PC Per: Hydra Chip Shows up in ELSA Remote Renderer

[Mr.BSEL]

It looks like the hydra chip wasn't vaporware after all.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=7372

[Talonman]

Looking forward to some good things out of Hydra...

[Shintai]

Quite the change from the SLI/CF "fix" and all the other wonders it could do. Maybe not vaporware, but surely hypeware.

Always fun when reality kicks in

[Smartidiot89]

Ok so when will we mortals have Lucid Hydra on our motherboards?

[turtletrax]

Ok so when will we mortals have Lucid Hydra on our motherboards?

My sources say between now, and later, although others have stated between now and your death. I leave the choosing to you

[CBONE]

Quite the change from the SLI/CF "fix" and all the other wonders it could do. Maybe not vaporware, but surely hypeware.

Always fun when reality kicks in

They still need to generate cash. They should be positioning themselves to license their tech to cardmakers at this time.

[STEvil]

Plug that into a laptop. External GPU's FTW.

[003]

But screw this freaking cloud rendering crap!! I hope this OnLive and the like fail hard!!

[570091D]

But screw this freaking cloud rendering crap!! I hope this OnLive and the like fail hard!!

just because a lot of people can't afford a 'rig' to game with, doesn't mean they should be able to play pc video games. and if this tech does take off, there is no reason you would have to take part. though i can see this "cloud gaming" idea as a huge job oppertunity for those of us that know how to tune a computer to play games.

back on topic, i too am waiting for the day when i can buy a mobo with a hydra chip onboard. the irony will be discovering that games run best with one ati card and one nvidia card.

[orangekiwii]

"just because a lot of people can't afford a 'rig' to game with, doesn't mean they should be able to play pc video games"

i think u mean to say

just because a lot of people can't afford a 'rig' to game with, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to play pc video games

[ILikeCosmosS]

finally my dream coming true a external gpu paired with small note book

[Xoulz]

We won't see a HYDRA chip until 6 months after they release DirctX11.

Lucid is probably working on that right now, because currently they are DX9 only. Though, it doesn't matter when, because when it does happen, SLI and XFire will be gone. Near 100% scaling would be too ridiculous to pass up.

[grimREEFER]

so yea, im not buying the hype. maybe good for some specific apps, but i dont see it used for gaming.

[003]

just because a lot of people can't afford a 'rig' to game with, doesn't mean they should be able to play pc video games. and if this tech does take off, there is no reason you would have to take part. though i can see this "cloud gaming" idea as a huge job oppertunity for those of us that know how to tune a computer to play games.

back on topic, i too am waiting for the day when i can buy a mobo with a hydra chip onboard. the irony will be discovering that games run best with one ati card and one nvidia card.

The reason OnLive is being pushed is to enforce stricter DRM. It will be a worse experience than playing on a slower PC with medium settings due to the input lag. And it will all but kill off the need for XtremeSystems if it takes off and gains popularity. Who would want expensive fast hardware anymore when you can play on your netbook?

[saaya]

It looks like the hydra chip wasn't vaporware after all.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=7372

wha? welcome to 2008? 0_o
they started shipping those in december iirc...

Quite the change from the SLI/CF "fix" and all the other wonders it could do. Maybe not vaporware, but surely hypeware.
Always fun when reality kicks in

wow, you really have no idea what hydra really is??? hahaha
go do your homework before trashing it man

indeed fun when reality kicks in

We won't see a HYDRA chip until 6 months after they release DirctX11.

0_o says who?

Ok so when will we mortals have Lucid Hydra on our motherboards?

P55

[Decami]

Tell you guys right now, Hydra is not at all going to be one of those things mentioned and then disapears. The tech is there, and the idea is too big to not go anywhere.

The tech has been proven, who cares how, or with what cards. The point is, it has 100% been proven and demoed to work. Which means its only a matter of time before it is improved and marketed, too big of a thing not to be.

Not saying i believe in time travel, bust as an example. If scientists were able to say, send a quarter back in time and prove they did. Thats a huge thing, and a huge proven thing, its only a matter of time before the tech is improved, and Hydra isnt time travel, and it isnt rocket science either. This is too big to just disapear, if it gets to that point, a random company will pick it up, this tech will only continue to improve with somebody's money.

