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    The MSI is actually 790FX-GD70 and 790GX-G65 BUT why only

    Supports four dual-channel DDR3 1333 memory slots up to 16GB
    I thought DDR3 was going triple channel??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    The MSI is actually 790FX-GD70 and 790GX-G65 BUT why only

    Supports four dual-channel DDR3 1333 memory slots up to 16GB
    I thought DDR3 was going triple channel??
    Nah specs for am3 reference mentions nothing about triple channel, read the white paper in post 1.

    Not that it may not happen with am3, just not the reference 790chipset......maybe thats what the extra pin in the am3 socket is reserved for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    I thought DDR3 was going triple channel??
    Why? The amount of channels has to do with the memory controller not the RAM type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    Why? The amount of channels has to do with the memory controller not the RAM type.
    yep and what the chipset supports as well.
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    So once again AMD is a step behind Intel ........ nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    yep and what the chipset supports as well.
    Not on AMD. The same chipset can be recycled over and over again as the only contact it has with the memory is through the HT link it has with the CPU. That's why all first gen AM3 boards are going to feature the venerable 790FX/GX that we've known and loved for the last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    So once again AMD is a step behind Intel ........ nice
    The triple channel is a marketing trick at desktop. Just an extra expense nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    So once again AMD is a step behind Intel ........ nice
    Why would you need triple channel on desktop ?? Except for triple cost of course... Dual channel ddr3 IMC/memory combination will be quite enough even for 6 core parts in AM3 package.
    AMD will skip triple and will go for 4 channels in server segment ,with combo IMCs in the case of the MCM of Deneb/Shanghai in 2010(the reason behind quad channel is the MCM module nature of the chips).

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    Let's keep it real here: Triple channel memory controllers do offer an advantage, but it's far from universal. Just like in the old days when dual channel DDR controller debuted, not everything benefits and there are some drawbacks. I say do it when it makes sense financially. Until then, I've got no problem with dual channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    So once again AMD is a step behind Intel ........ nice
    Fwiw in some applications dual channel with intel chips is faster in certain apps than triple channel.......bigger is not always better........
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    w/ triple channel are you limited to 3/6/9/12gb of ram? seems kind of odd, 3 is kinda low these days, 6 isnt enough to disable page file, 9 would have to be 3x2gb and 3x1gb which would be 2 different kits aka not ideal and 12gb would be too much memory and $$$ at the time.
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    Well for 1, not everyone runs vista, for 2 not everyone runs 64 bit so....since xp only recognizes 3.5 max ( in most boards w/XPsp3 32bit ) 3g is just fine. Vista 32bit only recognizes 4g I think in 32bit......
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