Asus/NCIX (Average Joes) Overclocking Competition on XS

[TheGoat Eater]

I do have to say that I do not see the logic in allowing ES chips...

They tend to be better overclockers, have unlocked multipliers, and who knows what other kinds of advantages over regular retail chips. Not to mention that an average person cannot obtain these legally, making ES chips kind of BS chips in terms of a fair contest. The Goat Eater already posted a 228 BCLK basically with an ES chip, but I can say almost certainly that a regular retail chip won't do this.

This is the same argument as the memory speed almost. There is no effort there. Whoever has the deepest pocket and can go out and spend on the fastest memory will basically take the memory speed contest if they have half a brain. Buy a set of Dominator GT sticks, OC them to 2100MHz and extend your hand to claim $1k prize.

I guarantee that the Corsair GTs are not going to win the speed contest and I have some coming Monday so IDK what the new batches are like - as for deep pockets I am unemployed right now and have almost no income so I for one don't have deep pockets - the 228 BCLK took 20 hours~ of tweaking and was not the ES just giving it up - that is for sure as I wasn't able to get over 215 for the longest time...

As for unlocked multis - you are not up on the ESs - the 920ES that I am playing with only has 20x and is limited to 2 low memory dividers and have yet to go over 1750~ as I cannot conceivably do that w/ the dividers given... If I choose to use my 965 ES it is just like a 965 XE - these are C0/C1 and are not D0 so I don't have that advantage

[dejanh]

I guarantee that the Corsair GTs are not going to win the speed contest and I have some coming Monday so IDK what the new batches are like - as for deep pockets I am unemployed right now and have almost no income so I for one don't have deep pockets - the 228 BCLK took 20 hours~ of tweaking and was not the ES just giving it up - that is for sure as I wasn't able to get over 215 for the longest time...

As for unlocked multis - you are not up on the ESs - the 920ES that I am playing with only has 20x and is limited to 2 low memory dividers and have yet to go over 1750~ as I cannot conceivably do that w/ the dividers given... If I choose to use my 965 ES it is just like a 965 XE - these are C0/C1 and are not D0 so I don't have that advantage

Well, either way that ES is better than your average chip at least in terms of the BCLK. I do believe that it took you a long time to get that BCLK but at least it was possible for you. Most won't even boot past 220MHz. Mine does not boot past 222MHz at all, and at 222MHz it will not actually show 222MHz, it only shows 220.8MHz no matter what. I tried everything imaginabe to get the system to boot past 222MHz and I can say that it is simply impossible for me.

Now, your ES may be the way you say but that is not every ES. Some of the i7 920 ES had unlocked multipliers though all did have locked memory multipliers. I will give you that one.

Finally, in terms of the Dominators winning speed contests...well, I'd differ with you there. I have a stick of Dominators here that will do 1970MHz easy and they are rated for 1600MHz. And these are poorly binned too. If they serve as any indication then the GTs will do quite well indeed. Of course if your chip craps out on Uncore that's a different story. I guess we need to see how good the IMC is in those guys. By the way, do you know if it is pure memory frequency contest or is it overall bandwidth contest?

Finally, I do not see much advantage to D0 vs C0, at least not my chip. Everything that so far was demoed with a D0 I can do with a C0 as well, barring stuff with the new 975 XE which does not really compare.

I still stick to my opinion that ES should not be used for contests regardless. Then again, can't really blame the ES chips, only the poor setup for the contest. There isn't even any restrictions on whether you have to run with HT on or not, or whether you have to use triple channel vs. dual vs. single. I mean c'mon...basically it is anything goes.

On a different note, who's supplying you with stuff if you can't pay for it anyway?