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So you think it is the non-ECC ram that is stalling you with both CPUs?
Does ntune give you full adjustment of the processor like vcore/vnb? Can you adjust the memory divider in BIOS? HTT divider? I'm really curious how high that dual-socket board will be able to clock up the HTT, most AM3 boards can do up to 350HTT, 272HTT on that server board would be awesome for a solid 3GHz.
There's some potential I would imagine. It is even an HT3 capable board, and that's fairly new for Socket F.
For clarification, I'm using ECC registered DDR2-800 memory already. I just need more of it before I can confirm if the board is bad or the second CPU is a memory issue. The manual states that with 2 CPUs, two DIMMs are required on CPU1. I only have two DIMMs total right now--I thought I could use 1 DIMM on each (minimum required to run in case it didn't work with unregistered, non-ECC memory that I wanted to test against it). However, it may be the case that 2 DIMMs are required on CPU1 -and- memory must be present on CPU2 before it will initialize. As such, I need more memory before I can test that theory.
Cinebench was ran on a very much not fresh install of Windows Server 2008 x64 with Arma II open in the background. At 2500MHz though, it's still not a bad score. Some tweaking is still required, however, since at 2200MHz I scored virtually the same.
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Hey, Particle been really sick for past few weeks and not on the forum.
See you have the board and had problems flashing. You need to put a the Boot Block Jumper in reverse position in order to Flash Bios on the Board
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oh man i wonder how well she'll scale on 2 socket with cinebench!!
also, does it REQUIRE ecc ram modules?
i think u might be able to get away with using ddr2 regular modules becuz it's not a chipset limitation it's more of the imc.
mobo: strix b350f
gpu: rx580 1366/2000
cpu: ryzen 1700 @ 3.8ghz
ram: 32 gb gskill 2400 @ 3000
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hdd's: samsung 500gb ssd 1tb & 3tb hdd
Originally Posted by Particle
Games b4 benchmarks
Damn good score any ways. I bet you have arma 2 open, tf2 , bf2, fear2 and hl2 open all at same time to alt tab with no lag between them all
Erm, but I guess you would need more memory for that.
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Glad to see you around again, Esau. I was wondering where you were in all of this.Hey, Particle been really sick for past few weeks and not on the forum.
See you have the board and had problems flashing. You need to put a the Boot Block Jumper in reverse position in order to Flash Bios on the Board
Ninja Edit: Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it now. You mean like rotate the jumper.
I don't think ECC is strictly required--you can turn off all ECC options in the BIOS. However, I'm pretty sure that registered memory is required. The two aren't the same thing. You can have ECC memory that is unregistered or registered memory that isn't ECC as well as ECC + registered. Normal desktop memory is typically non-ECC and unregistered. Some exotic desktop systems and Macs have used ECC unregistered.
The "registered" thing indicates that there's an extra chip onboard that serves as a buffer. It's either for TX or RX (only one) but I don't remember which. That's as opposed to those FB-DIMMs you've probably heard about. They buffer in both directions. A system requiring ECC or non-ECC, registered memory won't work with desktop memory. Besides, I tested it.
Thanks. heh I was pretty curious to see how well Arma II would hit all the cores. It is one of the best-threaded games I've ever seen in my life. At 3.5GHz on my Phenom II X4 940, it would go back and forth between about 50% and 90%. Most of the time it was in the 60s and low-to-mid 70s, but that's still damn impressive.
Damn good score any ways. I bet you have arma 2 open, tf2 , bf2, fear2 and hl2 open all at same time to alt tab with no lag between them all
Erm, but I guess you would need more memory for that.
Coincidentally, I received about the same framerate at 6x2500 with a single Radeon 3870 as I do on my "gaming" desktop at 4x3500 with dual Radeon 4850s when everything was maxed out. Slightly lower resolution (1600x1200 versus 1920x1200).
Last edited by Particle; 07-06-2009 at 01:12 PM.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
i forgot about the whole registered unregistered thing do'h!!
well i hope you get 'er running good
mobo: strix b350f
gpu: rx580 1366/2000
cpu: ryzen 1700 @ 3.8ghz
ram: 32 gb gskill 2400 @ 3000
psu: coarsair 1kw
hdd's: samsung 500gb ssd 1tb & 3tb hdd
Looking forward to 11x270
Perkam
I've been stalking this thread since you started talking dual socket.
