Yeah, we really need benchmarks to measure performance in idle mode imo.Originally Posted by ubuntu83
Yeah, we really need benchmarks to measure performance in idle mode imo.
Last edited by zalbard; 06-04-2009 at 07:46 AM.
Guess it depends on your focus. I agree that they need to curb power consumption. But not at the price of downclocking. They just need to get more efficient at getting current and more performance.
The number I care most about is load power consumption, as that is where my stuff runs the majority of the time. For example, the only time my CPU is idle is when the PC is off, and that is only once in a great while
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Before the rv770 (hd4850) was released, there was talk about it running 10w @ idle...ended up using more power than idle gtx280. Lets hope they hit 10 watts this time.
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-dx11....html?doc=7154There is a DX11 gaming system lurking deep in Computex but we managed to hunt it down as usual. We can't provide you a close up right now but judging from the looks of it, the card is about 8.5" long, dual slot and requires a 6-pin power. This card probably belongs to the mainstream segment (RV840), part of the AMD's DX11 Evergreen family. The silicon is at A10 revision right now and we can expect another spin before it enters mass production. Targeted launch of the first DX11 part is in September before the Windows 7 hits the market on October 22nd. Some benchmarks later...
The core itself using 10w and the power being pulled by the entire card are two completely different things.
Interesting, another person mentioning A10 silicon which is not how AMD/ATi does(did) their numbering...
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
Fair point. Id just like to see the new card idle a good bit lower than the gtx280,....or is the gtx running on the bones of its arse when idle?
Maybe this chip is just a shrinked and updated RV790 and it is AMD's lower value-chip, you know, like HD-4770 is to HD-4890 now. At least I hope AMD is not aiming that low for their RV870.
(I have to admit that I completely lost track to the rumours about recent hardware...)
Last edited by FischOderAal; 06-04-2009 at 12:45 PM.
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Hmm, so it's possible that RV 840, the 180+ mm^2 chip, will be launched first, while it's bigger brother, RV 870, was held to be released a bit later, in time to face nVidia's G300 derivatives and waiting for TSMC's 40 nm manufacturing process to get better first, so they could get the best yield out of a rather big die -relatively, in regards to ATi's sweetspot strategy and working on the problematic 40 nm node.
Guys,the "not new architecture" means the chip is based on the same RV770/790 design,just expanded by a fair margin in SP/TMU/ROP areas as 40nm node allows it within same TDP.I would expect around 1200SP,48TMUs and 32 ROPs for RV870 part.My estimate is that clocks will be the same or a bit better than RV790.You can scale down from this to RV840 etc.X2 will be the same as now.
1600SPs and 80TMUs paired with 32ROPs is what I am expecting.
Hopefully this ~181mm2 chip has at leat another pair of SIMDs, to add some more FPP over RV790. Remember all those rumors that RV790 was actually a 960SP chip on 40nm? Maybe they were getting mixed info with this chip...
Last edited by LordEC911; 06-04-2009 at 02:31 PM.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
if october 22nd is when the rv870 comes i probably will wait a little and not get the rv790
I'm hoping for earlier than that, considering the slides said "Sooner than you think"
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Oct 22 is Windows 7, and Vr-zone hinted at september release, before Win 7...
Where does this put nvidia in terms of release date for a dx11 part...
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Was pretty much confirmed in a conference call that it wouldn't be this year.
Was confirmed at Computex that G300 was delayed to Q1 '10.
So unless they feeding AIBs misinfo or have another DX11 chip that is completely unknown, it doesn't look like this year.
Last edited by LordEC911; 06-04-2009 at 03:40 PM.
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
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YUP, even a 3 year old 8800GTX can play most games with high settings. 30FPS or higher.
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30 FPS is not enough; maybe as a minimum, but certainly not as an average.
He was probably just looking for something nvidia-related to agree with.
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