Asus P6T Deluxe Discussion Thread

[unclewebb]

Awesome that the throttling problem has been resolved. Hoping for a similar BIOS to the P6T "Vanilla" motherboard aswell.

Hoping won't get it done. I'd start by contacting the Asus rep here on XS and let him know that this is a problem for you.

illuminatiASUS

The modded bios that misreports the watts is a very simple way to fix this issue. By tricking what the CPU reports for power consumption, it doesn't trigger the turbo throttling anymore. A fix like this doesn't take a lot of additional programming so if enough users request it then maybe it will get done.

Also looking at the Asus site, I find no mention of this bios either.

0007 is a special bios for the Xtreme guys at XS. Most regular users don't need this but a few guys here sure do.

You're welcome glide 1. You can use Everest to report CPU watts. With bios 0007, it seems to report about 1/4 as much as it should be reporting.

[xpatar]

I just got a pm from illuminatiASUS
Here is the message:
"Originally Posted by illuminatiASUS
Hello

Currently we have released a test bios to resolve this issues on the standard P6T deluxe and are working on seeing if we will release any additonall bios for the P6T series for this issue. Due to is being something that will not be an offical bios release we have to factor in multiple aspects. Hopefully though we will release an update build for all P6T boards ( the rampage boards are not affected due to having a superior desing and will have it the feature in an released bios build ). Please enjoy the rest of your day."

Great news, just great news!!!!!

[enkie]

Awsome that the throttling problem has been resolved. Hoping for a similar BIOS to the P6T "Vanilla" motherboard aswell.

And p6t6 ws revo

[NaeKuh]

I'm willing to donate $30 to anyone willing(or know how) to hack the POS bios to disable this throttling feature!

which is why i gave up on my P6T.

I have the best board block with mosfet block on it, and now its only acting as a HTPC while a classy is on my main. :P

But its nice to hear the throttling problem is resolved.

I have it under H20 so temps aren't a concern. And yeah, I usually keep HT off because it serves absolutely no purpose in the games I play. I was thinking along the same lines as you all along but I just wanted to solicit some input. In my world, more money spent on PC equals less fellatio from wife.

you should see what voltage u need for both HT ON and leave it there.
Just disable HT when you dont need it without having to mess with voltages.
If your running a D0 you'll notice its not much of a vcore and Vtt tweek for HT ON.

[The Watcher]

Yes this 0007 bios work great.....

well maybe someone lost $30

[ben805]

LOL

If the asus tech or his engineer would accept my $30 as I promised to donate to whomever can hack the BIOS....I would gladly pay it, that's a small price to pay to get rid of this problem.

[devsk]

LOL

If the asus tech or his engineer would accept my $30 as I promised to donate to whomever can hack the BIOS....I would gladly pay it, that's a small price to pay to get rid of this problem.

Hey Ben, Have you measured the voltages with a DMM to see if the actual voltages passed to the chip are actually the same as what is claimed in the BIOS and by Windows utilities. I don't remember if Asus P6T has voltage probe points on board. I was measuring my voltages with DMM on the EVGA X58 board and what I found was astonishing. Whatever was being shown by BIOS and Eleet/HWmonitor was way higher than what was being passed to the chip e.g. for my 4.32Ghz clock under load, vcore is shown as 1.41 but only 1.376 is being passed, vtt is shown to be 1.40 but only 1.24 () is being passed, DDR is being shown as 1.71 but only 1.63 is being passed. I think this was the reason why you gave up on the evga board real quick. It wasn't really passing enough voltages (VTT particularly, 160mV discrepancy is unforgivable and VTT is the most important voltage in i7 world) although it was showing it was passing high voltages.

I would like to see those DMM numbers for your 4.4Ghz clock if you can get them from Asus P6T V2. Possible?

PS: 4.32 is the clock where I am still under Intel's spec limits for factory (1.35 VTT and 1.375 vcore). That's an astonishing thought! i7 rules! 920 D0 even more!

