"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[generics_user]

i want to upgrade to a second 4870 but afaik P45 limits CF scaling due to a lack of bandwith

is anyone out there who tried to overclock the pcie bus for better CF scaling?

it should be possible but is there a risk of hard-drive corruption or sound issues and how high can i go without the risk of sata controller problems?

[Big Lar]

@ lexus232 Try the CPU PLL a tad higher, maybe 1.54 to 1.56v. Also what Performance Level are you using? Maybe try 8 to 9 if on a divider, 10 if running 1:1. May need to adjust GTL for the NB, perhaps the CPU GTL's as well.

That memory voltage of 2.1 may be a bit high, 2.1v in the Deluxe board gives an actual of about 2.18v on the earlier bios anyhow. Not sure on your bios version.

Larry

[lexus232]

@ lexus232 Try the CPU PLL a tad higher, maybe 1.54 to 1.56v. Also what Performance Level are you using? Maybe try 8 to 9 if on a divider, 10 if running 1:1. May need to adjust GTL for the NB, perhaps the CPU GTL's as well.

That memory voltage of 2.1 may be a bit high, 2.1v in the Deluxe board gives an actual of about 2.18v on the earlier bios anyhow. Not sure on your bios version.

Larry

im using PL 10 and running 1:1. I tried to rise NB GTL a bit (tried all settins between 0.58 and 0.61), but then system fails in tests. If i set nb gtl to 0.7, system even dont want to boot. What cpu gtl setting you can recommend?
Thanks.

[jdmR]

try the nb gtl at .625 or .620

[Brandito]

every time i completely turn off my rig including shutting off power to the power supply all my bios settings are lost.

luckily i can reload from the 2 oc profiles, but this is a big problem as you can imagine.

i've tried replacing the cmos battery but that didn't help. even variefied that the old and new batteries still had juice with a multi-meter. the original battery actually had more voltage still left to it. either way neither seemed to be the problem.

any ideas what might be causing this? i've had this board for about a year now.

when i first got it one of the bios chips seemed to be corrupted or faulty. it was the main chip actually, not the backup. every time i'd cold boot it'd want to recover the bios from the second chip, so what i did was hot swapped the two and that problem was solved...sorta. i would be SOL if i got a bad flash, but no more recovering every boot.

that's the only other thing i can think of that's remotely related to my current problem.

anyone have any idea what might be causing the reset?

btw the settings are only lost after a complete power loss, regualr reboots and power downs are no issue.

[BababooeyHTJ]

You may want to consider hotflashing the corrupt bios chip and try an updated bios.

[Brandito]

You may want to consider hotflashing the corrupt bios chip and try an updated bios.

i'm really more concerned about the cold boot problem. it's strange because the system has been perfectly stable otherwise. had multiple torture test run at these very settings without a hitch. intel burn test as well as prime95 both proved it stable, the latter for 12+ hours.

besides, i think the bios chip itself is bad, not so much a bad flash but just bad in general. i mean that's the only thing that makes sense to me as it would need to be reflashed after every cold boot. it was getting the new bios from the old chip, which worked fine after i swapped them. asus said no to sending me a new bios chip as well.

i'm wondering if maybe i just got a buggy board all round.

there was the bios problem, now these new cold boot issues, and i also was having major trouble with the bottom lan port, the one on the pci-e bus i believe. with that the system would lock up any time i transferred files from the p5q deluxe to any other computer. switched to the other lan and problem went away.

to add to that my q6600 started out at 3.5ghz, stress tested the hell out of it, 12+ hours of priming, might have even done 24 and no issues, then after about 6 months my games started crashing, so i did some testing and found i needed to drop it to 3.4ghz, just lowered the fsb from 438-425 and got it prime stable again.

as you can see i've had a few issues, but never attributed them to a bad board overall, i'm still not sure my cpu overclock might have just went south from my thermal compound going bad (used ocz freeze) or even the cpu going bad itself. however adding it all together i might end up contacting asus for a new board.

what is asus's warranty period on mobos? like i said i've had this one almost a year.

[Leeghoofd]

Bad settings, ram dimm going bad ? Which bios are you on ?

[truehighroller]

@Brandito:

I have noticed that mine is starting to randomly lose it's BIOS settings as well. I have had mine for about a year or a little more now as well. It will just lose the time and everything. I can too pull from the OC Profile I have saved but none the less, kind of a pain in the arse. I'm betting I can probably reproduce the issue you speak of with this tranfering files thing as well.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Could it be something as simple as a dead or half dead cmos battery?

[truehighroller]

Maybe but, he just said his battery is fine and mine is not that old.. I trhink it is a flaw with the board it self. They have new revisions now right? That's what I want is a new revision.

