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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Sure after my PSU' s arrive tomorrow and I hook everything up to boot it.
    Thanks Bro...

    I finally got a reply from their online tech support. I don't know if its a language barrier or what, but it's as bad as I remembered with the DS5 and S2H....
    Asking me the same questions I had explained in the previous message...

    This really is a MUCH better board than either of those, and I can work around the problem to some extent by using Phenom MSR Tweaker but this is a pretty serious problem.
    I hope they don't just give up on it...

    Hopefully the "powers that be" are watching this thread and can explain the results I got in the previous message...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    Thanks Bro...

    I finally got a reply from their online tech support. I don't know if its a language barrier or what, but it's as bad as I remembered with the DS5 and S2H....
    Asking me the same questions I had explained in the previous message...

    This really is a MUCH better board than either of those, and I can work around the problem to some extent by using Phenom MSR Tweaker but this is a pretty serious problem.
    I hope they don't just give up on it...

    Hopefully the "powers that be" are watching this thread and can explain the results I got in the previous message...
    I tried MSR Tweaker too.. Now I just Installed AOD 3.2.. I hate AOD..for me to install and use it means theres something wrong lol.

    the NBvid is controlable in AOD ONLY ,, I dont use AOD for overclocking so this sucks... After setting AOD and putting some stress on system i can see the higher temp loads from the ADDED NBvidvolts on the NB.

    It seems the NBvid is NOT working in Bios. It can only be adjusted in AOD or Other software. Ive tried everything , Nada, even if i set it to the MAX Nada. CPUvcore is the only CPU volt setting we Have that worksand i have even set that to max. Yup it does Max on CPUvcore 1.81v

    ONLY (Vcore is adjustable). I think teh GIGAguys think we may have been talking about the auto CPUvid or something instead of NBvid.This is so easy to see happen. NBvid does Not work period when trying to change in the BIOS.

    O when i Raise the NBvid (USING AOD) , since the Bios does keep it locked @1.2vid I can get above 2400mhz on the NB.

    I am not going to mess with the NBvid anymore or at least untill after another Bios. I dont need higher than 2000/2200nb ATm anyhow.

    Its one thing to play with high volts Its another not knowing how high.


    NBvid @! 1.36vid in AOD 3.2..
    I dont use AOD to overclcok .I only use the BIOS to OC on MOBO . So to me this sad that AOD can make it work ,but Gigabyte says theres no problem with NBvid,,its a problem



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    Quote Originally Posted by gOtVoltage View Post
    I tried MSR Tweaker too.. Now I just Installed AOD 3.2.. I hate AOD..for me to install and use it means theres something wrong lol.

    the NBvid is controlable in AOD ONLY ,, I dont use AOD for overclocking so this sucks... After setting AOD and putting some stress on system i can see the higher temp loads from the ADDED NBvidvolts on the NB.

    It seems the NBvid is NOT working in Bios. It can only be adjusted in AOD or Other software. Ive tried everything , Nada, even if i set it to the MAX Nada. CPUvcore is the only CPU volt setting we Have that worksand i have even set that to max. Yup it does Max on CPUvcore 1.81v

    ONLY (Vcore is adjustable). I think teh GIGAguys think we may have been talking about the auto CPUvid or something instead of NBvid.This is so easy to see happen. NBvid does Not work period when trying to change in the BIOS.

    O when i Raise the NBvid (USING AOD) , since the Bios does keep it locked @1.2vid I can get above 2400mhz on the NB.

    I am not going to mess with the NBvid anymore or at least untill after another Bios. I dont need higher than 2000/2200nb ATm anyhow.

    Its one thing to play with high volts Its another not knowing how high.


    NBvid @! 1.36vid in AOD 3.2..
    I dont use AOD to overclcok .I only use the BIOS to OC on MOBO . So to me this sad that AOD can make it work ,but Gigabyte says theres no problem with NBvid,,its a problem



    Note: when using AOD ,, It will set the NBvid and you can use Everest to see it change as well as other sensor software.
    Interesting, so Based on Daveburts testing, and what AOD seems to be showing, the NBvid is not being adjusted via bios. Funny how AOD is showing the correct NBvid voltage, but not cpu voltage...or does your chip run 3.7 at 1.3 volts?>!?!! Also my AOD says my memory is at 1.7v when i ve set it to 2.0 in bios.

    I guess we ll see once we get the DMM readings

    Ok, even more wackyness. When i try raising the voltages with AOD, ie raise nb volts to 1.36, apply... it comes up with the warning etc, then applies..but goes back to 1.2 on the scale...and everest shows the same thing.. no change?!
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    OK guys I am playing on the 790FX-UD5P and I think i have your issues figured out.........