[ben805]

there isn't any probe points on the P6T Deluxe like those on EVGA so I'm not sure where to measure the voltage with DMM. When I had the EVGA x58 SLi I have tried many different combination of setting, at one point I was pushing the vcore up to 1.55v (within Intel's safty range) and vtt to 1.60v, vdimm I had it between 1.65~1.70v in BIOS, dang thing just keep crashing and BSOD no matter what, after couple days of frustration I returned it.

[Gre4ka]

nice! )
i have tried this bios and it works fine on my deluxe (have to change mobo to rampage - tired of Turbo throttling and xeon 3520 arrived - 20x is toooo small for it =))

but i noticed 1 problem. on 1504-1606 official - there is no problem with "cold boot" - i power on my system and it boots and works fine, but with 0007 - i need to press reset after 2-3sec of power on, because monitor shows nothing - just black screen. i remember that such problem was in first old bioses, later it was fixed.

and i have a question - is it really to make such bios (with turbo throttling FIX) for P6T WS mobo? Deluxe and WS are just identical, but i like WS more =)

some offtopik:
is EVGA Classified and Rampage mobo's really have an ability to set CPU on higher BCLK's than Deluxe mobo can? or it always fully depends of CPU? and what about dealing with memory and high speeds with tight timings? such a 2000-7-8-7 and so on? should the deluxe work fine if CPU uncore part "can" or this is unique to current "top" mobos such as classified?
i tried many 920 С0 and 2 940 C0 on Deluxe - none of them can hanlde even 2000-9-9-9 (have a HCF0 kit from kingston) - even on 1.65 on QPI/DRAM. may be it's CPU uncore limitation... but i think 1 of 5 tested CPU should work at 2000, but in my case - no.

sorry for my bad english =)

[hobs]

Hi, All!
What MoBo is better for taking for overclocking?

[Truckchase!]

Another successful P6T Deluxe V2 crossflash to the V1 0007... thank you very much for pioneering this guys. I'm loving this BIOS, not only did it fix the throttle, but it also fixed my S3 resume issue! I'm saving $50 bux a month just by putting my computer to sleep when I'm not using it.

Still no fix for the G15 keyboard issue though; (not recognizing on boot) it turns out it is a result of having other USB devices connected that don't agree with the G15 or something... I can fix it by putting the USB to 12mbs, but I'd rather just have a PS2 keyboard hooked up as well.

Anyhow, thanks guys!

[xpatar]

I just crossflashed successfully from 0504 V2 to 0007 V1.
Turbo throttling has been resolved and everything is working like a charm.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=107

[ben805]

VERY NICE, that made 3 of us who crossflashed successfully without any problem. Maybe someday Asus would release the V2 version, but for now I'm very happy with the 0007 as well, it's rock solid!

[xpatar]

VERY NICE, that made 3 of us who crossflashed successfully without any problem. Maybe someday Asus would release the V2 version, but for now I'm very happy with the 0007 as well, it's rock solid!

Just as you said. 0007 is rock solid and according to illuminatiASUS there is a possibility that we could see a bios version for the V2 board.

[Kevin Archibald]

Hi,

My co-worker got a P6T Deluxe V2, 920 (non-D stepping, afaik), and 3 x 2GB of OCZ DDR3 1600Mhz memory (OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X1600LV6GK). He says he can't get this combo to post so far. I had him check the cpu socket pins and make sure the CPU was in the right way, and as far I know everything's fine.

I suspect the problem is the memory, since that seems to be a common problem with the Core i7 systems. I read in one place that the shipping BIOS had trouble with more than 3GB of memory (until the BIOS is updated). So I had him try single sticks in the orange slot closest to the CPU socket. He said he had no luck. I got the Qualified Vendor List from the Asus site for this motherboard, and this memory is not listed, but it's from Feb 2009.

Has anyone had any luck with this memory on this mobo? If so, does this sound like a bad memory kit? If not, what do people recommend he get? Are there further things he should look into beyond the memory? I've seen similar issues, and the recommendation is to remove anything unneeded before doing the individual mem stick tests, like remove the sound card, video card, etc...he had his video card installed when he did the mem tests. Others mention resetting the CMOS jumper or "pull the battery" and waiting a few minutes before doing each post test.

Not much else to the system specs since he didn't get it to post. He's got the 750w PS that comes with the PS-included version of the Cosmos 1000 case. He's got a EVGA GTX285 2GB video card in the PCI-Express slot closest to the CPU socket. He's using the stock cooler for now. (He says the Noctua NH-U12P doesn't fit in the P6T due to the capacitors...I suspect he didn't get the SE1366 adaptor with his order. Anyone have this experience?)

[r1rhyder]

VERY NICE, that made 3 of us who crossflashed successfully without any problem. Maybe someday Asus would release the V2 version, but for now I'm very happy with the 0007 as well, it's rock solid!

Make that four successful crossflashes.

[Kevin Archibald]

Still no fix for the G15 keyboard issue though; (not recognizing on boot) it turns out it is a result of having other USB devices connected that don't agree with the G15 or something... I can fix it by putting the USB to 12mbs, but I'd rather just have a PS2 keyboard hooked up as well.
Anyhow, thanks guys!

Are there any other keyboard incompatibilities? I didn't know about this one (I use the Foxconn Bloodrage board myself) before I recommended my friend get the P6T Deluxe V2, and he bought the G15. He's having POST problems without the keyboard, but I'm worried he'll run into this G15 bug once he gets beyond the POST problems. So I wanted to get a head start and find other incompatible keyboards just in case. So far he doesn't have any other USB devices planned other than this keyboard though. I think he also has a Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 he could use, too, but he liked the keyboard layout/feel of the G15.

[Pipeman597]

Kevin, I have the same setup except I have D0 stepping and ATI 4850 in crossfire. The OCZ Gold memory OCZ3X1600LV6GK is XTC I see no reference to XMP with mine. All I did with my setup is set tweaker to manual, the memory in bios to 8-8-8-24 and 1.64V. I am Overclocked to 4.0 with ram at 1600. Most bios settings are auto except 1.25V cpu, 1603 ram and 200 bus speed. So without any tweaking out of the box it ran fine 100% stable. I did update bios to 504. My G15 V1 keyboard needed the full speed setting to work at bootup. I hope Asus fixes that issue as I do have some high speed devices.

[Kevin Archibald]

Kevin, I have the same setup except I have D0 stepping and ATI 4850 in crossfire. The OCZ Gold memory OCZ3X1600LV6GK is XTC I see no reference to XMP with mine. All I did with my setup is set tweaker to manual, the memory in bios to 8-8-8-24 and 1.64V. I am Overclocked to 4.0 with ram at 1600. Most bios settings are auto except 1.25V cpu, 1603 ram and 200 bus speed. So without any tweaking out of the box it ran fine 100% stable. I did update bios to 504. My G15 V1 keyboard needed the full speed setting to work at bootup. I hope Asus fixes that issue as I do have some high speed devices.

Thanks for the response.

This is the memory he got:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...OCZ3X1600LV6GK

It says "XMP Ready" and nothing about "Gold". I think you have different memory. Also, he's not getting as far as the BIOS screen to be able to change anything. The PS and fans come on, but that's about it. I was thinking bent CPU socket pins (or bad mobo for some other reason), bad CPU, incompatible/bad memory (especially with factory BIOS), and more remotely, some weirdness with the GPU. I'm trying to figure out how to easily figure out if he needs to send something back. I was thinking about putting my memory in his system to see if it would boot further. I've done web searches and it looks like other people have had no boot issues with his combination of hardware, so I want to start by ruling out bad memory.

[Pipeman597]

OCZ reports "this is essentially the OCZ GOLD set, with XMP timings and the different heatsinks. He also said (as well as their website states) it's "optimized" for Core i7". So I guess there was some changes from my Gold set but if anything should be more optimized for I7. It would be interesting to see what timings they have changed although I haven't had any issues. As far as your MB problem I doubt it is the memory. Assuming you don't have a short somewhere hard to say what to do. Substitute what ever parts you can, maybe power up outside the case. For me I just slapped it together and it worked. Easiest build I have ever done and I have done many.

