New Nehalem MAC!

[Shintai]

just a question are the gainstown proccessors 4 cores or 8 cores?

They are like i7. 4 cores, 8 threads. Dualsocket is then 8 cores, 16 threads total.

[gOJDO]

Finally the Apple fanboys can have something that we own for months. I wonder what Apple are going to do now with their $25K dual Harpertown systems...

[Movieman]

Supermicro X8DAH

nah, here's the board you want:

[Fitseries3]

STOP SAYING NEHALEM.

This.........IS.........GAINSTOWN !!





Perkam

maybe im a noob but i thought gainstown was the given name for the 8core/16thread i7s?

none of these are 8 core from what i read.

they just look like bloomfields labled as xeons.

[Helmore]

Beckton is the 8 core part. Beckton will use a different socket though, (socket LGA1567) and is meant for systems with 4 or 8 CPUs per board. It will also have 24 MB of L3 cache and a quad memory channel controller, which will probably make it a very very processor.

[Movieman]

maybe im a noob but i thought gainstown was the given name for the 8core/16thread i7s?

none of these are 8 core from what i read.

they just look like bloomfields labled as xeons.

Ok, here's the deal:
Overall family name is Nehalem
Then the single socket cpu with one QPI is called Bloomfield
Dual socket version with 2-QPI is called Gainestown..
8 cores per cpu is down the road and has nothing to do with what we're discussing here..
Now, does that make more sense?

[XS Janus]

X8DAH has 18 RAM slots!!!!!
That means 72GB of ram if you are supre rich. And that actually would make afor a usable RamDisk

@Movieman: why is this board (x8DAi) better?
What are the specs on both? anyone has their spec sheets?

[Serra]

I knew that Apple would have product release before we even see availability, but I still hate them (or more particularly, Intel) for it.

[570091D]

this is what agravates me:
$300 1tb hard drive
$150 nvidia gt120 (add $200 for a 4870)
$900 24" display
$500 to upgrade to 2.8ghz (single cpu)

apple would sell more computers and be more of a threat to mightysoft if they would lower thier prices!

but then if they were REALLY serious about competing, we would be able to buy mac OSX for our pc's...

[Movieman]

X8DAH has 18 RAM slots!!!!!
That means 72GB of ram if you are supre rich. And that actually would make afor a usable RamDisk

@Movieman: why is this board (x8DAi) better?
What are the specs on both? anyone has their spec sheets?

look close, the X8DAi has 2-PCI-e X16's ver2..
The other has PCI-e X8's..
I'm going to do a review to be posted on March 30 to keep the powers that be happy. Trying to get a couple top vid cards to bang out some pretty numbers..
Don't own any SSD's but I have some 15.4K Seagate SAS drives and a low end promise SAS card..
I'll make some ripples in the water..

[Drwho?]

Let's clarify the naming ...

So, Nehalem is the name of the Micro Architecture ... so, Nehalem has several different processors, Bloomfield, Lynnfield, and few others ... This is as well Nehalem processor familly... In the mean time, the westmere processors familly is using Nehalem Micro Architecture ... the same way Penryn was using Merom Micro-architecture, plus some extension ... see the logic behind it?

You are micro architecture generations, and processor famillies ... some include others.

Please don't shoot, we have internal reason to work this way, it may look a little disturbing some time for you guys, but it is very easy for the insiders to find what is what. Few years ago, we would not speak about Code name much outside, the same way a Nissan GTR is a Nissan GTR 2009, not a R35 (Only for hardcore enthusiast)

[CmB]

Oh, the naming scheme isn't bad at all. Quite easy actually. Just gotta take some time to read and maybe ask a question here and there.

--Chris

[ILikeCosmosS]

why are we going to need 8 cores? dont you think 4 cores is enough? i would rather build a gainstown rather then get the mac

8cores is like server much but for consumers dont you think thats overkill and the noobs at computers(meaning everyone who doesnt know how computers work, and think they know everything i could say What is a PCB and they would know!) will only need dual cores.

