Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[Jor3lBR]

thanks for your help!
i just made mistake and mistake and mistake, the vid is 1.2125

i am thinking of the temp problem too, core get 8x~90 and motherboard get 9x degree lol, although the room temp is 32 but i really dont know what the hell is going on , thinking to buy a ek supreme lt waterblock, the motherboard temp seems to follow the core temp? i just see it raise and drop with my cpu

forget the ibt a moment, would temperature cause a fatal error : final results was XXXXXX, expected XXXXXXX in prime95?

For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.

[andressergio]

For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.

Correct Jor in my case applies perfect if CPU sensor (not cores) hits from 75 to 77C (meaning cores on 67 to 71) and stays mostly on that temps, tests will fail 99% of the times. If CPU sensor keeps under 75C and some times hit more, but mostly on 69 to 73C tests will run perfect.

Cheers
Sergio

[derek0309hk]

For the Q9650 exhaustive testing has demonstrated that any temps above 65oC WILL cause fatal errors in Prime95 or IBT, therefore is useless to use those programs to test stability if you can't keep the CPU cooler then that.

This may not apply to ALL the Q9650 but I would say at least 75% of them.

omg.. what can i do then?

i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn

[KRich]

omg.. what can i do then?

i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn

You've got a low VID chip which can tend to run hotter than high VID. As you've also got high ambient temperatures, there is only so much that water cooling can do.

Wish you lots of luck and hope some fine tuning will help you - Perhaps post in the Liquid Cooling forum to see if you can get some tips on any improvements that could be made with your setup?

[Hoss331]

where are you guys getting the C batches from?has anyone gotten
a C batch from newegg?im thinking of getting a quad again,but i might
just get a X3380 @3.16.

I dont think there going to end up releasing the 3380 so if you want one youll need to find an es.

omg.. what can i do then?

i dont know where is the problem in my wc system

at stock speed and default setting, the cpu wont get over 50 degree under water at full load, and usually get 35 at idle

i dont know why when i raise it to above 4ghz and above 1.3v, the temp at full load go crazy, at idle is about 45~55 depends on fsb and voltage, but at full load just go 69, 7x, 8x, and even 90, damn

Its not necessarily a problem with your water setup but more so with your ambient temps being 30C+. Water setups can pull alot of heat out but with ambients like that they can only do so much. IBT is one of the hottest running tests so you should probably forget about using it until you get your cooling under control.

[derek0309hk]

I dont think there going to end up releasing the 3380 so if you want one youll need to find an es.




Its not necessarily a problem with your water setup but more so with your ambient temps being 30C+. Water setups can pull alot of heat out but with ambients like that they can only do so much. IBT is one of the hottest running tests so you should probably forget about using it until you get your cooling under control.

but even i use prime95 w/o ac , still get 75 ~ 79 most likely

w/ ac, still slightly above 70, which may lead to the fatal error?

i really want to get 4.4 for 24/7 use... damn , why it is so hot in this city

[OC Nub]

but even i use prime95 w/o ac , still get 75 ~ 79 most likely

w/ ac, still slightly above 70, which may lead to the fatal error?

i really want to get 4.4 for 24/7 use... damn , why it is so hot in this city

Maybe try some HyperPi, SuperPi, Folding, or some other programs to test stability as Jor suggested. I doubt getting a different water block will help by much. The air blowing through my rad when Priming is 16c (tested using a dmm), with 30c+ambient there is no way I could Prime. If you can manage to Prime at 70-75c with your high ambient room temps I would say your water cooling is doing a good job.

[TooFastForYa]

Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
Thanks

[derek0309hk]

Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
Thanks

may i know your room temp

looks like i have a 90% similar wc system to yours, except the block

[Hoss331]

Having a hard time getting stable at 489x9. Anyone have any suggestions? Here are my current settings. Boots fine, but blue screens at soon as I start prime. System specs in sig.
Thanks

If you have 9600s, are you wanting to run them at cas 4 1:1, and have you checked if thats even stable for your ram? My board undervolts vdimm, so 1.94 bios is really 1.90, yours may not and only need to be 1.90 bios.

Start with this,

******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
 
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9        ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0    ]
CPU Frequency 4.4GHz............................[ 489 x 9.0]
 
******Clock Chip Control******
 
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 489      ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
 
******Advanced Clock Control******
 
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv   ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ] or 50ps
 
******DRAM Performance Control******
 
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333      ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B    ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1174     ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ]
 
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5       ]
tRCD............................................[ 5       ]
tRP.............................................[ 5       ]
tRAS............................................[ 15      ]
 
******Advanced Timing Control******
 
tRRD[3].........................................[ 3       ] you settings may be different
tWTR[3].........................................[ 3       ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ 6       ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ 54      ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ 3       ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T      ]
 
******Channel A Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Timing Settings******     
 
Static tRead Value        [ 8 ] ................[ 8       ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto    ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto    ]
 
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto    ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto    ]
 
******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
 
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200    ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto    ]
 
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto    ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto    ]
 
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
 
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore         [ 1.15    ]...................[ 1.4125  ]
CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.300   ]
CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.500   ]
CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.848   ]
 
MCH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.360   ]
MCH Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.863   ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
ICH I/O           [ 1.500   ]...................[ 1.500   ]
ICH Core          [ 1.100   ]...................[ 1.100   ]
 
DRAM Voltage      [ 1.800   ]...................[ 1.800   ]
DRAM Termination  [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
Channel A Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto    ]
Channel B Ref     [ 0.900   ]...................[ auto   ]

******Advanced BIOS Features******
 
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

Mine idle at 25C, third core gets stuck at 34.

[derek0309hk]

Maybe try some HyperPi, SuperPi, Folding, or some other programs to test stability as Jor suggested. I doubt getting a different water block will help by much. The air blowing through my rad when Priming is 16c (tested using a dmm), with 30c+ambient there is no way I could Prime. If you can manage to Prime at 70-75c with your high ambient room temps I would say your water cooling is doing a good job.

i will report more when i change the block, thanks for your help, really

[OC Nub]

i will report more when i change the block, thanks for your help, really

Best of luck.