I hope you get the extra ram soon!
I want to see how this baby rocks and clocks!
Also seems very very good that you run that well on the system with only a single 3870.
Can't wait to see what it does with 12x2500 or possibly 12x3000
Now that's classy. The whole system only pulls 109W idle, including PSU losses, GPU, and everything.
185-190W in 3DMark06 demo mode
165W in Cinebench 10 x64
Last edited by Particle; 07-06-2009 at 07:40 PM.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
For the love of Bob, what have I done?
Sidenote: This will be multi-stage. Once everything is here I'll be able to see the BIOS chip personally and can then order a new one from BIOSMAN--the newest version should let the Istanbul chips work. At that time I'll also get to see if the board comes with mounting brackets or not. If not, I'll have to order those at the same time. They will enable me to use AM2 heatsinks.
I need some serious back pattage here to feel good about myself.
YOUR MY HERO!!!
You serious?
That's impressive.
What PSU are you using also?
All 12 cores at fulload?
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CPU: Phenom II X4 955BE
Clock: 4200MHz 1.4375v
Memory: Dominator GT 2x2GB 1600MHz 6-6-6-20 1.65v
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
GPU: HD 5770
Guys.. ONE CPU. Read etc.
Still nice particle, those new chips certainly aren't power hogs
My Gainsy takes 95W idle (with onboard vga) and 275W BOINC with 16 threads running, for comparison.
Yes, just one CPU so far. Default vCore on these things is apparently 1.225V. It's still pretty cool considering that's for six cores and a Radeon 3870. It's hard to find exact numbers, but it looks like the idle power of that GPU is supposed to be somewhere between 15 and 25W. It's pretty cool though when idle (with PowerNow turned off even), your CPU's heatsink is cold/room temperature. BIOS has to be off a little bit since it says exactly room temp and there have to be some losses in there (core temp of 66F in a 66F room? nah). No program seems to read it right either, and they're usually even more off than the BIOS since CoreTemp and the like says my CPU is forming ice. I had a box cooler on it for a while there, but last night I swapped it for a Freezer 64 Pro temporarily. The eventual plan is to use a Xigmatek HDT-1283 and a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer if they both end up fitting.
In other news, last night (technically this morning) I had a 12:45 AM delivery of six 1GB ECC/reg DDR2-400 memory. Sure, it's slower than crud, but it should let me test the CPU2 theory after work.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I hope your lunch is before I will need to go asleep
I really want to see some scaling of the software with core count. We can also run some clock for clock, but not core for cores comparisons.
Good luck and let the force will be with you!
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we want results now, lunch can wait!
Let him eat lunch... Don't want him tired or hungry and kill the thing.
Now if you could get 12 cores at 3ghz and 4 4890s it might be able to run crysis
Also I would like to see screen shot of arma 2 and how much its using on cores.
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Hmm. Tried briefly after lunch as I had a bit of spare time. It didn't POST. I'll verify the DIMMs all on CPU1 after work, but ultimately I think it's going to come down to a bad motherboard.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Ok, time to get a refund for this board. I'll order a new one and take a loss so there isn't a two month RMA delay.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
so what motherboard now? It seems like amd is being slow about releasing a server chipset.
Motherboard: GigaByte P67UD4 f6 | CPU: Intel 2500k 4.5ghz 1.26v | Memory: GSkill 2x4gb @ 1600mhz 1.34v | PSU: SeaSonic X650 Gold 650W | Video: AMD 6970 Koolance water block 880c/1450mem 1.035v | HDD: WD 640gb cavier black: VelociRaptor 300gb: Intel x-25 g2 80gb | Sound: Asus xonar D1 | OS: W7 64bit
I'll just get another of the one I already have. It's unlikely that a brand new one is also defective. If it -still- doesn't work, I'd blame my CPU(s) for a dead HT link. Of course, I have no real way to test that.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Oh noes.. sorry to hear that particle.
Best of luck with the new motherboard.
Alright, it's official. Refund RMA approved. I'll ship it off tomorrow. In the mean time, I've already placed an order for a brand new H8DAE-2 with rush processing and next day shipping. It should be here Thursday if things go well. This is getting expensive, but I guess ultimately it's still not that bad. Newegg wants $35 to refund the defective board. Bleh!
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
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