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    Quote Originally Posted by villa1n View Post
    I dont have a volt monitor, that i could use, but where on the mobo would you take the reading from to confirm?

    Also if the nb volts are working... I would also tend to agree with dave burt as to what i ve seen, i ve been rock solid up to 3.5ghz, 3 core/4cores doesnt matter, but anything above, i start to get page fault in non paged area bsods.. i have my nb at 2200mhz, I do have 8gb of valueish mushkin ram, but timings are loose, and not oc'd, If it were other bsod's it would make sense , my stability doesnt seem to fluctuate on nb vid.. with I have in bios at +.200v so an effective 1.4 amds safe max.. I ll play again systematically this weekend maybe and see what i can come up with, could be my nb is taxed at 2200?
    Its not maxed,, I have Done 2400 and My NB does 2800+ @ 1.45vid on two other Mobos.

    On THIS MOBO even with +.200,,,250,,.300 = 1.5vid it wont do crap on the NB .. i dont know hwer to look but there is something going on . It may be volts or even Ram related ..

    Im still playing around with the Nbvid to see if i can see Temp fluctuations when i raise and lower it. So far i it dosnt matter what i do it seems to stay the Same.

    This Same 720 can do 3700cpu/NB2800+ @ 1.55vid with no erors/bsod's on the M3A79_T

    I know the M3A VId works 100%. You can see it in the Nb Speed at any speed.

    Somethings happening to keep the NB @ 2400 and lower.
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    Ok guys, as promised I did some tests tonight and here are the results.

    Conditions: I uninstalled PhenomMSR Tweaker before the test to avoid any potential interference. I was going to continue the tests with just lowered CPU and Memory settings (to take everything else out of the equation). Unfortunately, with my NB Multi @ 12x (setting used with PMSRT) I got to the Win7 password screen, entered password and the machine failed to load windows... So I used the HTmulti to tweak as close as I could and still be bootable.

    Heres the bios settings:
    As you can see IMCv's are set to 1.30v

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    After boot, all I did was open Everest, AMD Power Monitor and 2 CPU-z Screens. Both Everest and AMDPM show NBvid @ 1.20v...
    Then I ran a 10 pass IBT run. The result was an "Unstable system warning", IBT failed!

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    Without making any other changes, I opened AOD and added .05v to the IMC making sure that all other settings and voltages remained the same, then closed AOD. All this was done without any other changes being made and without a reboot. I then ran another 10 pass IBT run.

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    Now, both Everest and AMDPM show the IMC at 1.25v and the IBT run passes succesfully. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't know how else to explain this other than the fact that the monitoring software is working correctly and the bios is NOT setting the CPU-NB vid...

    chew*: I may be able to borrow a DMM from a freind and it seems like the UD5P and UD4P are at least physically similar, could you shoot me a pic of the NBvid measurment points on the UD5P?
    At least it would give me a starting point of where to look....
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    Sure after my PSU' s arrive tomorrow and I hook everything up to boot it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Sure after my PSU' s arrive tomorrow and I hook everything up to boot it.
    Thanks Bro...

    I finally got a reply from their online tech support. I don't know if its a language barrier or what, but it's as bad as I remembered with the DS5 and S2H....
    Asking me the same questions I had explained in the previous message...

    This really is a MUCH better board than either of those, and I can work around the problem to some extent by using Phenom MSR Tweaker but this is a pretty serious problem.
    I hope they don't just give up on it...

    Hopefully the "powers that be" are watching this thread and can explain the results I got in the previous message...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    Thanks Bro...

    I finally got a reply from their online tech support. I don't know if its a language barrier or what, but it's as bad as I remembered with the DS5 and S2H....
    Asking me the same questions I had explained in the previous message...

    This really is a MUCH better board than either of those, and I can work around the problem to some extent by using Phenom MSR Tweaker but this is a pretty serious problem.
    I hope they don't just give up on it...

    Hopefully the "powers that be" are watching this thread and can explain the results I got in the previous message...
    I tried MSR Tweaker too.. Now I just Installed AOD 3.2.. I hate AOD..for me to install and use it means theres something wrong lol.

    the NBvid is controlable in AOD ONLY ,, I dont use AOD for overclocking so this sucks... After setting AOD and putting some stress on system i can see the higher temp loads from the ADDED NBvidvolts on the NB.