[Brandito]

sorry for the late reply, i never seem to get instant notification from this forum.

anyhow, i'm on the 1805 bios

cmos battery shouldn't be the problem, i tried 2 different batteries that i tested the voltage on with a DMM

i should clarify one thing, it doesn't lose date and time when it resets, so it's probably not a cmos battery thing.

i can get it to boot into like a safe mode where it keeps all my settings, but boots with fail safe defaults. then all i need to do is go into the bios, all my settings are fine and save and restart.

i can also get it to discard all my bios settings. it still boots in a fail safe mode but when i get into the bios everything is set to auto,then i reload from an oc profile and it's fine.

the latter happens with my current oc settings. the former is trickier, i managed it by upping my ram voltage to like 2.2+v which is much higher than i'd like. i've been perfectly stable up till now with 2.02v in the bios (which comes out to 2.1 i think when tested with a DMM)

i don't think it's my ram though, maybe, i'm gonna try doing some more testing with just single dimms. i recently bought a second kit of g.skill 2x2gb to add to my current 2x2gb kit, they're both the same memory model, different heat spreaders though as one kit is a year older.

also before anyone asks i did try booting with just my original kit and same problem, i didn't go beyond that yet though (kinda got fed up with it)

i've never even run the ram at the 1066 speed it's rated for, it's always been at like 1052, or 1022, or right now 1053.

right now i'm gonna run memtest86 overnight and see what it says.

[Brandito]

well ran metest86+ 2.11 for 21+ hours with no errors. safe to say my ram is almost certainly fine.

i guess it's possible there's some other bios setting i'm missing, but like i've said this is a recent thing, and i haven't adjusted my settings in ages.

i'm almost certain now it must be the board.

i've already submitted for an rma with asus so hopefully they'll send me a new one.

anyone have experience with rma'ing boards to asus? do you just send them the old board and you're only out the shipping to them?

i'm not super concerned with my rig being down as i have a netbook, laptop and server to use in the meantime and at least 2 of those is more than good enough to meet any gaming needs i'll find

[Retro]

well ran metest86+ 2.11 for 21+ hours with no errors. safe to say my ram is almost certainly fine.

i guess it's possible there's some other bios setting i'm missing, but like i've said this is a recent thing, and i haven't adjusted my settings in ages.

i'm almost certain now it must be the board.

i've already submitted for an rma with asus so hopefully they'll send me a new one.

anyone have experience with rma'ing boards to asus? do you just send them the old board and you're only out the shipping to them?

i'm not super concerned with my rig being down as i have a netbook, laptop and server to use in the meantime and at least 2 of those is more than good enough to meet any gaming needs i'll find

When I sent in a dead board to Asus for rma a couple years ago, I just paid the shipping to them. But it took about two months, and the board they sent me was used, poorly packed, and had a lot of dust on it. It did work though.

Good luck with that

[Caped Crusader]

Hello guys, it's been a while since I posted here

I swapped my Q6700 for a Q9400 (it was a good deal and I already had a buyer for the Q6700...) and now I want to know how far he'll go for 24/7 with my 4 sticks of OCZ PC-8500

I'm new to 45nm overclocking so any help, insights, advice, would be greatly appreciated

Q9400 VID is 1.1750

I'm currently with everything on AUTO except MANUAL overclocking set to:

450 FSB
MULTI 8X
RAM at 1080Mhz

VCORE at 1.25000 (my P5Q DLX doesn't allow less - anybody knows why this happens? I cannot select manually anything below 1.2500v )
VDIMM at 1.94 (since the P5Q overvolts it, I guess it's safe to be this way... it was stable with the Q6700 so why change it, right?)

Can't remember of anything else important, except RAM SKEW on STRONGER and CPU OPTIMIZAZION on PERFORMANCE and LOADLINE CALIBRATION on AUTO.

I want to try a lower vcore while keeping the same FSB OC.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Peace.

[Brandito]

When I sent in a dead board to Asus for rma a couple years ago, I just paid the shipping to them. But it took about two months, and the board they sent me was used, poorly packed, and had a lot of dust on it. It did work though.

Good luck with that

well that's disheartening!

wonder if i can get them to do cross shipping, maybe tell them a tall tale.

sad thing is they still haven't replied to my rma request.

[gugle]

new bios 2005
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ELUXE-2005.zip

[vrdublu]

I'm havin an issue with the comp. I go to start it this morning and get noything at all, no beeps, black screen and nothing seems to be moving. I unplugged and reseated the video card, removed and reseated the ram, checked all connections and still nothing. Dead board?? haven't been on in a while and did a search but nothing came up, any ideas??

[chuck4456]

Well.
My neighbors bought stuff for a new i7 build and I picked up their P5QD in the process.
It's not a bad board at all.
I've overclocked a Kentsfield or two in my day and it has taken the least amount of system voltages for good performance increases and overall stability with this one than it has any other motherboard that I've had a Quad on.
I put a 4-pack of Dominators on it and she just sailed.
So far so good.
Knock on wood of course!

[jas420221]

What seems to be the FSB limit on this board? I am using the 2001 KET bios if that helps. Thanks!

[jas420221]

Anyone?

[gugle]

What seems to be the FSB limit on this board? I am using the 2001 KET bios if that helps. Thanks!

Duo or Quad ?
look at some pages ago, several tests have

[jas420221]

Quad, I will search for you post in the meantime.

[gugle]

Quad, I will search for you post in the meantime.

even using P5Q-E, but posting here
with a Q9550 and a P5Q-E I got to 521FSB, was much harder, with WC
had a user in the topic P5Q-E, with the Q6600 came 525FSB (LN2)

[Caped Crusader]

Anyone?

Seems like everybody sold their P5Q DLX's lol

I haven't reached the FSB limit on my board yet. Currently at 450 and it's enough for my needs.