TFC Monsta - Need a laugh?

[DarthBeavis]

@BH: I would think spacers would be ideal.

@DB: i took a whole bunch but that was the only one that came out clear, ill take a few more when i get home tomorrow.
Where would you like me to focus, ill try to get them best i can.

side view please

[NaeKuh]

it looks like the casing is broken.

[bluehaze]

What exactly do i need to get? I just placed the order with FrozenCPU not but 15 minutes or so ago, would like to call and get them to add whatever I need to the order but I can't find any kind of spacers on thier site, is there another name for them?

[Waterlogged]

What exactly do i need to get? I just placed the order with FrozenCPU not but 15 minutes or so ago, would like to call and get them to add whatever I need to the order but I can't find any kind of spacers on thier site, is there another name for them?

You don't need the spacers.


@affiliate13, the only time I've seen that kind of damage done is when some kind of major shock is applied to the mounting bung (dropping the rad on it, hitting a fitting on something hard). That certainly doesn't look like it's from over tightening. I can also see a wear ring from the o-ring so that looks like it was properly seated to start with. You probably just opened the crack up further when you used the pliers.

[affiliate13]

@BH:
I have some i got with my XSPC Razors to stop the inlet out lets getting blocked by long threads.
Not sure if there is another name for them.
Wish i thought to use try them tbh.

@WL:
If thats the case then it must have happened at the factory as the box was undamaged and the packing from the supplier was good.

Ill take more shots when i get home tomorrow so you guys can get a better view of this.

[bluehaze]

You don't need the spacers.

OK Thanks, cus I can't find them!

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

you might want to try to call JB weld if the seller wont do nothing about it anyhow do you guys know how to make the radiator black again after some of the paint chips off without making it look too ghetto? I have some marks on my rad also like that....where the black chipped off.

Yes sorry ive been flat out last few days. See below.

Here you can see the damage, i hasten to point out that i would not have tightened the fittings to cause this if i had known they were aprox 2mm too thick. It was on the second attempt with the comp fittings when i used the pliers thinking they were not on securely enough having checked the hoses already.

So here you can see circled where the paint has split at the base of the thread housing/collar where the liquid was seeping out, however the liquid must have been coming out from under the the thread of the comp fittings (seal must not have been making contact with thread housing)prior to me over tightening them on the second attempt - trying to fix one issue created the other i think, you can also see where the base of the fittings had levered against the slanted end of the rad.

Enjoy!

[affiliate13]

side view please

Hey DB, with my zoom and macro this is as good as i can get:


If you need another ill try again with my friends camera, it gets shipped away on Wednesday.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

a photo tip for you mate - you just need more light and your macro will easier find the focus points it needs and you will be able to get close like you want. get a few lamps together or even take it outside in the day time to get the light you need - remember flash is not the answer

[kinghong1970]

- remember flash is not the answer

seriously... i've been taking a PhD (Press Here Dummy) camera for my business trips wehre i have to take hundreds of shots of runway/models/apparel/shoes and dicovered that no-flash yields much MUCH nicer pics...

only in that the point and clicks shutter stays open longer and i get lot more blurry pics...

now i have a Rebel XSi and pics with no flash is just amazing!


just to derail a thread here and there...

[affiliate13]

Had another crack at it.
With flash and without.

[bluehaze]

Looks like the fitting was hitting the rad and when you screwed it tight it pulled up on the port you were screwing it into making the crack? I take it 3/4compression won't fit without hitting the rad where you have the paint chipped off? If so i am going to have to get some 45's or something in order to use my 3/4 compressions :/

[NaeKuh]

that spells RMA

RMA it.

[Sadasius]

Ahhhh, I see what happened. Used pliers or something to screw the fitting down and it used the edge of the rad as leverage to move the bung hole and crack the weld. Good to know actually that the side can interfere with fittings.

That's right...I said it....You broke your bunghole!

[Brother Esau]

I thought i would use TFC 1/2" ID 3/4OD Compression fittings on my TFC Monsta rad. This was a mistake.

When i was leak testing i noticed some tiny drips around the bottom of both fittings so i stopped the pump and they seemed finger tight as they were but i thought ok they need to be tighter so i gave them each a 1/2 turn with my pliers and turned on the pump, same thing little drips.

