UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[BustaH]

Supafish, Have you tried higher qpi voltage? Also put ram on 1.65 and pll on the first notch=1.81 above you said you had qpiv set at 1.35, maybe try 1.4 or so I think this is the key to your oc, unless as T-flight says you have a bad cpu.

Dejanh, good job on the description of the problem to Asus lets hope that fixes it.

[izzyreb02]

Hay, I got this board last week and I just finally built it up yestrday and it powered on and it seems as though the hard drive was doing sumthing and also when it powered on only one of my cd drives light up and then my floppy just staying light up.. while my other drive just didnt flash.

But aneway it didnt post nothing on the screen and Im using the 1800 Corsair Dominator Memory (4 gig) (Dual). I actually havent got time to buy the tri set memory yet.

I'm using the 920 cpu with the thermalright 120 eXtreme 1366 Cooler inside the Silverstone Tj09 Case.

Has aneone have a clue what might be going wrong and why it wont post up the bios on the screen.

At First i thought it was the cold boot issue and I did waited and I did use one slot of ram inside but it still wont post nothing on the screen. What do u think it could be. Do you think the old bios wont detect the 1800 dominator memory until I update it to the lattest bios?

Aneway please give me ur ideas of what may cause of the problem. I actually gave it to gamedudes (thats where i brought the stuff) but now they ask for my powersupply cables and the disk that came with the board and also the LCD poster thing (Even though, I dont plan on leaving it in for this build though cause its in the way). But i would like to speed things up to help them up so i can use my board and re put my games n stuff... and of course.. To overclock it.

Any ideas. I be much appreciated.

[jcniest5]

In most cases if the floppy light stays up, you may have connected the floppy cable the wrong way. For not POSTing, remove everything but the Video card, one stick of memory and the CPU and try turning it on again to see if it would POST.

[BustaH]

unplug all your drives, just have 1 stick ram/psu/cpu+hs and video card installed on the board to see if you can post to bios. also really you need to post your full set up/components used. btw what does the lcd poster say? does it say 'locked' or is it halting somewhere else?

[izzyreb02]

"unplug all your drives, just have 1 stick ram/psu/cpu+hs and video card installed on the board to see if you can post to bios. also really you need to post your full set up/components used."

What do you mean? Like my specs..

920 i7 Core + Thermalright 120 ultra 1366 RT Cooler
Rampage II extreme with the bios that was with the board
Sony DVD RW Burner
Sony CD Burner/DVD Reader (this is the drive that didnt flicker when I powered it on w/no post) It does work..
2x GTX280's in Sli
Corsair Dominator 2x 2 Gig (4 Gig) 1800mhz TW3X1800C8DF G
300 Gig Velci Raptor (Primary)
1TB Western Digital (Data 1)
1TB Western Digital (Data 2)

1TB Western Digital Raid type (Raid 0 GAmes)
1TB Western Digital Raid type (Raid 0 Games)
300 Gig Velci (In case raid 0 fails I have that to place games into)

Galaxy Enermax 1000watt

Umm I cant really think what else besides that though

Oh yeah when i first build it up it did let me power it down when i Hold on the power button but since I reset the cmos on the back it seems it wont power down when i hold the power button and i dont kno if this is normal but when I turn the power supply swtich off the board beep twice n then it powered off.

Oh yeah When i place the LCD post in, it says welcome and then it goes how long its been posted and doesnt show like memory or cpu int and that type of thing.

[GiN]

Hi guys!

Thanks for all the good info fellas. I'm stuck at 190 blck 20 multi with turbo on, HT off (LinX stable). Any ideas on how to to reach 200 blck with turbo on?

Here's what I'm running...

920 (batch 3836A984)
RE2 bios 805 (tried 904 but didn't see inprovement)
Corsair HX1000
Corsair Dominator 3x2gb C8
Custom water cooling setup 2 loops








I've tried everything I could think of....vcore up to 1.52, vtt to 1.45, vdimm to 1.70, ioh = 1.40, ich = 1.20 but nothing.

I can post at 200 bclk but it BSOD on Vista splash screen. Highest I could do is 197 x 21 into vista but 5 secs into LinX it crashes.

Any tips or info will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Lou.

i need 21x200 cpu vtt 1.55 get it 3dmark06 stable and i have vcore 1.53 i just put it near to max i lower that later if i can this is very cpu vtt hungry after 3.8ghz i can run 3.8ghz 19x200 ht on 1.3vcore and 1.35 cpu vtt

[T_Flight]

Re: izzy's issues

A no POST could also be due to the default 1.5v the BIOS defaults to from the factory and when the CMOS is reset. The memory he has may not POST at that since it's rated for higher voltage. What do you guys think? Think the RAM might keep it from POST'ing?