The Hydra is inevitable, the only question here is when.

[Smartidiot89]

back on topic, i too am waiting for the day when i can buy a mobo with a hydra chip onboard. the irony will be discovering that games run best with one ati card and one nvidia card.

I heard that this wouldn't be possible due to driver issues...

P55

Source or GTFO

[Decami]

I heard that this wouldn't be possible due to driver issues...

Source or GTFO

and you would be right, unless of course, hydra has some magic software that can use 2 graphics drivers at once, but this is highly improbable on an operating system that has trouble with 2 installed. 3rd party drivers would due the trick though, sorta. But that is hardly supported nor proven possible...so...its one of those things, thats kinda up in the air at this point. More leaning towards no.

Whats known for shure at this point, is that the hydra chip can work with a variation of any card, supported by the one graphics driver installed on the machine. So supposedly, take an nvidia driver, pull up a list of cards supported for that driver, and you can use any variation, roughly, of those. Though quality im shure will come into play at a variation too far apart, to a degree.

[Smartidiot89]

Whats known for shure at this point, is that the hydra chip can work with a variation of any card, supported by the one graphics driver installed on the machine. So supposedly, take an nvidia driver, pull up a list of cards supported for that driver, and you can use any variation, roughly, of those. Though quality im shure will come into play at a variation too far apart, to a degree.

This is what will be real interesting about Hydra, being able to combine my old card with my new card even thou the GPU is different but also the linear scaling that LucidLogix claim this would give...

[Xoulz]

and you would be right, unless of course, hydra has some magic software that can use 2 graphics drivers at once, but this is highly improbable on an operating system that has trouble with 2 installed. 3rd party drivers would due the trick though, sorta. But that is hardly supported nor proven possible...so...its one of those things, thats kinda up in the air at this point. More leaning towards no.

Whats known for shure at this point, is that the hydra chip can work with a variation of any card, supported by the one graphics driver installed on the machine. So supposedly, take an nvidia driver, pull up a list of cards supported for that driver, and you can use any variation, roughly, of those. Though quality im shure will come into play at a variation too far apart, to a degree.

That is not my understanding of it.

The HYDRA chip has it's own driver that interfaces with all the cards and the OS is fed from that. Phsysically it's output is fed to the monitor using one of the video cards displays ports.

[Shintai]

wow, you really have no idea what hydra really is??? hahaha
go do your homework before trashing it man

indeed fun when reality kicks in

Hydra aint what it was supposed to be. Hydra aint what people "dreamed" about.

And what...Hydra on P55 boards. Ye sure...believe it.

[3NZ0]

P55

Got any links?

I've seen the odd p55/7 board with an nf200 but nothing else.

So right now, this chip just looks like a 'smart' pci-e bridge chip, I thought it was going to allow a mix of nvidia and ati cards with good scaling?

[naokaji]

I thought it was going to allow a mix of nvidia and ati cards with good scaling?

Thats what the hype promised it to be, but there is no proof of that so far and avalaibility is well eh... lets put it this way, you can't buy it.

[Sailindawg]

Whelp.....it will be interesting if this HYDRA ever materializes on a MB as an add-on chip. It has the possibility of turning multi-gpu rendering on it's head from the proprietary formats of SLI / CF. Windows 7 has no problem with 2 different vid cards and their individual drivers. I can use an ATI card for my main graphics card and use nVidia for PhysX. This chip could finally bring a usable multi-gpu graphics solution that is truly independent of nVidia or ATI/AMD software. I have been watching the news about this one for the past year or so. Still hypeware/vaporware for the enthusiast though.

[Decami]

That is not my understanding of it.

The HYDRA chip has it's own driver that interfaces with all the cards and the OS is fed from that. Phsysically it's output is fed to the monitor using one of the video cards displays ports.

Well you might have understood wrong from someone who didnt understand themselves. Cause what I said came out of Lucid's mouth. The many surfaced interviews and showcases by Lucid explained it as being exactly as I have here. The ATI/Nvidia at the same time thing, is more or less made up hype.

Its kind of impossible if you think about it. Nvidia nor ATI would never let Lucid right drivers supporting both cards for rendering purposes. Rights are involved in that case. They would both do anything to stop it, and both succeed as well