Ah, that makes things a bit clearer.
Ah, that makes things a bit clearer.
Come on guys...
1 - Unwinder already said he wouldn't add voltage sliders to RT;
2 - He said he is not helping EVGA with their new software to control voltage;
3 - If you think he is lying, you have all the right to do so, but keep it to yourselves...
4 - If you are really willing to have voltage control sliders, you can do a program to attain such, now that all of us know how...
Are we there yet?
maybe you missed this part, I'm not trying to change unwinders mind.
Nice avoidance
I'm not whining. All I said was he was lucky he didn't use a slider. UNWINDER told me sliders are dangerous. You're saying UNWINDER gave me wrong info? Sounds like it to me. The next time I tell someone they were lucky for not using a slider are you gonna say the same?
You avoided it for DAYS because on ONE DAY I posted 6 msgs in regards to sliders? That makes sense. Sounds more like you're trying to dramatise this and make XS mods think "oh no, we losing visitors 'cos of this dude".
Come on admit it, like you'd honestly stay out of a thread you're really interested in because one guy is asking a few questions. You really need to work on some better excuses mate
Besides which, all I see are worshippers trying to look cool infront of someone else by giving me a hard time. All I said was what UNWINDER told me, that sliders can cause fried cards and now you're all moving in for the kill again.
C'mon guys....I've taken UNWINDERS excuse and am accepting it.....why can't you lot do the same. Am I not allowed to agree with unwinder now is that it?
You really have some serious issue. If a person says no, that means no. He can say no without any reason. He is doing the program on his freetime without any charge. He can give any answer he wants without owing anything to anyone. He doesnt even need to give a reason when he refused the request.If he was to answer only no to you demand without any reason, would you whine this much too?
If a girl refused to go to bed with you, do you whine this much too or do accept the no answer?
when is this program cuming out ???
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See this guys? This is lost in all the BS and people begging for something they've already been told NO. What part of NO did people not seem to understnad? That was not open for debate. He said no and that was final. Getting on somebody's last nerve is the best way to asure it will never happen even if he was on the fence about it which I am certain he is not. If it ever would've been considered in the future I can say without a doubt that it won't now.
A lone post is asking a question on topic and you can barely see it for all the arguing over something that is NOT gonna happen.
Yep, EVGA said soon, so we'll have one. At least for cards with EVGA BIOS's on certain cards that will support it. That's all this thread is concerned with. Knowing EVGA, and the fact that they said "soon", I'd bet it would be inside a month. We probably won't hear anything else until it's released since what was shown was a beta already. However long it takes to test it and work any bugs out, but from the looks of it, they are on it.
Lost???? no it wasn't. such a drama queen.
if you're so concerned with posts being overlooked and my asking questions....why do you need to wade in here hours after my last post (when other guys have told me to stop posting so I did) only to drag it up again, post the same comments as others and then hog up half the page with your paragraph and the other half with that repulsive sig?
Another "Look how I defend you unwinder" fan-boy...how pathetic
I've clearly stated I accept unwinders reasoning. No need to repost asking me to accept it.
Anyone who posts any comment towards me again in this thread (except for a mod) will clearly be trying to extend this.
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Does it even really matter that much what Unwinder does? Not to spur on any flaming or whatnot, but you have to think about this realistically.
The demand for a gui based voltage tuner is obviously high amongst enthusiasts. So one would have to reason that
someone will make such a tool or mod. Unwinder has said he doesn't want to, and nothing we do will change that.
Let it be, and give it some time. I'm sure you'll have a program that suits your liking sometime relatively soon.
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I agree with Unwinder and thank him for all of his work on such a great program. Go to Guru3d forums and see what he has to deal with. Why should he have to deal with this crap from people that feel like he owes them something for releacing a great free app.
It's just wrong. I mean really what the F.
Such a great thread completely derailed.
Banhammer?
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Didnt see it anywhere but will this support Cards like the G80,s and G92=8800gt?
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At present no there isn't any support for these cards unless someone is willing to find the voltage reg datasheets if they are available and figure out whether there are writable voltage selection registers or not.
Right now support is mainly for cards with Volterra VT11xx VR's.
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Well it looks like Evga Voltage Tuner is not going to be much help to me after all. After following justageek95 guide I've sucesfuly managed to change the vcore of my gtx 280 to 1.3V. Too bad it look like the shaders on this card fare rather poorly and top out at 1512 regardless of the voltage, I tried 1.3, 1.25 and 1.24 now and the shaders are the limiting factor to my max core speed of 756. Also even .1 increase to vcore really increased the temps even with a 100% fan, 78C is no joke.
Well at least I gained 20ish on the core, thats something.
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Where is the logic in triggering OVP in this situation? As far as I understand VT1165 principles, the sense of OVP is preventing output voltage from going beyond Vnominal + OVP (hardwired and defined with configuration resistors). Vnominal is output nominal voltage, i.e. the voltage VRM is expecting to see on output, this is the value you are seeing at RT's hardware monitoring graphs and this is the value you're programming into VRM. So for example if VRM is programmed to give 1.4V on output and resistors define OVP of 200mV, OVP condition will be triggered when real output voltage goes beyond 1.6V. This makes sense for hardware voltage mods, when you change the voltage without altering programmed VRM's nominal voltage. In this case you change voltage by altering nominal voltage yourself. And VT1165 supports much higher voltages than 1.37.
It sounds more like and OCP for me. Maximum current for each VRM phase is also hardwired with configuration resistors.
I've already posted it in other thread: you can "ask" VT1165 to report OCP/OVP conditions by reading its register 13. Bits 0 and 1 are OCP/OVP states. Take a note that these bits are read-only status bits, you cannot change them.
Dear KELL5 and the Co, if you think that my reasons are completely illogical, please stop attacking me and prove it by actions. You have easy way to prove your words by writing your own tool doing exactly the same things you're demanding me to do. Wrting your own Windows MMIO driver is a question of 1-2 weeks. Writing your own HAL accessing ATI/NV I2C buses based on open source Linux ATI/NV drivers is a question of 1-2 weeks too. Having that in hands, you can use the information provided in this thread to implement VT1165 support layer. This is a question of 1 hour. Attaching the slider to it is a question of 5 minutes. Do it, if you can do something besides trolling. Easy money, you can even sell it to some vendor.
Last edited by Unwinder; 01-29-2009 at 11:14 PM.
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