Low End Radiators for just 40 Bucks from Feser ?! Yes ! :)

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 12:50 AM

First pics and specs of early samples:

Dual- und Triple Version

incl. Silikon Pads and Screws

Slim Rads, 28 mm

ca. 34 Euro for the Triple Version

**Kibbler** · 05-15-2009, 01:00 AM

Looks like a BI Pro. Always nice to have more options I suppose

(direct flash is really bad for product photography...tends to exaggerate surface imperfections)

**~~LOUISSSSS~~** · 05-15-2009, 01:09 AM

damn how do u get this kind of info???

interested to see how this plays out but probably wont need any radiators for a while, got 2 triples in my case already

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS

damn how do u get this kind of info???

I get those Pics and Infos directly from the source, coz i´m in good contact with some watercooling companies

You might know my reviews, which i release worldwide in the biggest forums.

**~~LOUISSSSS~~** · 05-15-2009, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by bundymania

I get those Pics and Infos directly from the source, coz i´m in good contact with some watercooling companies

You might know my reviews, which i release worldwide in the biggest forums.

oh haha i'm new to the WC scene and new to XS here, nice to meet you, where can i find your reviews? i'd love to take a look

**Mech0z** · 05-15-2009, 01:29 AM

What fpi ?

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 01:35 AM

@Louisssss: some of my reviews - use google translator pls

**Zehnsucht** · 05-15-2009, 01:44 AM

In my opinion, it's very counter-productive to claim to be a tester, and at the same time have so good connections with one company that it allows you to post product-images before they are released to hype them. In my eyes, all tests you do involving fesser products will be slightly biased. This may or may not be true, but that is how I feel about it.

**Waterlogged** · 05-15-2009, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Zehnsucht

In my opinion, it's very counter-productive to claim to be a tester, and at the same time have so good connections with one company that it allows you to post product-images before they are released to hype them. In my eyes, all tests you do involving fesser products will be slightly biased. This may or may not be true, but that is how I feel about it.

Your being far to polite in your assessment, call it what it really is.

**tool_462** · 05-15-2009, 02:02 AM

All review sites have "good enough connections with companies" to get stuff pre-release to do reviews on...its somewhat unavoidable unless you want everybody to wait till release day to buy their own and wait for "unbiased" forum publications

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 02:11 AM

@Zehnsucht: i´m in contact with most of the watercooling companies, not just feser. i´m in the h20 scene since 8 years now

compare my results (especially feser products) with others and you'll see that they are very similar. Personally, I have no interest in any brand to be preferred! I post the things I get from the companies.

@tool:462: yeah, right - normal procedure !

**tool_462** · 05-15-2009, 02:16 AM

I'm probably just in your boat bundy because I write reviews for a small-ish/upcoming site and a few companies like sending me stuff ahead of time, which I show no preference for. I've already told them that if the product sucks I'll say it sucks

**JOCKTHEGLIDE** · 05-15-2009, 02:17 AM

Ill stack these beotches with the monsta radiator...whoo hoo....why not.

**~~LOUISSSSS~~** · 05-15-2009, 02:19 AM

uh.. you did NOT need to post every one of your reviews lol... page hits ++?

**Mech0z** · 05-15-2009, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS

uh.. you did NOT need to post every one of your reviews lol... page hits ++?

Well I found a couple of interesting product reviews, so it was useful to me

btw http://translate.google.dk/translate_t# ftw my german sucks

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 02:38 AM

@Tool_462: yep, it´s ok and the right way. There are always people who question the results of reviews and that Feser particularly here in XS do not have only friends, is well known and ok

In countres like italy, i was flamed, coz "their" Ybris CPU Waterblock is not Nr. 1 in my last test, so many guys wants to see their "own" products in front, which is made where
they live. There is always something about Patriotism in those comments

**Zehnsucht** · 05-15-2009, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by bundymania

i´m in contact with most of the watercooling companies, not just feser. i´m in the h20 scene since 8 years now

compare my results (especially feser products) with others and you'll see that they are very similar. Personally, I have no interest in any brand to be preferred! I post the things I get from the companies.

While I do not object to posting new products per se, it is the fact that you'll probably also test them that I dislike.
How is your initial post different from:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=200683
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=212241

There are more from other vendors, I just didn't manage to search so extensively.

These are posts made to create a hype around new and unreleased products. It's kind of free PR posting it in this forum.

It would have been a completely different matter if you had actually tested it, but now it just looks like PR.

Fesser shouldn't be using you for posting upcoming products, they should make an account by themselves. Because, as I said earlier, it hurts your creditability.

**bundymania** · 05-15-2009, 04:02 AM

i post (teaser) pictures from most new products i get for tests from all the companies, but not so often here in XS, because the watercooling picture thread is for complete rigs only

just check some pictures threads at huge german forums, and you understand, what i mean

http://forum.effizienzgurus.de/f23/w...e-t197-66.html

*|T2D|*PopovS · 05-15-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Zehnsucht

It would have been a completely different matter if you had actually tested it, but now it just looks like PR.

Interesting point of view....

I'm always welcome to see prototypes and new products.

If test are good it is just a bonus.

**systemviper** · 05-15-2009, 05:02 AM

hey nice reviews, plus in this biz it's kinda tough to get freebies without having a relationship,
but i can still see some people being straight up with the reviews

nice work!

**SNiiPE_DoGG** · 05-15-2009, 06:27 AM

mmmm cheap chinese made radiators with "made in germany" stickers - dont ya love it folks!?

**mhw100** · 05-15-2009, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

mmmm cheap chinese made radiators with "made in germany" stickers - dont ya love it folks!?

I think the way Feser gets away with that is they paint them in Germany even though they're made in China. A common deception.

**kinghong1970** · 05-15-2009, 07:58 AM

really?

that's a major violation...

if it is assembled in xyz
finished in a different country, it should clearly state so...

iirc the fines are HEFTY per violation...

garments used to be made in russia/china/vietnam and gets imported under Korean country of origin... the companies that do get busted... gets blacklisted by customs and going to pretty much go through hell to import again...

**Mech0z** · 05-15-2009, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by kinghong1970

really?

that's a major violation...

if it is assembled in xyz
finished in a different country, it should clearly state so...

iirc the fines are HEFTY per violation...

garments used to be made in russia/china/vietnam and gets imported under Korean country of origin... the companies that do get busted... gets blacklisted by customs and going to pretty much go through hell to import again...

Well maybe the drawings are "Made in Germany" ?

**naokaji** · 05-15-2009, 11:05 AM

Cheap low end and WC just does not go together, sorry, but I predict very poor results for those rads.

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