that has been building machines for a few years has seen optical drives that fit fine in one brand/model and need a little time with a file in another brand/model. I know for a fact that the T3 hits those front elongated holes dead center in Lian-Li cases and slightly forward of dead center in the early Chenbro models for example. It may sound like an excuse but the reality is that if we mooved the mounting location to fit one very specific case then some other design would have issues.

    If you DO think I am making an excuse the specifications for the ATX form factor can be found at the link bellow:

    http://www.formfactors.org/developer...s%5Catx2_2.pdf

    If your case uses the single hole type mounting and does not have the elongated type that allows for adjustment this is easily remedied with a $3 file in about 5 minutes and is a simple task anyone can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxGods View Post
    The problem with hole mounting depth stems from the fact that the particulars of chassis design for the ATX specification and all the revisions that deal with optical drive mounting are very hard to find and most case companies address this by making the holes those elongated type that allow for adjustment. Anyone that has been building machines for a few years has seen optical drives that fit fine in one brand/model and need a little time with a file in another brand/model. I know for a fact that the T3 hits those front elongated holes dead center in Lian-Li cases and slightly forward of dead center in the early Chenbro models for example. It may sound like an excuse but the reality is that if we mooved the mounting location to fit one very specific case then some other design would have issues.

    If you DO think I am making an excuse the specifications for the ATX form factor can be found at the link bellow:

    http://www.formfactors.org/developer...s%5Catx2_2.pdf

    If your case uses the single hole type mounting and does not have the elongated type that allows for adjustment this is easily remedied with a $3 file in about 5 minutes and is a simple task anyone can do.
    My case uses slot-in rails. I already drilled the current holes out bigger to get the screws to fit, and I'm not sure there's a recess far enough back on the rail to drill a new hole and have the screw sit flush so the rail actually slides in.

    Also, never had any problems with CD drives, hot-swap HDD arrays or even an SCSI film scanner (in this case and many others). The XSPC bayres that used the bottom set of holes instead of the top got it right in the other direction. Not calling you a liar or anything, just sayin'

    IMO, if you moved the hole about 2 'steps' towards the front, it should work for most people.. Obviously I don't have as much experience as you but if you say it currently fits dead-centre or there-abouts there on the cases you have tried, no harm moving it nearer the front end to make it fit almost everyone?

    As I said before, it's not a problem for me, actually works better in fact. If I change my mind I can always use bits of acrylic to bypass the rail system. Not suggesting you change it now, I know that's probably nigh-on-impossible for the moment, but just to bear it in mind for less mechanically-minded folks...

    EDIT: Had a look at the ATX spec., doesn't give any specifics as to drive bays (which makes sense as standardized 5.25" bays existed long, long before ATX..). Wikipedia says this info. is referred to in the EIA-741 spec., which I can't get access to. Anyway, like I said before, please don't take this the wrong way - I'm not meaning to call you a liar or discredit you or your product. I have said before and will say again that I think the T3 is a great product. I just think that £50 is just a whole new price league for a res, and for that price a lot of people will expect everything just to fall into place, with no hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karbonkid View Post
    My case uses slot-in rails. I already drilled the current holes out bigger to get the screws to fit, and I'm not sure there's a recess far enough back on the rail to drill a new hole and have the screw sit flush so the rail actually slides in.

    Also, never had any problems with CD drives, hot-swap HDD arrays or even an SCSI film scanner (in this case and many others). The XSPC bayres that used the bottom set of holes instead of the top got it right in the other direction. Not calling you a liar or anything, just sayin'

    IMO, if you moved the hole about 2 'steps' towards the front, it should work for most people.. Obviously I don't have as much experience as you but if you say it currently fits dead-centre or there-abouts there on the cases you have tried, no harm moving it nearer the front end to make it fit almost everyone?

    As I said before, it's not a problem for me, actually works better in fact. If I change my mind I can always use bits of acrylic to bypass the rail system. Not suggesting you change it now, I know that's probably nigh-on-impossible for the moment, but just to bear it in mind for less mechanically-minded folks...

    EDIT: Had a look at the ATX spec., doesn't give any specifics as to drive bays (which makes sense as standardized 5.25" bays existed long, long before ATX..). Wikipedia says this info. is referred to in the EIA-741 spec., which I can't get access to. Anyway, like I said before, please don't take this the wrong way - I'm not meaning to call you a liar or discredit you or your product. I have said before and will say again that I think the T3 is a great product. I just think that £50 is just a whole new price league for a res, and for that price a lot of people will expect everything just to fall into place, with no hassle.
    No worries =)

    The problem was sort of compounded also because in order to keep the T3 from going way too deep into the case and possibly conflicting with today's longer video cards I only went back enough to hit the first set of holes. Most users would be happy if the optical drive they are installing hits either the front or the back set, or the top or bottom set which is a luxury I could not build into the T3, again to keep it short enough with a pump on the back of it.

    Ah well, live and learn is my motto for the day =)

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