What makes a computer a MDPC??

[Entropicity]

Looks like a Million Dollars.

I feel, if someone can spend a few cents to achieve that, it would epitomize the concept.

[gOtVoltage]

You peel back a Book and reviel its page,

Its only then ,

You see the words of its age ,

So forward you read,

The wisdom inside,,

Not knowing whats written,

The words have not died,,

Not judging its cover,,

you gave life to words which just lied,,

The book now lives,,

Because you tried



We are Modders,We choose to create,to use our Knowledge and Wisdom ,
To make what no one else has made. To Be One of a Kind . To be a MODDER
To make a MDPC

[hmmisee]

To make a computer a MDPC is hard to put into words.
But you can summarise it neatly. "A computer that is different from every others, to not follow the trend; but to create a new one."

[dualbrain]

Just one thing: There is no Black&White Photography (would be too easy to make something look good) nor photoshopped systems. I have RAW of almost every system.
If anyone wants to take a bet, I give access to the RAWs

I don't have that much time atm, but I try to get back here, because it's very nice to see you discussing it without cussing it

[.raw]

I think building a MDPC is about being creative and having ideas that nobody had before...but of course before that is possible the right hardware must be chosen, the right case etc
The complete artwork is what counts, so everything has to match and you have to have a concept that is drawn through the complete pc...every detail is important

But i have to say the photography skills are not unnecessary though

Hope my English is understandable

[tool_462]

@ Naekuh's ego

[dro]

my definition of MDPC is

1) attention to detail
2) symmetry/harmony/follow through

+1 for photography, but i hv friends who photographer (amateurs, not pros).
who i seek tips and advice on the shoots,
they say the shots are pretty much the same in every system, achieve-able with the "correct technique"

***just my 2cent opinion guys,,, i just love the photography on MDPC.........kudos to who are listed ****

[NaeKuh]

@ Naekuh's ego

dont stay in the room too long, my big head will suck up all the oxygen.

[dualbrain]

If a complete ("I am finished") system is "wow, that is the best I have seen for a long time" on first sight and no-compromise (no little "I don't care, it had to go quick" or "I know, but I would need to take the system apart again to make it perfect" details) is found on existing pictures, then the builder is approached. But some "good" photos make that happening more likely. The reports (links) that people send me are very very helpful, even that most of the chosen ones were already known before through build-logs in development. But I don't want to miss any, so reports are very appreciated.

At this "maybe-stage" it doesn't matter what quality of photos is delivered, because I need them to have a look into every corner before a group of people is discussing it. That is important to not get a system that has "some compromises are hidden somewhere". Yes - I know that systems of the past were not perfect. But that was the past and at that time the systems were very good and inspired others that came later ... today is today.

Especially if it just doesn't meet my personal taste, but execution is excellent, then I let the little group of individualists decide, because my personal taste should not prevent any system to get onto the site for the next 20 years, if it will be loved by so many others. If it would be a public voting system for everyone, the site would end up like so many others, with no limit to "who can be on it and who not". I am looking for "what can give inspiration to many out there and maybe move modding evolutionary into new perspectives". This is why so few are shown there.

The historical ones were great at their time and that's why they have a right to be there forever. For todays mods: All should just look at the latest 2-3 ones to see what the current "level" is, in order to exceed it or create a new variation OR just build something that is completely different.

The site appeals to so many who have nothing to do with modding and that is very nice, because they simply enjoy looking at the systems. It's like a gallery and in 20-30 years it will cover evolution of computers and hopefully make us all remember "oh yes, that was the system that brought this and that into the following systems of that time". Of course it doesn't meet everyones opinion, but many ones'.

Photography is easy if all the rest is "optimal". Lots of people will support the builder if necessary. The rule of thumb at the moment is like that: A "simple" system needs to be photographed very appealing. An uber-system where i. e. the case is fully constructed by the builder himself and this system has so much potential to change the looks of computers / computer-cases in the future, then I just want "as best as possible" photos by the builder. It doesn't need to be uber-perfect, but as good as for the builder is possible.

Photography is like modding: You build soooo long on a system, then you can spend a few hours with experimenting and trying to get the best out of the photo-shoot. I think this is additional motivation to break into new grounds that you thought couldn't be done by yourself.

And it's also a social thing: You ask friends to help you a little bit etc. The 030-photoshoot was something like that. We were standing there with 3 boys and one girl. They were holding blankets so that there are no furniture-reflections in the side-panel-window. They had pain, I was shooting It was in an apartment with almost no light. It's all improvisation and just a few had access to professional studios (you know them). It's worth to do your best with photography: Months of building and the system just deserves to be pictured well - do it for yourself and your system - not for a website, competition or MDPC.

