Intel X-25m tweaks needed in Vista?

[karateo]

you obviously do not know much of SSD technology.

LOL MAN!

How funny you OCZ people are

Tried to post to this guy here
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...&postcount=160
that Intel SSDs have 3.300 IOPS but then I got this....

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Really, OCZ staff, get a life!
It's a chain reaction your ban. Think more next time!

[One_Hertz]

LOL MAN!

How funny you OCZ people are

Tried to post to this guy here
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...&postcount=160
that Intel SSDs have 3.300 IOPS but then I got this....




Really, OCZ staff, get a life!
It's a chain reaction your ban. Think more next time!

For comments on other forums? That's just pathetic, OCZ.

[RyderOCZ]

Tried to post to this guy here
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...&postcount=160
that Intel SSDs have 3.300 IOPS but then I got this....

The forum is for discussion of OCZ products, not what this drive or that drive from our competition does or does not do. If you have something contructive to post, then we can talk, if you are not interested in that, then your not going to get the chance to post.

You stated what you were going to post which had nothing to do with the OCZ drive.
That is not an open forum like XS is, it is focused on OCZ products.

[karateo]

discussion continued here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...06#post3624706

sorry for the forum hijack!

[Spoiler]

Prefetching should be turned off. Prefetch places the bootup items (copy) in a different spot so that it could be loaded quicker sequentially. But that's not necessary with SSDs and adds writes.


Defrag should be turned off. Defrag isn't strictly unnecessary, but the built-in defrag doesn't do it right for SSDs and adds writes.


Superfetch should be left on. Data is read from the disk so that's safe for the SSD. Fast as SSD's are, RAM is still faster.


Page file should be left on unless you can put it on a different drive.


Write cache should be left on unless your system is prone to crashing in the middle of disk activity. If it's your primary workstation, this should not be happening; find and fix the problem. If this is your extreme workstation, then a little disk corruption shouldn't matter.


Indexing is a tossup. Even a SSD is not fast enough to null the need for indexing. Indexing does put a very modest number of writes when it creates and updates the index (in the overall view of things, it's trivial). Reading the index obviously has no penalties and as usual RAM is far faster than even a SSD. Remember, you're not supposed to index everything, only things you want instant-search on.

Thanks for the nice elaboration! I will be sure to use this whenever I finally get an SSD setup.

To each his own on the raid setup I guess. I like having one large drive as well, but my performance addiction has always required a raid setup.

[btdvox]

Haha, glad this post is getting alot of insight,

To be honest, it is why i went intel in a second, because they have reliability and a 3 year warranty, plus Ive always bought Intel CPU's. I remember reading the anandtech review back in septemeber and being soo blatently jealous but they were going for 800 bucks then....

I dont think the Intel's are too Overpriced now, comparing to the higher volume vertexes.

Here is a 120 GB OCZ Vertex for 620

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...Z%20Technology

and the intel 160GB was going for 820 at NCIX, (I think there out of stock now so prices a bumped up again).

for 200 bucks your getting 40 GB more and the Intel drive. I believe the 250 GB Vertex goes for about 1100 bucks.

Also Thanks for the elaboration also Chrono- really helpful!

Lastly: I really never bought much from OCZ, I bought some RAM from them before and my RAM rebate was declined because of a post office clerical error, and never got solved which kind of bothered me, but I didnt hold it against them. I did find this comment from Tony funny;
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...&postcount=174

but I know Tony has a lot of knowledge and is respected here at XS. But Im sure he knows people on this forum have cash to burn.

[ewitte]

Personally I think the Vertexes are overpriced as well seeing as it only cost me about $600 for 192GB of storage AND a RAID controller for the older drives. Adding 32MB cache isn't THAT much money. I mean you can get it on a sub $100 normal drive. It shouldn't triple the price.

[karateo]

For comments on other forums? That's just pathetic, OCZ.

there was a chance to try vertex ssds but now it's gone!
in addition i will never recommend ocz products again and I have a nice screenshot to show around

finally, i am having trouble looking for that insulting post against tony!
i even PMed him about it
i can easily though, find one from tony insulting me! (just scroll upwards)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...05&postcount=4

Haha, glad this post is getting alot of insight,

To be honest, it is why i went intel in a second, because they have reliability and a 3 year warranty, plus Ive always bought Intel CPU's. I remember reading the anandtech review back in septemeber and being soo blatently jealous but they were going for 800 bucks then....

