MMM
Page 4 of 18 FirstFirst 123456714 ... LastLast
Results 76 to 100 of 433

Thread: HD 4770 Previews/Reviews

  1. #76
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    'Zona
    Posts
    2,346
    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    If you can charge $99 with the crappy cooler or $109 with the good one, considering those costs, which one is going to be better? It's too obvious
    When you plan on selling 200k cards, the price difference can add up quickly.
    Remember these cards/coolers are just for the initial launch, AIBs can design their own cards/coolers.
    Originally Posted by motown_steve
    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

  2. #77
    Engineering The Xtreme
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    MA, USA
    Posts
    7,217
    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich View Post
    If you can charge $99 with the crappy cooler or $109 with the good one, considering those costs, which one is going to be better? It's too obvious
    there is a LOT to be said about the "$99" price point - a product with 3 digits in the price tag is guaranteed to sell less units. period.

  3. #78
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Thessaloniki, Greece
    Posts
    1,307
    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    Remember these cards/coolers are just for the initial launch, AIBs can design their own cards/coolers.
    Or you could just put a 3rd party cooler on it. I know that at least the Zalmans wil/should work.
    I want a single-slot vapor chamber cooler. Sapphire are you listening?
    Last edited by BrowncoatGR; 04-26-2009 at 09:17 PM.
    Seems we made our greatest error when we named it at the start
    for though we called it "Human Nature" - it was cancer of the heart
    CPU: AMD X3 720BE@ 3,4Ghz
    Cooler: Xigmatek S1283(Terrible mounting system for AM2/3)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P(F4) RAM: 2x 2GB OCZ DDR3 1600Mhz Gold 8-8-8-24
    GPU:HD5850 1GB
    PSU: Seasonic M12D 750W Case: Coolermaster HAF932(aka Dusty )

  4. #79
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Saskatchewan, Canada
    Posts
    2,207
    Isn't the 4850 $129. It would be absolutely ridiculous to make overclocked models that are 30 dollars more expensive than their regular counterparts.

    I know there's a recession and all but is 50 dollars that much to spend to get a 4870.

    I also think it ridiculous that people upgrade from a 8800gt to one of these cards. As a 20% increase does not warrant a upgrade.
    Last edited by tajoh111; 04-26-2009 at 09:28 PM.

  5. #80
    Engineering The Xtreme
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    MA, USA
    Posts
    7,217
    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    Isn't the 4850 $129. It would be absolutely ridiculous to make overclocked models that are 30 dollars more expensive than their regular counterparts.

    I know there's a recession and all but is 50 dollars that much to spend to get a 4870.

    I also think it ridiculous that people upgrade from a 8800gt to one of these cards. As a 20% increase does not warrant a upgrade.
    lol, $99 for:
    - 20% more performance across the board (more in high quality settings)
    - a dx10.1 card that can do more dx11 functions
    - a card that runs cooler, and uses less power


    ..... definitely not worth it

  6. #81
    Xtreme Guru
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Vancouver, Canada
    Posts
    3,858
    Quote Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG View Post
    there is a LOT to be said about the "$99" price point - a product with 3 digits in the price tag is guaranteed to sell less units. period.
    The heatsink is already designed and ready. There is a market for them (i.e. anyone who wants silence / low temps / good overclocking). If they don't sell them, it would be a shame.

    Oh, and the "goddamn noobs" (and people who do not need a good cooling solution for some reason) can have their $99 card too.
    i5 750 4.20GHz @ NH-D14 | 8GB | P7P55DLE | 8800U | Indilinx SSD + Samsung F3 | HAF922 + CM750W
    Past: Q6600 @ 3.60 E6400 @ 3.60 | E6300 @ 3.40 | O165 @ 2.90 | X2 4400+ @ 2.80 | X2 3800+ @ 2.70 | VE 3200+ @ 2.80 | WI 3200+ @ 2.75 | WI 3000+ no IHS @ 2.72 | TBB 1700+ @ 2.60 | XP-M 2500+ @ 2.63 | NC 2800+ @ 2.40 | AB 1.60GHz @ 2.60
    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.

