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    OCZ and Indilinx Collaborate On New Firmware

    OCZ in combination with Indilinx, for example, is poised to release new firmwares for OCZ's entire line-up of Vertex Series SSDs that performs active garbage collection while the drives are idle to restore performance to like-new condition, even on a severely "dirtied" drive.
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    OCZ in combination with Indilinx, for example, is poised to release new firmwares for OCZ's entire line-up of Vertex Series SSDs that performs active garbage collection while the drives are idle to restore performance to like-new condition, even on a severely "dirtied" drive.
    i have a few "dirtied" drives i would rather have stay that way,

    i kinda like the files on them, you know once in a while !!!

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    Nice results. I'll assume it won't negatively affect the life of the SSD, MTBF.

    They could've indicated the actual time on the "long idle" graph.
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    So wiper is not needed anymore?

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    wait, is this not the same as internal defrag that's already been released on the vertex?
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    i read this as "ocz pushes indilinx to add auto-trim"

    i doubt indilinx was interested in spending time on a project thats finished in their books
    makes sense as its a VERY important feature... if ocz can get this done then we will see notably cheaper alternatives to intels ssds which are still overpriced imo...

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    White, in FW 1.30 there is something called NAND Launderer. That end result is as presented in the review, but the algorithm is different. It works indeed, but needs many hours of idle time to do its job. I play with the SSD, benches drop to 50%, in 4-5 hours idle time, back to 100%. The new Garbage collection algorithm in this beta FW is supposed to do it's stuff while you work on the computer and would bring it back in a matter of minutes.

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    Ooohh...
    Looks like I'll have to fire up TrueImage and get the drive flashed, once this is out. But then again, I doubt I'll see any difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    i read this as "ocz pushes indilinx to add auto-trim"

    i doubt indilinx was interested in spending time on a project thats finished in their books
    makes sense as its a VERY important feature... if ocz can get this done then we will see notably cheaper alternatives to intels ssds which are still overpriced imo...
    It's kind of surprising how fast the SSD market has started focussing on the controller brand, rather than just the end-line re-badger. Even now, when I browse for SSD's on a retailer's site, the product description frequently includes the controller make.

    It may not have been high on Indilinx's priorities, but if they know what's good for them, they won't drop the ball in this market - just look at what happened to the "Jmicron" brand. Well, worse than usual, I mean.
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    Hope this works with RAID

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    Just for ocz's lineup or for all of the various spin-offs of the vertex like the torqx, falcon and M225?

    Does this do the so called 'garbage collection' through the controller or OS, as if it's through the drive itself then it should also do this while in raid, right?

    Fantastic news if so. I will replace my ageing intel drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MpG View Post
    It's kind of surprising how fast the SSD market has started focussing on the controller brand, rather than just the end-line re-badger. Even now, when I browse for SSD's on a retailer's site, the product description frequently includes the controller make.
    That is very good if you ask me as the biggest difference in SSDs IS the controller (for the things I care about). Who cares if a jMicron-based SSD can reach überhigh sequential read but sucks ass when it comes to random 4k write/read?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3NZ0 View Post
    Fantastic news if so. I will replace my ageing intel drives.
    You want to trade your X25-Es for Vertex? Would you mind giving me one? J/K My Mtron Mobi is doing fine. My next SSD will be a MLC as well though. Too bad that's where the most development is done...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtletrax View Post
    Hope this works with RAID
    I think it will... TRIM doesn't but the NAND launderer does... and with this new firmware the speed is restored even faster... very interesting stuff here as I'm about to install my 2 60GB Vertex drives next week
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    PC Perspective has more detailed review and on the last page, "Conclusion and Final Thoughts" one of the pros listed is: "Performance-over-time for RAID users (Colossus included)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz68 View Post
    PC Perspective has more detailed review and on the last page, "Conclusion and Final Thoughts" one of the pros listed is: "Performance-over-time for RAID users (Colossus included)."
    the iops tests really show off those intel drives, see page 7

    EDIT: finished reading, and page 11 is freaking awesome, its like watching your SSD evolve back to stock. they do go over alot of good points about this new firmware, and it looks like they could very well make some nice OS tools to get the most out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    the iops tests really show off those intel drives, see page 7

    EDIT: finished reading, and page 11 is freaking awesome, its like watching your SSD evolve back to stock. they do go over alot of good points about this new firmware, and it looks like they could very well make some nice OS tools to get the most out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz68 View Post
    PC Perspective has more detailed review and on the last page, "Conclusion and Final Thoughts" one of the pros listed is: "Performance-over-time for RAID users (Colossus included)."
    The question is... only internal RAID0 controllers support or any kind of arrays?

    The "auto Garbage Collection" it's an internal enhance (FW level) so it maybe works fine in a RAID structure.

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    Super Talent already posted that firmware up for updates: Firmware 1711 OCZ needs to catch up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jor3lBR View Post
    Super Talent already posted that firmware up for updates: Firmware 1711 OCZ needs to catch up!
    Nothing to catch up to. What ST has released is not the same as what's coming from OCZ. Don't know how long this will be true as the other manufacturers most likely are not going to be happy about this situation.

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    we don't have to catch up at all, ST release the FW with limited testing after Indilinx release the file...we are more thorough. ST 1711 is not the same as ours, there file does not have the GC added. Yes they will be pissed and yes OCZ have the advantage for a while

    I will release Vertex, Agility and (hopefully) EX FW Thursday to our forum, TURBO does not have an update yet so anyone trying to flash the new FW to TURBO will just slow their drives down and make it hard to back flash to TURBO....be warned
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    Thanks for the update Tony

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    Great stuff, Tony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    we don't have to catch up at all, ST release the FW with limited testing after Indilinx release the file...we are more thorough. ST 1711 is not the same as ours, there file does not have the GC added. Yes they will be pissed and yes OCZ have the advantage for a while

    I will release Vertex, Agility and (hopefully) EX FW Thursday to our forum, TURBO does not have an update yet so anyone trying to flash the new FW to TURBO will just slow their drives down and make it hard to back flash to TURBO....be warned
    Is it thursday yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praz View Post
    Nothing to catch up to. What ST has released is not the same as what's coming from OCZ. Don't know how long this will be true as the other manufacturers most likely are not going to be happy about this situation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    we don't have to catch up at all, ST release the FW with limited testing after Indilinx release the file...we are more thorough. ST 1711 is not the same as ours, there file does not have the GC added. Yes they will be pissed and yes OCZ have the advantage for a while

    I will release Vertex, Agility and (hopefully) EX FW Thursday to our forum, TURBO does not have an update yet so anyone trying to flash the new FW to TURBO will just slow their drives down and make it hard to back flash to TURBO....be warned
    Yeah I saw that later on. This should be called ocz_1711 to avoid confusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz68 View Post
    PC Perspective has more detailed review and on the last page, "Conclusion and Final Thoughts" one of the pros listed is: "Performance-over-time for RAID users (Colossus included)."
    Pretty impressive, once trim becomes available i'd probably consider getting one of these now, but i'm a x25 nuthugger so there would have to be a big price difference to sway me.
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