Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want

[LinusTech]

I see a lot of this going on and don't understand the point of adding multiple biocides. It kind of reminds me of people who like to run three antivirus programs at all times "just to be extra safe".

I've actually seen contraception "tips" in the past advising people not to wear two condoms at a time (one over the other) because it actually just increases the chance of it slipping off.



But seriously, doubling up your protection for sex is an entirely different matter...

SNiiPE, I can't make you do anything. All I can do is give you the best advice I'm capable of giving.

Pro LRT is not anti-microbial because it blocks light. A you mentioned, that simply wouldn't work because of reservoirs, but it also wouldn't work on clear tubing (available in LRT). There's something in there. You can roll the dice if you want to, but I wouldn't do it.

linus

if you ran primochill LRT tubing you wouldn't need ANYTHING at all other than distilled?

This is correct. The same goes for PT_NUKE. If you're using NUKE, you should have nothing else in your loop. I think Alex was doing some testing a while back to find out which Feser colours were compatible with PT_NUKE, but I never saw the results, so the simple truth remains the every time you mix anything you're taking a chance.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

SNiiPE, I can't make you do anything. All I can do is give you the best advice I'm capable of giving.

Pro LRT is not anti-microbial because it blocks light. As you mentioned, that simply wouldn't work because of reservoirs, but it also wouldn't work on clear tubing (available in LRT). There's something in there. You can roll the dice if you want to, but I wouldn't do it.

What is with your attitude? I never asked for your coveted advice you just put it out there.

I asked a question and you treated it like I was stating a blatantly incorrect fact.... and you dont even know what the tubing has for antimicrobial yourself so why are you acting like you know it causes a reaction?

[brammers]

If you're after a blue-ish tint, I've been running a 95% distilled, 5% G11 and 2 drops per litre PT Nuke (copper version). Check my avatar for the blue-effect you get.

Took the loop apart after 9 months and everything was like new.

See pic (Fuzion v1):



No ketchup required.

Looking in the tubes etc now, 7 months after that and the fluid looks as clear as the day I put it in.

HTH
J

[LinusTech]

and you dont even know what the tubing has for antimicrobial yourself

That's exactly the point. I don't know what's in it, but I do know that it's not blocking the light, so rather than conjure up a hypothesis to support my pre-existing viewpoint, I take the safe road.

so why are you acting like you know it causes a reaction?

I specifically used phrases like "take a chance" and "roll the dice" because I don't know for sure.

The point is, I've seen these products used properly and they're fine. I've seen your loop and something went wrong in there. It could have been user error, or it could have been a manufacturing defect, but since we know that you've mixed chemicals in the loop, I'm leaning towards user error on this one.

The reason I would come in here guns blazing is because of the claim you've made in the subject of your post. You can't say stuff like that, man... You haven't confirmed anything, and I've never seen any evidence of an incompatibility between Feser Blue and the APOGEE GTZ. One of my co-workers is running just this configuration (based on my recommendation) and your post had him running home yesterday to check for disaster.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

The reason I would come in here guns blazing is because of the claim you've made in the subject of your post. You can't say stuff like that, man... You haven't confirmed anything, and I've never seen any evidence of an incompatibility between Feser Blue and the APOGEE GTZ. One of my co-workers is running just this configuration (based on my recommendation) and your post had him running home yesterday to check for disaster.

? If you read the post I conclude that the constant high temps had to be a major factor in the intense clogging I experienced for this very reason: we dont have mass reports of clogging GTZ's with feser fluid because most people arent using their machines that much.

No other parts of the loop are clogged in crap, all the barbs are clean except the ones on the CPU block so what exactly should I be concluding?

[LinusTech]

? If you read the post I conclude that the constant high temps had to be a major factor in the intense clogging I experienced for this very reason: we dont have mass reports of clogging GTZ's with feser fluid because most people arent using their machines that much.

No other parts of the loop are clogged in crap, all the barbs are clean except the ones on the CPU block so what exactly should I be concluding?

Heat does not cause a reaction. It can only assist it.

And I think you would be surprised to discover that the temperature of the water right next to the copper in the GTZ is within 1 degree of the water anywhere else in your loop.

This is not the cause of your problem.

[millertime359]

? If you read the post I conclude that the constant high temps had to be a major factor in the intense clogging I experienced for this very reason: we dont have mass reports of clogging GTZ's with feser fluid because most people arent using their machines that much.

No other parts of the loop are clogged in crap, all the barbs are clean except the ones on the CPU block so what exactly should I be concluding?

Hey snipe,
I can see what he is saying, even though he is coming across a little strong. Your post title is "Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want"

I can understand how that would scare the crap out of someone who is not an avid water cooler.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Hey snipe,
I can see what he is saying, even though he is coming across a little strong. Your post title is "Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want"

I can understand how that would scare the crap out of someone who is not an avid water cooler.

true, when I wrote the title I was more thinking along the lines of "confirmed I had clogged mine" because until I opened the system up I had suspected the block was clogged but I was unsure.