My Tiny Contribution to Genetics

[SkanXtrem]

Nice pix ! So beautiful !

[IanY]

Merci beaucoup.

Updates as soon as my PSU comes back. In a couple of days. Thanks for the patience.

[IanY]

I am highly apalled and disgusted by the entire RMA process, especially when I had nothing to do with a dead PSU showing up at my door.

UPS took 4 days to deliver the parcel to the west coast from the east coast. Now, Newegg requires "three to five business days to process" (ie, to determine the the PSU is indeed stone dead... duh... I really enjoy paying $21 in shipping fees to play games).

The bottom line is that I'll be waiting a total of 3 weeks because I was sold a defective PSU.

I requested cross shipping using credit card charges, but Newegg doesn't operate that way.

So, the consumer gets the short end of the stick.

[sniperbob]

sorry to hear about your RMA woes... hope all is better soon!!!

[shazza]

Sorry to hear that on the RMA process - maybe you'll get lucky and they will process it faster - that's what happened whey I RMA'd a motherboard a few months ago.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

That's a sweet set of components right there! Sub'd! I would love to see someone try to fit six dual slot cards on that board with an pcie extender once, can't remember having seen it anywhere ( and before, there was a limit to how many nvidia clients you could run at one time anyway but afaik this limit is gone! Imagine 6 295's in one system... that gives me wood

I hate DOA's, gl with the RMA.

[Sparky]

I am highly apalled and disgusted by the entire RMA process, especially when I had nothing to do with a dead PSU showing up at my door.

UPS took 4 days to deliver the parcel to the west coast from the east coast. Now, Newegg requires "three to five business days to process" (ie, to determine the the PSU is indeed stone dead... duh... I really enjoy paying $21 in shipping fees to play games).

The bottom line is that I'll be waiting a total of 3 weeks because I was sold a defective PSU.

I requested cross shipping using credit card charges, but Newegg doesn't operate that way.

So, the consumer gets the short end of the stick.

They say 3-5 days to process but Newegg has usually been very quick with the (few) RMAs I've had with them. They've had the replacement shipped out within a day, maybe two, except for one where they didn't have an exact replacement in stock anymore so they asked if they could send me a slightly upgraded model (which I said yes to).

[IanY]

To all...

Thank you very much for your kind words...

[Mr_Mike]

Looks good cant wait to see more

[IanY]

I just got home, and lo and behold, my PSU unexpectedly arrives!

Except that its 11 pm and I'm really tired. I think I have the basics all ready to go. So, there's going to be system building this weekend

[skinnee]

Pics...we demand pics!

Don't care how tired you are...pics!

[IanY]

Its alive!!! The monster is alive!!!

Except I hope not having a -5V is right because the PSU tester says its missing.

But it works!!! Woohooo....

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Its alive!!! The monster is alive!!!

Except I hope not having a -5V is right because the PSU tester says its missing.

But it works!!! Woohooo....

Pic's or it didn't happen

[SiGfever]

Pics...we demand pics!

Don't care how tired you are...pics!

I'm with that Crazed Cruncher.

[IanY]

So, I have an incredibly difficult decision to make!

Drill or not drill my mobo tray

I am a klutz and test drills on old steel case shows a tendency to drill oval with a hole saw and in general goof up perfectly good equipment

The execution hour is 9 am EST on Saturday. Wife's out for 3 hours and the window of opportunity is tight Otherwise, I'll be subjected to the usual WTF stares and eye rolling

[Movieman]

So, I have an incredibly difficult decision to make!

Drill or not drill my mobo tray

I am a klutz and test drills on old steel case shows a tendency to drill oval with a hole saw and in general goof up perfectly good equipment

The execution hour is 9 am EST on Saturday. Wife's out for 3 hours and the window of opportunity is tight Otherwise, I'll be subjected to the usual WTF stares and eye rolling

Didn't read enough to see how big a hole your doing but if say 80-120mm the key is in clamping a thing(1/4"-3/8") pice of wood on both sides of the metal to be drilled and if aluminum a sharp holesaw will go thru it like soft butter.
If a 120mm hole(4 1/4" inch hole saw works fine,Home depot,$25.00 ) You really need to make sure the piece is clamped down well and your drill( not cordless) is a perfect 90 degrees to the work and then lock your arm and shoulder into place and drill at medium speed.
TWO hands on the drill at all times.
If a 4" hole saw locks it will whip your arm like a tornado hit it but I've done this thru SM steel cases and they are like 56 Buicks..You just have to do it right and be carefull.
Good Luck.

[CyberDruid]

I have found that if I run the holesaw in reverse it cuts a lot smoother in aluminum. the saw is so sharp it'll do the job in reverse no problem and a lot less chance of wearing the drill around your neck if it grabs unexpectedly...and ditto what MM suggest about backing up the work with a scrap of wood...this will keep the drill bit part of the holesaw from wandering as well as keeping the thin alloy from bending.