[CmB]

ILikeCosmosS, please think about the market for this tower. It isn't home user i'll tell you that, lol. No four cores isn't enough. i can always run more instances of BOINC and other DC programs.

[lowfat]

why are we going to need 8 cores? dont you think 4 cores is enough? i would rather build a gainstown rather then get the mac

8cores is like server much but for consumers dont you think thats overkill and the noobs at computers(meaning everyone who doesnt know how computers work, and think they know everything i could say What is a PCB and they would know!) will only need dual cores.

It isn't for consumers. Mac Pro as in Professional.

[clo007]

Ok, enough talk, where's the boards?
6x1 gig DDR3-1333 ECC
2-TRUE's w/1366 bases
2-X5570's

lol....your waiting!!!

[clo007]

this is what agravates me:
$300 1tb hard drive
$150 nvidia gt120 (add $200 for a 4870)
$900 24" display
$500 to upgrade to 2.8ghz (single cpu)

apple would sell more computers and be more of a threat to mightysoft if they would lower thier prices!

but then if they were REALLY serious about competing, we would be able to buy mac OSX for our pc's...

Microsoft does not sell computers...they sell software!

[Movieman]

lol....your waiting!!!

No, not waiting, I have everthing here except the motherboard and doing my damnest short of putting on knee pads and pursing my lips to get that.

[breathemetal]

I want one so badly.
I love the cases.

[ZOMGVTEK]

http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

Turbo Boost dynamic performance (up to 3.33GHz on 8-core 2.93GHz system)

3.33 x 8 physical cores... MMMmmmmmmmmmnnnnnn

[Macadamia]

Why is Apple getting it ahead of us?


I bet I can build a proper 2x Gainestown system below $2000, take that Jobs!

(Speaking of which... drooooool. Movieman send me some stix plz! ECC DDR3 still nowhere to be found here.)

[Movieman]

Why is Apple getting it ahead of us?


I bet I can build a proper 2x Gainestown system below $2000, take that Jobs!

(Speaking of which... drooooool. Movieman send me some stix plz! ECC DDR3 still nowhere to be found here.)

I don't thing so..Not with even close to top cpu's..
X5570's =$3200.00+/pair
Motherboard=$500.00+/-
memory=6x1 gig Kingston $136.00 in US
Then add drives, case, a GOOD 750w PSU and your at close to $4500.00

[perkam]

Why is Apple getting it ahead of us?


I bet I can build a proper 2x Gainestown system below $2000, take that Jobs!

(Speaking of which... drooooool. Movieman send me some stix plz! ECC DDR3 still nowhere to be found here.)

For $2,000, you can, but it wouldn't be a very good one.

The best DP Nehalem rigs start at $3-4,000 (12GB ram + 2.66Ghz CPUs).

I don't thing so..Not with even close to top cpu's..
X5570's =$3200.00+/pair
Motherboard=$500.00+/-
memory=6x1 gig Kingston $136.00 in US
Then add drives, case, a GOOD 750w PSU and your at close to $4500.00

There's no real need to go X5570. The X5550s @ 2.66Ghz have all the features of the top-tier Nehalem Xeon models AND that takes off $1,200 off the $4,500 which makes a big difference.

Perkam

[ZOMGVTEK]

People who think the Mac Pro is overpriced are crazy. Its expensive, yes... But try to build it yourself for any real significant amount cheaper....

It can be done, but its not like youre saving thousands. Just dont buy extra ram from apple... Good god do they charge you for that ram!

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

People who think the Mac Pro is overpriced are crazy. Its expensive, yes... But try to build it yourself for any real significant amount cheaper....

It can be done, but its not like youre saving thousands. Just dont buy extra ram from apple... Good god do they charge you for that ram!

If you want any extras (more ram, etc), yeah, you'll save 1000s easily.