Can anyone rate the primochill Typhoon III?

[Waterlogged]

I agree with UT. Who would listen to arseclowns who drive away MM? Of what value is the MMembers Only jacket then? What kind of idiot says they will test and review this product that they thinks sucks even before laying hands on it? Then they whine about shills when their leader comes up with a business plan predicates on shilling? There is Anton of Koolaid being consumed and it is not at XS. The only problem here is the admin and mods are too over-protective and censor the people who would shed light on the roaches thus furthering the roaches' agendas which is soley to tear down XS and it's contributors. I wish someone like Kyle from [H] would handle the issue for XS. He would stomp the roach into the ground.

Hmm, I'd love to get me a good roach stompin.

[BoxGods]

Here is a problem I discovered and have not seen on the forums yet - perhaps I missed it.
I have my TIII installed on its side and am using one of the two rear ports as an inlet. The channels on either side of the ports are too close to allow the use of a compression fitting. It took some very careful work with my trusty Dremel to widen the opening.
I suppose a standard barb would fit but that is not the way I am wired.
BoxGods, perhaps this is a future mod?

Yeha, I am having a hard time visualizing what your describing also...The T3 comes with compression fittings and I use them on mine with no issue so at least in a normal configuration they fit. If you post some images of your install we can have a look.

Just for the record, i actually think the concept behind the T3 is fantastic but it was more the aesthetics that didn't agree with me but that's all down to personal taste which we all have the luxury to comment on with any product whether it be good or bad and for me it was just a bit to "busy" looking though the addition of the front aluminium bezel goes a long way to correct that in my personal opinion.

The few small functional issues i found and pointed out were just my attempt to help improve the product on further runs which again i'm glad to see most if not all are being addressed though i do understand that these things don't and can't happen over night which is totally understandable given the initial cost of the mould.

I purposely stayed away from the hype around performance running dual loop from one T3 as i decided to run dual loop from two separate units so i'm in no position to comment on those performance figures but i can say that i'm more than happy with the way mine perform running single loop though i'd have been more surprised if it hadn't performed well in that respect given its basically a D5 running a multiple block loop which shouldn't prove too hard a task.

For me its the idea of having a pump / res combo that sits tight in a couple of dual bays and eliminates a lot of hose clutter which allows for a nice clean set-up plus the fact i found them easy to set up and bleed also which gets my vote though i do understand its not everyone's idea of fun, flipping their case onto its back to fill though i had no problem with that at all.

Its all about options and the T3 certainly adds a new dimension to our ever expanding hobby so i'm all for that and humbled that Brian gave me the opportunity to try them out and in no way was i trying to discredit the concept but more so adding a few suggestions for the betterment and progression of the product which we all benefit from in the long run.

Like I said...^^^ a gentleman with some class. I did take most of your comments to task as well. We have investigated the side notch and modifying the molds and it is just to extensive a change, would cost less to start over so for now it will just be sans the notch. I AM adding several cases to my testing collection though to prevent these kinds of things in the future...and keeping them in a stock configuration (not tossing the ez mount rails etc)

While you're at it. Would you mind asking if they can do bright yellow? Not gold but yellow. My case has a black/yellow theme. Black will work but yellow would be, well, just awsesome.

It seems you and I are the only fans of a true yellow lol. I will see what I can do.

Oh Geno that silly fella. He sure is a swell guy by golly

We talked about drunken campfire (DB is on a camping trip somewhere in the wilds of Oregon) posts from your iphone DB remember?

[karbonkid]

I AM adding several cases to my testing collection though to prevent these kinds of things in the future...and keeping them in a stock configuration (not tossing the ez mount rails etc)

Does that mean there's going to be news of a fix for the 'T3-sits-too-far-out-front-of-case' with certain Antec and Silverstone cases?

Also, I've noticed my T3 has a couple of bubbles from the casting process, on the bottom lip section of the front. They look like 2 little white balls inside the acrylic, only about 1mm in width but still clearly visible. Could you advise whether it's worth RMAing for this, or is it a common issue?

[millertime359]

Does that mean there's going to be news of a fix for the 'T3-sits-too-far-out-front-of-case' with certain Antec and Silverstone cases?

Think that is with all cases. I had the same issue with my Cosmos. A few new holes and it all set though.

[BoxGods]

The problem with hole mounting depth stems from the fact that the particulars of chassis design for the ATX specification and all the revisions that deal with optical drive mounting are very hard to find and most case companies address this by making the holes those elongated type that allow for adjustment. Anyone that has been building machines for a few years has seen optical drives that fit fine in one brand/model and need a little time with a file in another brand/model. I know for a fact that the T3 hits those front elongated holes dead center in Lian-Li cases and slightly forward of dead center in the early Chenbro models for example. It may sound like an excuse but the reality is that if we mooved the mounting location to fit one very specific case then some other design would have issues.

