Core i7 920 rev D0 stepping 5 :)

[jason4207]

What this implies then is that in order to regain its throne as the king of OC Intel will blantantly EOL their 940 and 965 chips to replace them with much better i7 chips based off of D0 stepping. If they do that, I will make them replace my chip if it's the last thing I do.

Not to even mention that would be the biggest show of disrespect for the consumer I have ever seen.

I somehow find this outcome very hard to believe. I would have no issue with them keeping the specs and names on the 940/965 and improving the OC ability slightly compared to C0, but a new chip with new upper multiplier limit is just bull.

No this is not how technology works. This is apparently how technology works in the NVIDIA and Intel world where products go EOL before they decently hit the market. But, you are entitled to your opinion. Clearly either you are a brainless consumer or you do not work for your money. Otherwise this moot point would definitely concern you. I'm also sure you'd be singing a different tune had you bought a 965 or something for a grand and will soon be able to put it where the sun don't shine. But its all technology mate

Anyways, since this thread has turned into a mess of babies crying for apologies I don't think there is anything more to say. Criminal was never my target and I do still disagree with posting results showing temps and such when they are clearly not correct. That fact won't change. In terms of how D0 will do, we'll all know once it's out won't we. Props to him on getting his hands on the ES chips.

Were you around when the G0 65nm hit? All of the sudden Q6600's hit 3.6GHz easily instead of 3.1-3.2GHz (on the B3's), and temps were much lower. I didn't hear anybody screaming for Intel to replace their chip then. If you want the new stuff sell what you have and go get the new one.

And then when the E0 stepping hit on 45nm C2D/Q all of the sudden much less vcore was needed (as opposed to C0), and temps were a good bit lower. Also, the QX9650 was pretty much EOL (except for those using LN2) at that point as the Q9650 E0 overclocked better and ran cooler w/ less voltage at a much lower price point.

History has repeated itself once again (it seems anyway...we still need to see more retail results). Early adopters always go through this...this is the price of being on the bleeding edge. If you don't want buyers remorse don't buy the most expensive chips right when they come out, and never buy new Extreme chips. I held off on I7 for this very reason. You can still fetch a pretty penny for almost any Extreme CPU on eBay, but the value on forums like this always drops off steeply.

Would you rather Intel did nothing to improve upon their design? This is not some radical improvement. These chips aren't running 5GHz 24/7 on air or anything. So far it looks like the C2D/Q C0->E0 jump...better temps and a tad bit more speed (~100MHz).

It seems everyone else would like the i7 to run cooler and faster...why not you? Personally, I don't think having chips that run 90*C+ is acceptable, so this is a welcomed and needed improvement.


I don't think the D0 chips have a higher multiplier limit than C0. From what I've seen in this thread it just matters if your mobo has the support and you set the BIOS settings right. The 920 has the 22x w/ Turbo, so its in there...just a matter of having the right board/settings to enable it.