I always say when people ask me about "can my future system be on MDPC?":
"Build it for yourself (and the community if you like) and forget that I am responsible for this project, because I don't want to be your enemy later on because I didn't take the system. Even if you don't get on it, you enjoyed the time and did your best - and most propably exceeded what you thought you can do."

And it's not so easy to be "the guy with the site", because I (rarely) hear frustrations because of expectations. If I know somebody personally or via forums and I have little doubts about "readiness", then I never decide myself and pass it on to my little group of adults spread around the world. Also my girlfriend and people that don't have anything to do with modding are included and their opinion is heard
Btw.: Lumina is what the "old people who don't build computers" love most of the time I know that some people think, that I just let my personal taste decide. It's simply not true, because I do this project for you and not myself.

About final shots that are shown on the site:
Photography needs to cover "full-case-view" from front, side, backside to see that there is no compromise all around. Then a full shot that shows the complete interior setup in one picture is required. Then "closeups" of the neat little solutions and specialities. And then the so called "style shots" just for the pleasure of the viewer who is not interested in "how did he attach the thing ... how did he set up the loop ...".

About "what makes an MDPC":
Ashraf's quote of an email I sent when he asked how to get on MDPC is very good and sums it up.

Is it something to criticize?
It's just a little website in the end - nothing special, nothing important.
I am not a special modder either, no technical person - I just like to see new ideas and beautiful systems. Whenever I can inspire someone else, that's more than I can dream of. I love to see everyone expressing his fun and showing what he / she does. It should all be fun for yourself and then all others enjoy it who are watching you. It's not about competitive thinking - even that I had to learn it too in my past (not with modding) to just appreciate what others do - especially if they do it good or "better"

I just learned one thing about modding:
When you think you are done, it just begins.
And when you honestly can't think about anything else that you can do to make your work better, then it's potentially an MDPC - but who cares then, because you did your best and there is nothing better

[dro]

fine words from the guru himself
well said nils

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

About Nils comment on cooperation for photography:

Most of you know that I have a professional photo studio in my house, I would just like to throw out there that if anyone ever has an MDPC caliber machine that needs photographing and they are local to the northeast US (or maybe you are taking a trip to the northeast with your machine ) you are more than welcome to come over and we will do a photoshoot together! No charges or payments just a friendly photoshoot for an incredible build

All you have to do is PM and we can go from there

[charles_h]

I just learned one thing about modding:
When you think you are done, it just begins.
And when you honestly can't think about anything else that you can do to make your work better, then it's potentially an MDPC - but who cares then, because you did your best and there is nothing better

Indeed.

MDPC and your efforts have helped me really see the details - things I previously blocked out. Like the first Fried Chicken build pics when you said: "what about the optical drive enclosure... surely it should also be painted black" to the 009 build when you said: "hmmm... perhaps that exposed HD label can be removed..." - and many similar instances in between. At the time I cursed, but ultimately I understood that if the desire is to truly do one's best, then one has to "unblock" one's view of the things we've conditioned ourselves not see. I believe it’s this ideal that sums up MDPC and its contribution to the Community. In the end as you say, it's all about the effort put forth and the desire to do one's best; that's really the reward – and IMHO, this is the spirit that MDPC so eloquently fosters.

[lkiller123]

Being inspired by all the systems on MDPC, I started dreaming about building one, though I know that it can hardly be possible.

I know that building a MDPC takes lots of dedication and you have to pour out your heart in order to make it perfect

but does building the MDPC need MONEY and SKILLS?

The reason why MDPC is the fiction for me is

- I'm only 14 years old, and I had NEVER built a computer before, but still, I know about computer BECAUSE of XS and all the forummates
- Parents? "Who cares? A computer is something that is a tool, it just needs to be functional, it not a piece of art!"
- Unlimited budget? You've got to be kidding! "It's got to be below 800 dollars!"
- Me? I can't mod. I can't paint, I don't have the money to paint, I don't have the tools, I don't have ANYTHING to mod, but I can only learn.
- Time? I've got summer program, educational camp, violin lesson, high school preparation....

So will it be possible for a person like me to make an MDPC? For me, I think it is possible, but hardly

Still, I have the dedication and heart for it, I know that I can do it someday and I WILL make one someday

[Entropicity]

Being inspired by all the systems on MDPC, I started dreaming about building one, though I know that it can hardly be possible.

I know that building a MDPC takes lots of dedication and you have to pour out your heart in order to make it perfect

but does building the MDPC need MONEY and SKILLS?

The reason why MDPC is the fiction for me is

- I'm only 14 years old, and I had NEVER built a computer before, but still, I know about computer BECAUSE of XS and all the forummates
- Parents? "Who cares? A computer is something that is a tool, it just needs to be functional, it not a piece of art!"
- Unlimited budget? You've got to be kidding! "It's got to be below 800 dollars!"
- Me? I can't mod. I can't paint, I don't have the money to paint, I don't have the tools, I don't have ANYTHING to mod, but I can only learn.
- Time? I've got summer program, educational camp, violin lesson, high school preparation....