    It seems the NBvid is NOT working in Bios. It can only be adjusted in AOD or Other software. Ive tried everything , Nada, even if i set it to the MAX Nada. CPUvcore is the only CPU volt setting we Have that worksand i have even set that to max. Yup it does Max on CPUvcore 1.81v

    ONLY (Vcore is adjustable). I think teh GIGAguys think we may have been talking about the auto CPUvid or something instead of NBvid.This is so easy to see happen. NBvid does Not work period when trying to change in the BIOS.

    O when i Raise the NBvid (USING AOD) , since the Bios does keep it locked @1.2vid I can get above 2400mhz on the NB.

    I am not going to mess with the NBvid anymore or at least untill after another Bios. I dont need higher than 2000/2200nb ATm anyhow.

    Its one thing to play with high volts Its another not knowing how high.


    NBvid @! 1.36vid in AOD 3.2..
    I dont use AOD to overclcok .I only use the BIOS to OC on MOBO . So to me this sad that AOD can make it work ,but Gigabyte says theres no problem with NBvid,,its a problem



    Note: when using AOD ,, It will set the NBvid and you can use Everest to see it change as well as other sensor software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gOtVoltage View Post
    I tried MSR Tweaker too.. Now I just Installed AOD 3.2.. I hate AOD..for me to install and use it means theres something wrong lol.

    the NBvid is controlable in AOD ONLY ,, I dont use AOD for overclocking so this sucks... After setting AOD and putting some stress on system i can see the higher temp loads from the ADDED NBvidvolts on the NB.

    It seems the NBvid is NOT working in Bios. It can only be adjusted in AOD or Other software. Ive tried everything , Nada, even if i set it to the MAX Nada. CPUvcore is the only CPU volt setting we Have that worksand i have even set that to max. Yup it does Max on CPUvcore 1.81v

    ONLY (Vcore is adjustable). I think teh GIGAguys think we may have been talking about the auto CPUvid or something instead of NBvid.This is so easy to see happen. NBvid does Not work period when trying to change in the BIOS.

    O when i Raise the NBvid (USING AOD) , since the Bios does keep it locked @1.2vid I can get above 2400mhz on the NB.

    I am not going to mess with the NBvid anymore or at least untill after another Bios. I dont need higher than 2000/2200nb ATm anyhow.

    Its one thing to play with high volts Its another not knowing how high.


    NBvid @! 1.36vid in AOD 3.2..
    I dont use AOD to overclcok .I only use the BIOS to OC on MOBO . So to me this sad that AOD can make it work ,but Gigabyte says theres no problem with NBvid,,its a problem



    Note: when using AOD ,, It will set the NBvid and you can use Everest to see it change as well as other sensor software.
    Interesting, so Based on Daveburts testing, and what AOD seems to be showing, the NBvid is not being adjusted via bios. Funny how AOD is showing the correct NBvid voltage, but not cpu voltage...or does your chip run 3.7 at 1.3 volts?>!?!! Also my AOD says my memory is at 1.7v when i ve set it to 2.0 in bios.

    I guess we ll see once we get the DMM readings

    Ok, even more wackyness. When i try raising the voltages with AOD, ie raise nb volts to 1.36, apply... it comes up with the warning etc, then applies..but goes back to 1.2 on the scale...and everest shows the same thing.. no change?!
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    OK guys I am playing on the 790FX-UD5P and I think i have your issues figured out.........

    You guys have no Port 80 diagnostic cards and are impatient

    Try setting +.250 NB vid and 2600-2700 NB speeds...........wait a good minute.......before you decide that its not going to boot........Its going through a cycle when you change NB speed..........

    I just passed cinebench 4050mhz cpu and 2700 NB with according to AOD 1.1NB vid so I would say that its just being reported wrong.

    So once again like I stated you can send images to gigabyte till your hearts content........If you do not send them a shot of bios setting and a multimeter readout they will not take you serious

    I will see if i can figure out the reason its taking so long to apply the settings and see if we can speed it up a tad......
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