    You guys have no Port 80 diagnostic cards and are impatient

    Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed..........

    I just passed cinebench 4050mhz cpu and 2700 NB with according to AOD 1.1NB vid so I would say that its just being reported wrong.

    So once again like I stated you can send images to gigabyte till your hearts content........If you do not send them a shot of bios setting and a multimeter readout they will not take you serious

    I will see if i can figure out the reason its taking so long to apply the settings and see if we can speed it up a tad......
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    OK guys I am playing on the 790FX-UD5P and I think i have your issues figured out.........

    You guys have no Port 80 diagnostic cards and are impatient

    Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed..........

    I just passed cinebench 4050mhz cpu and 2700 NB with according to AOD 1.1NB vid so I would say that its just being reported wrong.

    So once again like I stated you can send images to gigabyte till your hearts content........If you do not send them a shot of bios setting and a multimeter readout they will not take you serious

    I will see if i can figure out the reason its taking so long to apply the settings and see if we can speed it up a tad......
    So set NBvid +.250v and change the multi to a boot? Should i try a lower divider and boost the cpu fsb? I just want more memory stability, i know with 8gb of ram my oc potential is lower, but if i could get it to 3.7 i d be happy
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    Ehh i'm running 225 fsb but only to run the ram at specs.....post a screenie in a few trying to get 2900 benchable...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Ehh i'm running 225 fsb but only to run the ram at specs.....post a screenie in a few trying to get 2900 benchable...........
    yeah bumped the fsb to 210, have my rame (ddr2 800) clocked to 820mhz, 1.8 stock volts, to 2.0 and tried the + .250 nb vid.. booted no problem Ran OCCT, detected a core error on core1 with cpu volts at 1.475 .. not sure how to tell which core i unlocked when i put on hybrid.. so for now, 3.5ghz is 24/7 stable, with 2200 nb, nbvid +.200, and multi 17.5 , fsb 200.. i ll try again tommorow, gonna watch some robin hood first ^^

    Thanks for all your input by the way, its invaluable
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed...
    I tried this chew* (@ 2600nb), and it didn't work, the machine shut down and never rebooted. I even took a shower waiting for it to come around, nothing short of a CMOS reset would get it to post again. (It appears my chip just won't do 2600nb at reasonable volts)...

    I've been messing with this board most of the day and even though the monitoring software only shows IMC changes when it's done through software it does seem that the bios is making some kind of voltage change on the IMC (I can't imagine I'd get 2400nb @ 1.20v's)...

    I managed to get the system to a point where I'm pretty happy with the Clocks/Voltages without having to use PhMSR Tweaker, which is a good thing.

    CLICKABLE Bios Shot:


    CLICKABLE Stable Clocks (new 24/7 Bios only settings):


    The Bios "software hooks" are terrible to say the least. Along with the PCI-e problem, adjusting HTLink multi with AOD doesn't work either....
    I'm not really sure whats going on without test points and a DMM but at least I got an unlocked 4th with clocks and V's I can live with.
    To be quite honest I'm getting tired of with it for now...

    Hopefully they won't give up on this board and the next bios will fix some of this squirleyness.
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    UPDATE THE X4_550Beast lives...time to play UD4P..goodness

    First off i set Defaults and unloaded the 720 andInstalled 550BE.

    1st BOOT In Hybrid Mode,, F5A Bios UNLOCKED .


    Next :
    Noticed is Vcore is 1.35v Default.

    Then:
    NBvid is @ 1.1vid Default... This is lower than my 720 @1.2vid

    Now :

    Im getting and Idea where the Temps are and will slowly bump up the Volts to see how the Heat rises.

    Interesting :

    It may be a 955 variant. Its temps are 26c Idle Bios @ 3.1ghz X4cores and 1.34volts .

    The 720 was 28c Idles@ stock 2.8ghz X4cores 1.3volts.

    It could be the default NBvid too. Only way ill know is to raise it up some

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    Will post clocks later,, Im seeing what volts this thing likes and if the NB goes higher than the 720 @ stock NBvid volts.
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    I will address the NB issue shortly however I know for a fact its not voltage related and +.20 is not enough for 2600NB on this board currently......I believe I know where the issue lies.....most likely the same issue the ddr III board had with voltage is not applied in the correct order for boot......

    It can be clocked...but not easily.....I'm running into similar issues on the UD5P ddr II, I can get crazy NB speed but it takes some serious finesse to do so on the F4A bios which should be public and the same or similar to what your on.
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