So will it be possible for a person like me to make an MDPC? For me, I think it is possible, but hardly

Still, I have the dedication and heart for it, I know that I can do it someday and I WILL make one someday

Give it a shot. It always helps to aim as high as you can even if you fall short. But at least you will be higher than you thought you could go. I try to do that in my own PC with limited time and budget.

[metachronos]

Being inspired by all the systems on MDPC, I started dreaming about building one, though I know that it can hardly be possible.



The reason why MDPC is the fiction for me is

- I'm only 14 years old, and I had NEVER built a computer before, but still, I know about computer BECAUSE of XS and all the forummates
- Parents? "Who cares? A computer is something that is a tool, it just needs to be functional, it not a piece of art!"
- Unlimited budget? You've got to be kidding! "It's got to be below 800 dollars!"
- Me? I can't mod. I can't paint, I don't have the money to paint, I don't have the tools, I don't have ANYTHING to mod, but I can only learn.
- Time? I've got summer program, educational camp, violin lesson, high school preparation....

So will it be possible for a person like me to make an MDPC? For me, I think it is possible, but hardly

Still, I have the dedication and heart for it, I know that I can do it someday and I WILL make one someday

Dude you're only 14? You have all the time in the world to work on it. Shouldn't you be worried about chasing girls or something? Once you're off on your own you can build your own system however you'd like. Don't sweat it, you've got plenty of time!

[whuzabi]

the one and only answer of this question is simple

go to charles ore dualbrain let they build one and its an mdpc



sry but i think its funny

[dualbrain]

Naaaaah - there were so many but just the ones that showed something new at that time were shown. I am really looking forward to hopefully get the first from the UK one day There are so many countries that are missing, can't wait to complete it step by step. But: no-compromise!

@charles:

@value moneywise: It's completely unimportant how much it costs. In three years from today, expensive stuff of today is cheap. Just go for looks and ultra-silent setups (a computer that makes sense) if you have no money for uber-power. And nobody sees what CPU you have in the system. And since "stickerless" systems are always "more no-compromise", nobody sees the price tag or super-special 100000000 gig HDD.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

super-special 100000000 gig HDD.

A 100 petabyte Hard drive???? this is MADNESS

[ILikeCosmosS]

isnt mdpc something that has never been done before something that noone has tried? isnt that what makes a MDPC?

[paul_]

A 100 petabyte Hard drive???? this is MADNESS

Madness?! This... Is... SPARTAAAAA!!!! (sorry, I really had to )

I wish I had the guts to go for a MDPC, but I'm just trying to whip up a build for college. Although I am trying many new things, I am aiming for enthusiasm and a good outcome, not perfection. Seriously, a week ago I couldn't pop a rivet

[Hidamari295GTX]

i think if you feel happy when building A pc of your own, it's a mdpc

maybe the pc cost you only 500 dollars, maybe the pc is not welcomed by all the people, but when you build that, you feel happy, when your friends come to see you, you can say with pride: hey, it's really my own pc! you can
never see another pc like this on earth!

maybe you will think it is ugly, but it includes my precious hard work , and my unique thoughts.
and that is my mdpc,


ps: sorry for my bad english

[Hidamari295GTX]

i think if you feel happy when building A pc of your own, it's a mdpc
maybe the pc cost you only 500 dollars, maybe the pc is not welcomed by all the people, but when you build that, you feel happy, when your friends come to see you, you can say with pride: hey, it's really my own pc! you can
never see another pc like this on earth!
your mdpc may be ugly, but once it includes your precious hard work , and your unique thoughts.
and that is your mdpc,


ps: sorry for my bad english and thanks for your patience.

[lkiller123]

Very good 295GTX, I love your analysis.

[matsjuw]

MDPC to me is like Nils said himself, systems that were put together, not to be an MDPC in particular, but with perfect and flawless execution.
Systems that make you drewl or drop your jaw to the ground.

Although only VirtualRain is my one and only idol. If I had the money that case would deserve it's million dollars.
It's not all about skills, it's about eye to details and executing every step with the most acurate precision.
The beauty of the MDPC cases are something unexplainable, there's no word to describe how they look.
Taste isn't a factor on MDPC cases, they are everybodies taste. Even people who prefer shiny UV lights have their jaw dropped by seeing an all B&W build which was perfectly designed.

Just keep in mind that you don't have to be on the MDPC website to have an MDPC system put together. There are so many systems that definately deserve to be called MDPC.

[grasskicker509]

it's about celebrating the OCD folks who can go through re-sleeving everything without going crazy

+1, since i dont have OCD i cannot sleeve anything...ahaha...looks hella nice though