  7. #82
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    89
    I'm going from a 8800gt to to of these. I did'nt buy my P5E for nothing. I can sell my 800gt & thermalright HR 03 GT fr R1000 ($100) & jus add the rest for another 4770. The cheapest 4870 512MB in South Africa costs $260, the cheapest GTX250 $380, so you can imagine what the high end gpu's go for.

    I'm definitely going to crossfire two 4770's I'm getting my 2 Dangerden Mazew 4 during the week, so i will be watercooling these babies

  8. #83
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    351
    Last edited by Tuvok-LuR-; 04-27-2009 at 01:23 AM.
    3570K @ 4.5Ghz | Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H | 7970 Ghz 1100/6000 | 256GB Samsung 830 SSD (Win 7) | 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (OSX 10.8.3) | 16GB Vengeance 1600 | 24'' Dell U2412M | Corsair Carbide 300R

  9. #84
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    7,747
    Power consumption is really horrible compared to a higher performing 4850 in that review. And Idle....yuck

    GDDR5+40nm=Phail!
    Crunching for Comrades and the Common good of the People.

  10. #85
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    62
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    Power consumption is really horrible compared to a higher performing 4850 in that review. And Idle....yuck

    GDDR5+40nm=Phail!
    u mean consuming less then 9600GT is fail? More looks like Shintai = reading skills phail

  11. #86
    Xtreme Cruncher
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    7,747
    Quote Originally Posted by blaH View Post
    u mean consuming less then 9600GT is fail? More looks like Shintai = reading skills phail
    And the 9600GT is a 55nm part thats over a year old.

    One of the biggest issues with HD4770 is the missing idle mode(Powerplay?). It runs at full clock even idle. And specially GDDR5 is a pig.

    Hopefully AMD fixes this for idlemode atleast. And we can only hope for lower voltage GDDR5 soon.
    Last edited by Shintai; 04-27-2009 at 01:55 AM.
    Crunching for Comrades and the Common good of the People.

  12. #87
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Devon
    Posts
    3,437
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    Power consumption is really horrible compared to a higher performing 4850 in that review. And Idle....yuck

    GDDR5+40nm=Phail!
    I can understand that you have really high expectations, so I would say wait for 4750 GDDR3 based. I know it will have only around 32GB/s bandwidth, but power consumption numbers should be excellent. For HTPC computers it should be a winner.
    RiG1: Ryzen 7 1700 @4.0GHz 1.39V, Asus X370 Prime, G.Skill RipJaws 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 Samsung B-die, TuL Vega 56 Stock, Samsung SS805 100GB SLC SDD (OS Drive) + 512GB Evo 850 SSD (2nd OS Drive) + 3TB Seagate + 1TB Seagate, BeQuiet PowerZone 1000W

    RiG2: HTPC AMD A10-7850K APU, 2x8GB Kingstone HyperX 2400C12, AsRock FM2A88M Extreme4+, 128GB SSD + 640GB Samsung 7200, LG Blu-ray Recorder, Thermaltake BACH, Hiper 4M880 880W PSU

    SmartPhone Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE
    XBONE paired with 55'' Samsung LED 3D TV

  13. #88
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,341
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    And the 9600GT is a 55nm part thats over a year old.

    One of the biggest issues with HD4770 is the missing idle mode(Powerplay?). It runs at full clock even idle. And specially GDDR5 is a pig.

    Hopefully AMD fixes this for idlemode atleast. And we can only hope for lower voltage GDDR5 soon.
    for customer:
    equal or better performance between 4830-4850
    about 10% reduced idle and 20% load
    less heat
    huge reduced price

    for amd:
    way lower production costs
    lower pcb cost
    testing of new process

    again very well based comments you make as usual.
    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Fanboyitis..
    Comes in two variations and both deadly.
    There's the green strain and the blue strain on CPU.. There's the red strain and the green strain on GPU..

  14. #89
    Xtreme Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    London
    Posts
    577
    Quote Originally Posted by duploxxx View Post
    again very well based comments you make as usual.


    maybe the final review samples will further reduce idle power consumption?

