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    Particle why only 2 memory sticks? Or are those two kits of 2x1 GB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Yes, Cinebench is gonna be interesting, even tho it doesn't represent the latest developments properly...

    Here is a run I did earlier today
    This is really quality stuff Almost double of what I can do on my machine (granted that you have twice as much processors, but we all know how things are scaling up ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedjo View Post
    Particle why only 2 memory sticks? Or are those two kits of 2x1 GB?
    It is just two 2GB sticks of ECC registered DDR2-800. That provides the bare minimum required to operate should I find that there is an issue using unregistered RAM. I'll order more if I have to use ECC/Reg. If not, I have what I believe to be a full compliment of regular.
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    PICTURES

    Here they are!

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    Awesome pics particle, can't wait to see you fire it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightman View Post
    This is really quality stuff Almost double of what I can do on my machine (granted that you have twice as much processors, but we all know how things are scaling up ...)
    Thanks mate, although they still get owned badly by my Harpertowns due to lack of clockspeed...

    Anyway, "real life" performance the Gaisntowns are better even with more than 1Ghz lower frequency (max primestable on those X5450's is 4,06Ghz).

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    So is the BIOS on the mobo new enough for the hexies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utroz View Post
    So is the BIOS on the mobo new enough for the hexies?
    Not sure yet--getting ready to fire it as we speak. Even if not, this board may have an ace up its sleeve:

    Quote Originally Posted by Supermicro BIOS Flash Readme
    In the unlikely event that a Flash upgrade is interrupted catastrophically,
    the BIOS may be left in an unusable state. However, SUPERMICRO's Flash ROMs have a special BIOS Recovery procedure
    that can be performed. Recovering from this condition requires the following steps.

    A minimum of a power supply, system speaker, keyboard and a floppy drive configured as drive A
    should be attached to the motherboard. Rename the a BIOS ROM file to super.rom and insert into the floppy drive A. Press and hold the "Ctrl" and "Home" keys on your keyboard and turn on the system.
    Because of the small amount of code available in the noneraseable Flash boot block area,
    no video prompts are available to direct the procedure. In other words,
    you will see nothing on the screen.
    The procedure can be monitored by listening to the system speaker and looking at the floppy drive LED.
    When the system beeps and the floppy drive LED is lit,
    the system is copying the BIOS recovery code into the Flash device.
    As soon as the floppy drive LED goes off and the system speaker get 4 beeps, the recovery should be complete.
    Looks like it can do a "recovery mode" flash without a working CPU. All the minimum requirement items can be controlled directly from the non-programmable flash and chipset only.
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    LGA, how I love you. Too bad AMD won't adopt you for their desktops CPUs

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    Wow! Those serial numbers = AMAZING. I love the Opteron LGA package. I can't wait until the desktop socket gets that treatment.
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    Promising..."CPU Mismatch Detected"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Looks like it can do a "recovery mode" flash wanks for without a working CPU. All the minimum requirement items can be controlled directly from the non-programmable flash and chipset only.
    It's interesting you say this will work without a detected CPU - I guess boot block code runs before POST, so makes sense. Nice to know I have this option too on the K9ND. Thanks for the info

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    LGA, how I love you. Too bad AMD won't adopt you for their desktops CPUs
    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! LGA delayed my build no end - I accidentally dropped a CPU into one of my sockets from amout 20mm above and twisted a few pins beyond home repair - had to pay to send it to MSI USA and have the pins repaired, and lost about 3 months, IIRC waiting for the whole process. . I say AMD should bring back pins, especially here in the server market, where it makes sense to have the weak point on the CPU, which is likely to be rplaced more often/earlier than the mobo...

    It's not hard to bend CPU pins back into place when they bend, and that's a very rare ocurrence in itself anyway. LGA, on the other hand . I mean, how hard can it be to go from 940 pins --> 1207??

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    When I try the recovery method, it reads the first bit from the floppy and beeps twice then beeps another five times--all short. Then it appears to start over and try again and will loop as such indefinitely. Anyone know what this means?
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    Neato thread! Grats on the cool hardwarez. Can you try and boot with one cpu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    When I try the recovery method, it reads the first bit from the floppy and beeps twice then beeps another five times--all short. Then it appears to start over and try again and will loop as such indefinitely. Anyone know what this means?
    The bios recovery for that board sounds a lot like the procedure for the ami bios msi boards. Did you try to completely clear cmos before you forced the bios recovery?

    I know you have a server supermicro board but check out these instructions from the msi forum :

    http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=119375.0
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    Maybe you renamed the wrong file? Or didnt get the exact name right? Or have the wrong bios?

    Maybe there is a jumper that needs to be moved for the bios recovery to work and allow the bios to be reprogrammed without a CPU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_419 View Post
    The bios recovery for that board sounds a lot like the procedure for the ami bios msi boards. Did you try to completely clear cmos before you forced the bios recovery?

    I know you have a server supermicro board but check out these instructions from the msi forum :

    http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=119375.0
    Oh bless you! The Supermicro documentation was just WRONG. Instead of requiring the rom to be named SUPER.ROM, it had to be the (what I assume is the generic AMI default) AMIBOOT.ROM. Bingo, flash successful. Now for further playing...
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    Unfortunately, after the flash, the board appears deader than a doorknob. Won't even turn the fans now. *shrug*
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    Are you able to force flash to the original at least?
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    No, somehow it is superdead now. Even the non-rewritable part of the BIOS (the part that includes the BIOS recovery) doesn't appear to function. No power light, no CPU fan, etc. Only the chipset fan spins.

    Well that was anticlimactic.
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    Yes, I computed a CRC32 hash of the ROM on hard disk and checked the copy on the diskette. It matched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    No, somehow it is superdead now. Even the non-rewritable part of the BIOS (the part that includes the BIOS recovery) doesn't appear to function. No power light, no CPU fan, etc. Only the chipset fan spins.

    Well that was anticlimactic.
    I've been watching this thread to see your results.

    Hopefully you'll be able to bring it back to life. I have confidence in you man!

    I'm assuming you did all the generic stuff, unpluging, pulling battery, checking for shorts etc...

    That really does suck, I wanted to see what that puppy could do...
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  24. #124
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    Try running with a single processor. Whenever you're trying out a new CPU with an old Mobo, always keep an older opteron 2x00 handy. It helps with booting into the basic systems so you can update the board and then run the newer CPUs.

    Other than that, I'm guessing its the Open Box board, not the chips. Also, ty for the pics as promised

    Now we just need a close up of the ram since you have so much free time now

    Perkam

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    I think the video shows him running it on a single processor. Damn I've been looking forward to this (nothing compared to you).

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