If you DO think I am making an excuse the specifications for the ATX form factor can be found at the link bellow:

http://www.formfactors.org/developer...s%5Catx2_2.pdf

If your case uses the single hole type mounting and does not have the elongated type that allows for adjustment this is easily remedied with a $3 file in about 5 minutes and is a simple task anyone can do.

[karbonkid]

The problem with hole mounting depth stems from the fact that the particulars of chassis design for the ATX specification and all the revisions that deal with optical drive mounting are very hard to find and most case companies address this by making the holes those elongated type that allow for adjustment. Anyone that has been building machines for a few years has seen optical drives that fit fine in one brand/model and need a little time with a file in another brand/model. I know for a fact that the T3 hits those front elongated holes dead center in Lian-Li cases and slightly forward of dead center in the early Chenbro models for example. It may sound like an excuse but the reality is that if we mooved the mounting location to fit one very specific case then some other design would have issues.

If you DO think I am making an excuse the specifications for the ATX form factor can be found at the link bellow:

http://www.formfactors.org/developer...s%5Catx2_2.pdf

If your case uses the single hole type mounting and does not have the elongated type that allows for adjustment this is easily remedied with a $3 file in about 5 minutes and is a simple task anyone can do.

My case uses slot-in rails. I already drilled the current holes out bigger to get the screws to fit, and I'm not sure there's a recess far enough back on the rail to drill a new hole and have the screw sit flush so the rail actually slides in.

Also, never had any problems with CD drives, hot-swap HDD arrays or even an SCSI film scanner (in this case and many others). The XSPC bayres that used the bottom set of holes instead of the top got it right in the other direction. Not calling you a liar or anything, just sayin'

IMO, if you moved the hole about 2 'steps' towards the front, it should work for most people.. Obviously I don't have as much experience as you but if you say it currently fits dead-centre or there-abouts there on the cases you have tried, no harm moving it nearer the front end to make it fit almost everyone?

As I said before, it's not a problem for me, actually works better in fact. If I change my mind I can always use bits of acrylic to bypass the rail system. Not suggesting you change it now, I know that's probably nigh-on-impossible for the moment, but just to bear it in mind for less mechanically-minded folks...

EDIT: Had a look at the ATX spec., doesn't give any specifics as to drive bays (which makes sense as standardized 5.25" bays existed long, long before ATX..). Wikipedia says this info. is referred to in the EIA-741 spec., which I can't get access to. Anyway, like I said before, please don't take this the wrong way - I'm not meaning to call you a liar or discredit you or your product. I have said before and will say again that I think the T3 is a great product. I just think that £50 is just a whole new price league for a res, and for that price a lot of people will expect everything just to fall into place, with no hassle.

[BoxGods]

My case uses slot-in rails. I already drilled the current holes out bigger to get the screws to fit, and I'm not sure there's a recess far enough back on the rail to drill a new hole and have the screw sit flush so the rail actually slides in.

Also, never had any problems with CD drives, hot-swap HDD arrays or even an SCSI film scanner (in this case and many others). The XSPC bayres that used the bottom set of holes instead of the top got it right in the other direction. Not calling you a liar or anything, just sayin'

IMO, if you moved the hole about 2 'steps' towards the front, it should work for most people.. Obviously I don't have as much experience as you but if you say it currently fits dead-centre or there-abouts there on the cases you have tried, no harm moving it nearer the front end to make it fit almost everyone?

As I said before, it's not a problem for me, actually works better in fact. If I change my mind I can always use bits of acrylic to bypass the rail system. Not suggesting you change it now, I know that's probably nigh-on-impossible for the moment, but just to bear it in mind for less mechanically-minded folks...

EDIT: Had a look at the ATX spec., doesn't give any specifics as to drive bays (which makes sense as standardized 5.25" bays existed long, long before ATX..). Wikipedia says this info. is referred to in the EIA-741 spec., which I can't get access to. Anyway, like I said before, please don't take this the wrong way - I'm not meaning to call you a liar or discredit you or your product. I have said before and will say again that I think the T3 is a great product. I just think that £50 is just a whole new price league for a res, and for that price a lot of people will expect everything just to fall into place, with no hassle.

No worries =)

The problem was sort of compounded also because in order to keep the T3 from going way too deep into the case and possibly conflicting with today's longer video cards I only went back enough to hit the first set of holes. Most users would be happy if the optical drive they are installing hits either the front or the back set, or the top or bottom set which is a luxury I could not build into the T3, again to keep it short enough with a pump on the back of it.

Ah well, live and learn is my motto for the day =)