    In case, it looks to be the perfect <$100 card
    i7 920@4.34 | Rampage II GENE | 6GB OCZ Reaper 1866 | 8800GT (zzz) | Corsair AX750 | Xonar Essence ST w/ 3x LME49720 | HiFiMAN EF2 Amplifier | Shure SRH840 | EK Supreme HF | Thermochill PA 120.3 | MCP355 | XSPC Reservoir | 3/8" ID Tubing

    Phenom 9950BE @ 3400/2000 (CPU/NB) | Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H | HD4850 | 4GB Corsair DHX @850 | Corsair TX650W | T.R.U.E Push-Pull

    E2160 @3.06 | ASUS P5K-Pro | BFG 8800GT | 4GB G.Skill @ 1040 | 600W Tt PP

    A64 3000+ @2.87 | DFI-NF4 | 7800 GTX | Patriot 1GB DDR @610 | 550W FSP

  15. #90
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    89
    I wish we could see some results with them in crossfire.

    Can someone plz explain to me how the memory sharing(?) works. If i have two cards with both 512MB, do i only have 512MB usable for both cards? So is the official release tommorow or during the first week of may?

  16. #91
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Russia. Moscow
    Posts
    15
    4770@875.1125


  17. #92
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    89
    Nice Rasamaha! Is that with stock cooling?

  18. #93
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Russia. Moscow
    Posts
    15
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadkiller View Post
    Nice Rasamaha! Is that with stock cooling?
    Yep! in auto mode! so it's not 100% of coller

  19. #94
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Lansing, MI / London / Stinkaypore
    Posts
    1,788
    O-m-g.
    Quote Originally Posted by radaja View Post
    so are they launching BD soon or a comic book?

  20. #95
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    89
    I only saw the mem speed now! 4500MHz effectively! I can't wait to get my hands on this. I'm sure there will be some super clocks!

    Is there someway to test the bandwith of the mem on the gpu? i'm sure the 128bit won't matter so much anymore

  21. #96
    Xtreme Addict
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    1,870
    No need to test it, it's 72GB/s ~ GTS 250.

  22. #97
    Xtreme Mentor
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Devon
    Posts
    3,437
    This card is shaping up nicely!

    So who is going to put it under LN2 first?
    RiG1: Ryzen 7 1700 @4.0GHz 1.39V, Asus X370 Prime, G.Skill RipJaws 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 Samsung B-die, TuL Vega 56 Stock, Samsung SS805 100GB SLC SDD (OS Drive) + 512GB Evo 850 SSD (2nd OS Drive) + 3TB Seagate + 1TB Seagate, BeQuiet PowerZone 1000W

    RiG2: HTPC AMD A10-7850K APU, 2x8GB Kingstone HyperX 2400C12, AsRock FM2A88M Extreme4+, 128GB SSD + 640GB Samsung 7200, LG Blu-ray Recorder, Thermaltake BACH, Hiper 4M880 880W PSU

    SmartPhone Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE
    XBONE paired with 55'' Samsung LED 3D TV

  23. #98
    Xtreme Enthusiast
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    942
    I wonder how 2 of these voltmodded and oc'ed would stand up to an overclocked gtx260 (now that they are really cheap)
    Q9550 || DFI P45 Jr || 4x 2G generic ram || 4870X2 || Aerocool M40 case || 3TB storage


  24. #99
    Xtreme Guru
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,562
    Finally got a card on Friday from an anonymous source. Then spent most of the day sending emails to my rep at ATI for drivers without a response, spent the better part of the weekend calling in favors to get the most current drivers sent to me off the grid.

    No thanks to ATI, a review will be up one way or another.

    @ Rasamaha: would you mind telling us which program you used to bypass ATI's CCC overclocking limitations?

  25. #100
    Xtreme Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    450
    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    And the 9600GT is a 55nm part thats over a year old.

    One of the biggest issues with HD4770 is the missing idle mode(Powerplay?). It runs at full clock even idle. And specially GDDR5 is a pig.

    Hopefully AMD fixes this for idlemode atleast. And we can only hope for lower voltage GDDR5 soon.
    And 4770 outperforms the 9600GT by at least 40%. Yeah, that really sounds terrible. 9600GT is a year old 55nm part - that means the 55nm process wasn't even new when it came out. This is the first 40nm card and it performs like this.

    But sure, the idle consumption is a . Can't someone reviewing it PLEASE downclock the GDDR5 in idle and measure the power consumption.

Page 4 of 18 FirstFirst 123456714 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •