HD 4890 and GTX 275 Reviews

[Talonman]

I'm afraid that is YOUR outlook.

The stock 4890 and the OC 4890 is a SEPARATE card, and a SEPARATE product. If you had to manually OC a 4890 and then compare with a GTX 285 then you're right, but when it comes pre-OCed then the user does not have to manually OC it and thus 1Ghz is the STOCK speeds of the card. Here:

Regular 4890: STOCK SPEEDS: 850/975
4890 OC: STOCK SPEEDS: 1,000/1,100

See my point. They are two different products, and the 4890 OC is a great product when compared to the 285

Perkam

So running against a 285 FTW would have been a good test too.

[perkam]

So running against a 285 FTW would have been a good test too.

Go right ahead.

Once we see the results between OC 4890 and GTX 285 FTW, we'll do a price/performance see which one's better

Perkam

[Talonman]

Well if we are going to switch gears and go price... you win.

I was only talking pure performance.

It is a good bang for the buck card. I wouldn't even kid about that.

[perkam]

Well if we are going to switch gears and go price... you win.

I was only talking pure performance.

It is a good bang for the buck card. I wouldn't even kid about that.

Well you could compare the 295 to the 4890 and Ofcourse the 295 is faster

The point is, within the same price range.

Oh and...Holy Hell 0_o: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tx%20285%20ftw

Should be called Price gouging FTW.

Perkam

[Talonman]

Quality GPU's that run both Graphics anf PhysX, dont come cheep!

Also the EVGA brand with Step Up option...

Service and support from EVGA is second to none...

Able to replace the stock cooling, and still have warranty in tact...

All extra $$$, but worth it to some. (Like me)

[SKYMTL]

Canadian pricing for a GTX 275 FTW is within the same range as the HD 4890 1Ghz in the US.

FTW: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...VGA-_-14130479

HD 4890 1Ghz in USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102839

The correct pricing makes the Sapphire HD 4890 Atomic 1Ghz the same price or slightly higher than the EVGA GTX 275 FTW yet performance is pretty much the same.

[perkam]

Canadian pricing for a GTX 275 FTW is within the same range as the HD 4890 1Ghz in the US.

FTW: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...VGA-_-14130479

The link I have was 285 FTW, sky, not 275 FTW.

The price is correct. Here is the Canadian price for the 285 FTW: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...tx%20285%20ftw

Perkam

[SKYMTL]

The link I have was 285 FTW, sky, not 275 FTW.

The price is correct. Here is the Canadian price for the 285 FTW: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...tx%20285%20ftw

Perkam

Somehow you replied in the 30 seconds it took me to edit my post.

[perkam]

Somehow you replied in the 30 seconds it took me to edit my post.

Well. If Bachus is called the Blitz Mod, then I guess you can call me "Speed Poster". I'll even talk like in the cartoon

Perkam

[SKYMTL]

Yeah, after benching the GTX 275 FTW for the Roundup, yesterday I started the HD 4890 roundup. I kept the GTX 275 FTW in the charts and the Atomic lines up with it very well performance-wise.

[Talonman]

Throw a PhysX game in there too...

No site has the gonads to do that.

Be the first.

[SKYMTL]

Throw a PhysX game in there too...

No site has the gonads to do that.

Be the first.

There are some sites that do.

We don't do it because none of us has played a PhysX title that is worth the disk it was printed on. Mirror's Edge is the lone exception but in its non-PhysX form it is hardly that demanding on GPUs. What else is there? Bionic Commando? Sacred 2? Warmonger? Ugh.

At this point everyone already knows how non-Nvidia cards will be absolutely crippled by PhysX implementation so I don't really see the need to beat a dead horse.

If one of these days a game is released with PhysX that is worth playing for more than 5 minutes, it will be included. Until then, they will all get lumped into one PhysX article that will be released when it is ready.

[Talonman]

Cryostasys...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1420948

A good read, written by a smart guy.

[perkam]

Throw a PhysX game in there too...

No site has the gonads to do that.

Be the first.

I agree

Let's have Physx on for Nvidia cards and DX10.1 on for ATI cards for people to make their own buying decisions

Remember though that both will be deemed useless by DX11, which will have performance optimizations and its own built in physics API.

Perkam

[Talonman]

Super idea...

Lets see what makes the better gaming experience.

I also like the fact that when you buy a 300 and use it for Graphics, you can still use your 280 for dedicated PhysX.

Then Nvidia still has the best of both worlds.

What will ATI do then.

[perkam]

Super idea...

Lets see what makes the better gaming experience.

I also like the fact that when you buy a 300 and use it for Graphics, you can still use your 280 for dedicated PhysX.

Then Nvidia still has the best of both worlds.

What will ATI do then.

Tell their customers that they'll do their physics on GPU just fine like the rest of the DX 11 cards?

Buying an extra card for Physx has never taken off now. What makes you think it will take off with DX 11 cards?

Perkam

[Talonman]

I will believe it when I see it...

Will the largest game makers in the world, who are currently making PhysX games for Nvidia, even work their magic with DX11 physics?

Probably not. ATI will have to do some leg work to get some people on the physics train too.

FYI - PhysX is currently the only multi-threaded physics solution.

"Buying an extra card for Physx has never taken off now. What makes you think it will take off with DX 11 cards?"

1 - It takes time to develop quality games... Nvidia hasent had PhysX that long... They will arrive.

2 - Animal speed that a dedicated PhysX card brings, that gives you higher FPS in PhysX games, faster video transcoding, better performance in folding, and probably the 3D glasses too.

[grimREEFER]

in the long run, when dx11 cards come out, the differences between the gtx275 and 4890 are gonna seem so minuscule when they themselves are getting dwarfed.

[randomizer]

1 - It takes time to develop quality games...

Yea, in the last 5 years almost nothing has come out. And for 3D Realms 12 years wasn't enough.

[Talonman]

More bad info...

Nvidia hasen't had PhysX for 5 years...

Agiea runing the show was a joke. Check your info.

Let me help you out...

Author: Josh Walrath
Date: Feb 04, 2008
Subject: Graphics Card
Manufacturer: NVIDIA

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=515

[perkam]

More bad info...

Nvidia hasen't had PhysX for 5 years...

Agiea runing the show was a joke. Check your info.

Let me help you out...

Author: Josh Walrath
Date: Feb 04, 2008
Subject: Graphics Card
Manufacturer: NVIDIA

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=515

May 6th, 2009

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3558



Perkam

[Talonman]

Still not 5 years...

Thanks for more conformation.

[randomizer]

Nvidia hasen't had PhysX for 5 years...

I never said they did.

[Talonman]

1 - It takes time to develop quality games... Nvidia hasent had PhysX that long... They will arrive.

Well I did, so I don't know who you were talking to then... odd!

[randomizer]

Look at my quote. I was specifically targeting the comment on time to develop quality games. It doesn't matter if they have PhysX or not, most games just plain suck.