[IanY]

Didn't read enough to see how big a hole your doing but if say 80-120mm the key is in clamping a thing(1/4"-3/8") pice of wood on both sides of the metal to be drilled and if aluminum a sharp holesaw will go thru it like soft butter.
If a 120mm hole(4 1/4" inch hole saw works fine,Home depot,$25.00 ) You really need to make sure the piece is clamped down well and your drill( not cordless) is a perfect 90 degrees to the work and then lock your arm and shoulder into place and drill at medium speed.
TWO hands on the drill at all times.
If a 4" hole saw locks it will whip your arm like a tornado hit it but I've done this thru SM steel cases and they are like 56 Buicks..You just have to do it right and be carefull.
Good Luck.

Hi MM,

Actually, all I was planing to do were four 1 inch holes in the mobo, largely because of peer pressure to start cleaning up the wiring. Actually, this is not even a material issue because the cables are still going to be a royal mess, as you will see.

I have a new 1 inch bi-metal holesaw. I also bought a round file to finish off the mess I'll make.

Other than that, the only experience I have was on old throw away cheap steel cases, and I made an oval hole in one and a jagged edge hole on the other that looked like a hole saw lol

I'm sure aluminum is easier to work with, but skill and experience is an issue.

The mitigating factor is that the mobo sits on top of any mess I would potentially make anyway.

Thanks. I need the luck.

[IanY]

I have found that if I run the holesaw in reverse it cuts a lot smoother in aluminum. the saw is so sharp it'll do the job in reverse no problem and a lot less chance of wearing the drill around your neck if it grabs unexpectedly...and ditto what MM suggest about backing up the work with a scrap of wood...this will keep the drill bit part of the holesaw from wandering as well as keeping the thin alloy from bending.

Thanks for the valuable advice, CD.

I'll try it in reverse. The Lian Li aluminum looks really thin anyway.

I do know my limits. This is the first time I'm doing anything like this.

[Movieman]

Hi MM,

Actually, all I was planing to do were four 1 inch holes in the mobo, largely because of peer pressure to start cleaning up the wiring. Actually, this is not even a material issue because the cables are still going to be a royal mess, as you will see.

I have a new 1 inch bi-metal holesaw. I also bought a round file to finish off the mess I'll make.

Other than that, the only experience I have was on old throw away cheap steel cases, and I made an oval hole in one and a jagged edge hole on the other that looked like a hole saw lol

I'm sure aluminum is easier to work with, but skill and experience is an issue.

The mitigating factor is that the mobo sits on top of any mess I would potentially make anyway.

Thanks. I need the luck.

1" holesaw is cake if you use the wood both sides.
Virtually eliminates tearout and the need for filing after.
I've heard that trick of running the drill backwards but never done it as it should dull the bit by doing so..I think..
Wood both sides, 90 degrees to the material, med speed and your golden.

[IanY]

1" holesaw is cake if you use the wood both sides.
Virtually eliminates tearout and the need for filing after.
I've heard that trick of running the drill backwards but never done it as it should dull the bit by doing so..I think..
Wood both sides, 90 degrees to the material, med speed and your golden.

Thank you.

I originally was thinkingof a fillport in the ceiling as well, but I think I ought to get practice on the hidden mobo tray first. Wood on both sides may be difficult though. No idea how to clamp two pieces of wood down.

[shazza]

Go for it, Ian. (It makes me feel good (sorry) that even one of the guys is not that confident about cutting ... I'm still scared to death to take that step).

Also - glad the 'egg came through and got your PSU to you for the weekend.

[IanY]

<Frantic look of mass panic>

"What are you going to do with that drill?!?"

<she sees me waking up early on Saturday.. in itself a red flag lol>

Bwahahahahaha

[IanY]

I'm doing well, at least by my standards and lack of skill.

However, I learned a lesson. Cordless drills are good only for small jobs. The drill battery quit on me on my very last hole. I would have finished and saved myself at least an hour. Oh well.

I think it looks ok. There was only one burr which I ad to file off, and the hole was a tiny bit irregular but it looks presentable.

CyberDruid, kudos to you for recommending going the opposite direction on the holesaw. It took a bit longer, but patience and slow drilling was the key. It also helped that the drill I have is wimpy (Ryobi 9.6 volts), which meant that I had zero problems keeping it relatively steady.

I couldn't find a decent piece of wood, and I figured the wife wouldn't appreciate me using the kitchen cutting board lol

In the end, the job went well even without a sturdy piece of wood. I had something behind, but it kept shifting, so it might as well not have been there. The Lian Li aluminum is not as wimpy as I thought and the mobo tray didn't bend in the least bit. I need to finish up, clean up the mess I made and mount the mobo.

[SiGfever]

Excellent news Ian, when everything is cleaned-up, we want pics.