[Kevin Archibald]

Kevin, I have the same setup except I have D0 stepping and ATI 4850 in crossfire. The OCZ Gold memory OCZ3X1600LV6GK is XTC I see no reference to XMP with mine. All I did with my setup is set tweaker to manual, the memory in bios to 8-8-8-24 and 1.64V. I am Overclocked to 4.0 with ram at 1600. Most bios settings are auto except 1.25V cpu, 1603 ram and 200 bus speed. So without any tweaking out of the box it ran fine 100% stable. I did update bios to 504. My G15 V1 keyboard needed the full speed setting to work at bootup. I hope Asus fixes that issue as I do have some high speed devices.

When you say the "full speed setting", how/where do you configure that?

Thx!

[Kevin Archibald]

OCZ reports "this is essentially the OCZ GOLD set, with XMP timings and the different heatsinks. He also said (as well as their website states) it's "optimized" for Core i7". So I guess there was some changes from my Gold set but if anything should be more optimized for I7. It would be interesting to see what timings they have changed although I haven't had any issues. As far as your MB problem I doubt it is the memory. Assuming you don't have a short somewhere hard to say what to do. Substitute what ever parts you can, maybe power up outside the case. For me I just slapped it together and it worked. Easiest build I have ever done and I have done many.

Yeah, I'm starting to doubt the memory too because other people are using this same combo, and when memory has been the issue it has been with one of the sticks not all three. One guy had the same combo but 12GB wouldn't boot until he got another P6T Deluxe, even though he looked at the CPU socket with a magnifying glass and didn't see any pin flaws. He was guessing there was a problem with some of the memory slots.

At this point I think my friend is so irate, impatient, and DIY-unfriendly that he's going to take the parts to a system builder to figure it out, or return it all and go to a system builder and them make it. He's blaming me for the poor parts recommendations. I recommended the P6T to him because I've had issues with the Blood Rage I have and heard nothing but good things about the P6T (as well as the 920 over my 940). Unfortunately I did let him pick out the memory without checking first to see if anyone had issues with it - I did a thorough search before I got my Mushkins. And unlike me he seems to have a turnkey expectation for DIY system builds of first-gen products.

[Truckchase!]

Are there any other keyboard incompatibilities? I didn't know about this one (I use the Foxconn Bloodrage board myself) before I recommended my friend get the P6T Deluxe V2, and he bought the G15. He's having POST problems without the keyboard, but I'm worried he'll run into this G15 bug once he gets beyond the POST problems. So I wanted to get a head start and find other incompatible keyboards just in case. So far he doesn't have any other USB devices planned other than this keyboard though. I think he also has a Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 he could use, too, but he liked the keyboard layout/feel of the G15.

I don't think so; the only one I've heard of was the G15.... there may have been one guy earlier in the thread with the same problem, but I know it's relatively rare. There are alot of people with the G15 that it works fine for. It's when the G15 is used in concert with some other device. For me it's a new USB 2.0 Hub that I got.

Here's a thread in the ASUS forums about it:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

[Kevin Archibald]

Anyone try using the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 with the P6T Deluxe and have trouble getting it to fit because of the capacitors around the CPU? I've done lots of web searches and people mention having this combo, but I want to verify whether anything special beyond using the SE1366 adapter needed to be done to fit the in CPU socket area for mounting.

So far I can't vouch that my friend has the SE1366 adapter. I thought he could run into issues clearing the RAM if the RAM had high heatsinks, but not the mobo capacitors. That makes me suspect he didn't get the adapter or he hasn't discovered it yet in his parts pile.

[icecpu]

what program use to monitor the PLL voltage and ram voltage and NB temp ??
I use everest ultimate version 5.02.1750 they don't show up
I had set PLL voltage to auto and ram 1.64 in bios just to make sure they don't overvolts