I though the hoses may have slipped but i was pretty careful putting them on so i decided to check and dismounted the rad and took off the fittings, hoses were fine, i tightened everything up as best i could and tried again, same thing.

Annoyed i took it off and stuck on some DD FatBoy 1/2" Barbs w/ jubilee clips and worse luck a bigger drip, at this point i was freakin out so i tried some EK 1/2"ers i had spare and again drips.

So since i thought it was something to do with the threads on that side on the monsta i flipped it over and put the fittings on the other side, guess what no drips. Yay! only no, not Yay! 2 mins later and 1lr approx of fluid pumped in there is a hissing coming fromt the other side of the rad at the holes i have the plugs in and a trickle rapidly dribbling out. I freaked stopped the pump....ooops didnt get the restop plug in quick enough and the whole bottom of the case floods with liquid. Disaster.

Well long story short the base of the thread housing for the 1/4" fittings had hairline cracks on both sides.
I was livid, i really dont think i over tightened these, but i suppose i must have.

Result, one wrecked Monsta.

If using TFC 1/2" comp fittings make sure they dont lever the thread housing against the body of the rad and create these hairline cracks.

I cant find any info on the Feser site stating that they are not compatible, as they look just like they are and unless i have herculean strength i am unaware of then i cant see exactly what i did.

Anyhoo after two hours of mopping and kicking things i can now see the funny side...

I have used DD Fat Boy Barbs on my FESER 360 and not any issues I would say the RAD is defective send it back and get a replacement

[Sadasius]

Looks like extensions are a must when using larger fittings on this rad to clear that edge.

[Eddie3dfx]

The bunghole is cracked. Send the broken radiator and bunghole back to fester (LOL.. i love that name)

[lennox]

that's hilarious that Feser's own fittings don't fit. they should spend less time photoshopping frogs and more time paying attention to the details. fail?

[Sly Fox]

that's hilarious that Feser's own fittings don't fit. they should spend less time photoshopping frogs and more time paying attention to the details. fail?

Who needs research and testing when you can just send threatening letters to those who oppose you?

[DarthBeavis]

Who needs research and testing when you can just send threatening letters to those who oppose you?

Could be worse. At least no one is claiming water-boarding was involved. Well, if water-boarding was involved there better have been no 90 fittings in the plumbing and surely no mixed metals.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

Who needs research and testing when you can just send threatening letters to those who oppose you?

or they DONT RESPOND AT ALL!!!!!!

[Waterlogged]

affiliate13, I take back what I said earlier in the topic.

Looks like the fitting was hitting the rad and when you screwed it tight it pulled up on the port you were screwing it into making the crack? I take it 3/4compression won't fit without hitting the rad where you have the paint chipped off? If so i am going to have to get some 45's or something in order to use my 3/4 compressions :/

Seeing these better pics, I now believe ^^this^^ is what happened.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

affiliate13, I take back what I said earlier in the topic.




Seeing these better pics, I now believe ^^this^^ is what happened.

how can the fesers own fittings hit it? Unless it was manufactured wrong as in the holes way to close to the curve there.

[Waterlogged]

how can the fesers own fittings hit it? Unless it was manufactured wrong as in the holes way to close to the curve there.

BAH! I'm not sure what to think about this anymore. The whole thing looks poorly designed in that area to me. It could have been done by the Fester fittings, or the pliers, or the WC gremlins that run around randomly wrecking everyones builds. I simply don't know anymore.

[hellcamino]

BAH! I'm not sure what to think about this anymore. The whole thing looks poorly designed in that area to me. It could have been done by the Fester fittings, or the pliers, or the WC gremlins that run around randomly wrecking everyones builds. I simply don't know anymore.

Those two marks on the tank are in line with the knurling for the fitting, if they were made by the fitting it would be one continuous mark. Sorry for the OP but it looks to me like he screwed up the radiator with a tool, most likely needle-nose pliers from looking at the pics. If you look at the marks you can see that they are heavily gouged by something in two very distinct places inconsistent with what the knurling would cause.

There is nothing wrong with the design, sorry OP it sucks for you but if you actually get an rma you should be singing praises for whoever gives it to you!