I dont think the Intel's are too Overpriced now, comparing to the higher volume vertexes.

Here is a 120 GB OCZ Vertex for 620

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...Z%20Technology

and the intel 160GB was going for 820 at NCIX, (I think there out of stock now so prices a bumped up again).

for 200 bucks your getting 40 GB more and the Intel drive. I believe the 250 GB Vertex goes for about 1100 bucks.

Also Thanks for the elaboration also Chrono- really helpful!

Lastly: I really never bought much from OCZ, I bought some RAM from them before and my RAM rebate was declined because of a post office clerical error, and never got solved which kind of bothered me, but I didnt hold it against them. I did find this comment from Tony funny;
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...&postcount=174

but I know Tony has a lot of knowledge and is respected here at XS. But Im sure he knows people on this forum have cash to burn.

(some people are getting crazy!)

with the intel ssds you will never be wrong
reliability and trust to the manufacturer


so anyone has any results with various tweaks?
any real life experiences?

[ewitte]

Actually there are a lot of the intels dying. They work fine for a while and then all of the sudden the iops drops to almost nothing and/or you can not access the drive. Read through the user reviews on Newegg I've seen that a few other places as well.

[nick2crete]

Actually there are a lot of the intels dying. They work fine for a while and then all of the sudden the iops drops to almost nothing and/or you can not access the drive. Read through the user reviews on Newegg I've seen that a few other places as well.

Well,reading the reviews on Newegg ..61 total ,some guys have bought more than 1..lets say round 100 discs from this sample and they have died 2-3 ..this is not a lot of..

[btdvox]

Actually there are a lot of the intels dying. They work fine for a while and then all of the sudden the iops drops to almost nothing and/or you can not access the drive. Read through the user reviews on Newegg I've seen that a few other places as well.

Yah I dont know why but this whole thread youve just been flaming....

No point in doing so mate, I already bought the intel ssd and have no regrets about it, From any reviewer and user i have seen they have been nothing but happy about them, except for one user who had problems with his RAID card (because there was too much throughput from 4 intel ssds lol)

[ewitte]

Yah I dont know why but this whole thread youve just been flaming....

No point in doing so mate, I already bought the intel ssd and have no regrets about it, From any reviewer and user i have seen they have been nothing but happy about them, except for one user who had problems with his RAID card (because there was too much throughput from 4 intel ssds lol)

Just a reality check that they really are not that much better People make it out to be the best thing in the world and the only option and thats just not true. I'd actually wait for the better stuff in 1-2 years if Intel was the only option just because they priced themselves out of the market. If your not happy with the other drives for some reason I would wait, basically what I was saying.

[btdvox]

Just a reality check that they really are not that much better People make it out to be the best thing in the world and the only option and thats just not true. I'd actually wait for the better stuff in 1-2 years if Intel was the only option just because they priced themselves out of the market. If your not happy with the other drives for some reason I would wait, basically what I was saying.

Thats ok, No ones saying that here nor did they ever say that.

When I bought my i7 Proc - I was told the same thing to go for the 920 instead of the EE 965, but I bought the 965 and love it.

I didnt give my reason to wait for the OCZ vertexes because of my own reasons and it seems if I say those reasons I could get banned :P so I wont.


anyways thanks for the help guys!

[nick2crete]

sorry ..wrong thread...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20
..that should go to this ..http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=225167

[Rhys]

Thats ok, No ones saying that here nor did they ever say that.

When I bought my i7 Proc - I was told the same thing to go for the 920 instead of the EE 965, but I bought the 965 and love it.

I didnt give my reason to wait for the OCZ vertexes because of my own reasons and it seems if I say those reasons I could get banned :P so I wont.


anyways thanks for the help guys!

You got a 965? You also got

[Ao1]

The Kingston version of the X25-m comes with this advice from their web site Q&A “data caching is limited to the controller for enhanced performance. Disabling Write Cache simply adds latency and provides no significant additional data loss protection.”