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Thread: Test report Apogee GTZ vs. Koolance 350 vs. HeatKiller 3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    If when I say that the vast majority of users do not lap their processor, and that tests performed on lapped processor do not represent fair test conditions, then so be it: I do take exception to that data. [edit and clarification: the data is reported as gathered, but it's just flawed, unbeknownst to the tester]

    Incidentally, I do realize that this is no different than you saying that I conducted my tests in a limited environment that is not representative of the average user. I accept this criticism. The difference being that I warned users in my introduction that the test conditions were aimed at Xtreme members. What I take exception to is you misrepresenting my intentions. They were clearly stated.
    I stand behind what I say Gabe. And you said "aimed at Xtreme members" which would indicate that for that audience your tests are invalid since your testbed is not representative of "most" extreme users. Had you said they were "aimed at users who run lower flow loops with multiple blocks" it would be QUITE different. As it is the purpose of your test is to state that the GTZ block is the better block for the majority of XS users, which is untrue, based on your test conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by santiagodraco View Post
    I stand behind what I say Gabe. And you said "aimed at Xtreme members" which would indicate that for that audience your tests are invalid since your testbed is not representative of "most" extreme users. Had you said they were "aimed at users who run lower flow loops with multiple blocks" it would be QUITE different. As it is the purpose of your test is to state that the GTZ block is the better block for the majority of XS users, which is untrue, based on your test conditions.
    so how would YOU propose the loop be set up to suit most members of XS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
    so how would YOU propose the loop be set up to suit most members of XS?
    I think the common denominator that seems to be missing is testing with these conditions:

    1. Varying flow rates from off the shelf pumps.
    2. Single radiator and single pump configuation.

    The use of multiple blocks is certainly true to how most XS users are configured, including myself, so I'm not sure that needs to be changed. I guess purists would suggest that a product be tested alone, so It might be nice to see the same tests with and without a GPU block (since there's something like 30ish% of XS users that run that way).

    If you are interested here's the link to the current survey results that show how 62 XS readers have their WC setups configured: Survey Results XS WC Users
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