There were some Mem support issues with the older BIOS revisions too.

[izzyreb02]

Yeah I was just thinking maybe its my memory again. Like prolly had to get them put an 1333 ddr3 memory or the previous models b4 the 1800 just for it to get it posting. But that would mean thay wuld have to update the bios. Oh well. I just hope it will post when it does though. But it did say it will in the QVL memory list for the board though.

I will let them know when I go to them tommorrow, to hand in the powersupply box, lcd poster and motherboard disk (like really, why would they need my power connections like everything is in the tower, all connections are there unless sumthing isnt right like the floppy connection is bad or sumthing n had to replace it with the other ones thats in the powersupply box)

[BustaH]

Also you have 2x video cards in there just try one. I allways keep a old pci video card for troubleshooting issues like this.

The two beeps from your galaxy psu [I use one] that some kind of safety warning. these psus have had issues running certain video cards. for instance I had a problem with a 3870 x2 and that psu, I returned the psu and enermax sent me a newer revision version that has had no issues.

If you can try a different psu. but I do think T-flight could be right, depends when you got the board, mine had 0705 bios installed as default I think.

I dont think your board is dead izzy, just keep trying different things, ram voltage may be an issue but I would have thought 'det ram' would show on the lcd and hang maybe.
not sure but your psu might be the issue [incompatible] with something possibly.

[cstkl1]

thanks dejanh

manage to figure out on ure explanation of the cfz elite 775 bracket mod.

replaced the neoprene tubes and now running some leak test

one thing i wonder.. arent this metal barbs only usable once??
cause its damn hard to remove . replaced it with plastic ones.

[jasonelmore]

It's a good idea to flash both bios's when you get the board. Not just flash one and wait for something to screw up. I switched to my second one and put the latest official on it.

[izzyreb02]

Also you have 2x video cards in there just try one. I allways keep a old pci video card for troubleshooting issues like this.

The two beeps from your galaxy psu [I use one] that some kind of safety warning. these psus have had issues running certain video cards. for instance I had a problem with a 3870 x2 and that psu, I returned the psu and enermax sent me a newer revision version that has had no issues.

If you can try a different psu. but I do think T-flight could be right, depends when you got the board, mine had 0705 bios installed as default I think.

I dont think your board is dead izzy, just keep trying different things, ram voltage may be an issue but I would have thought 'det ram' would show on the lcd and hang maybe.
not sure but your psu might be the issue [incompatible] with something possibly.

Well it cant be my powersupply really coz i had it running fine with my striker II extreme.

But the LCD post just shows welcome and then just contuine on showing the time of how long its been posting.
I did try just using one video card but it still went and didnt post anething.

But i agree though. I been very careful and gentle placing that motherboard in so theres no way it could be dead though.
But i bet gamedudes may consider its faulty n then prolly replace me another one and when they do that i have to wait like a week or more to get my board back.
But aneway I already sent them an email enquiry bout the memory bit and I will re tell them when i go there as well just incase they havent decided to try it out.

It could be my memory since its not labeled in the user manual and its is in the new QVL memory list so it could be possble it would work if the bios is up to date.

Its worth a shot though.

[tristan20]

I think there is a problem with this board and fast memory, I cant get my kingston 2000 hz ram to run at spec, 1866 is fine.

I RMA'ed the Ram, so lets see

[majesty413]

CPU: I7-920
MB: RAMPAGE2
VGA:GA-280GTX
RAM: KINGSTON 1800 (2G*3)
POWER:TAGAN-1300W.











HTPC:

[Kensek]

I think there is a problem with this board and fast memory, I cant get my kingston 2000 hz ram to run at spec, 1866 is fine.

I RMA'ed the Ram, so lets see

No Problem - I've run 3 different types of Ram up to DDR3-2100 with CL8 Timings.

It's all QPI/VTT related. All the new Elpida Ram that operates at DDR3-2000 with CL8 and CL7 Timings require QPI VTT of 1.55-1.65 Volts.

This is the required Mfg specs to run Ram at this speed. If you do not increase QPI Vtt than you'll never run at High Frequencies.

Though Intel specs say 1.35v is the Max. I've been running 1.60 QPI VTT around the clock now and all is well.

[dejanh]

thanks dejanh

manage to figure out on ure explanation of the cfz elite 775 bracket mod.

replaced the neoprene tubes and now running some leak test

one thing i wonder.. arent this metal barbs only usable once??
cause its damn hard to remove . replaced it with plastic ones.

Do you mean the crimps (metal rings that tighten around the neoprene tube)? I would think most crimps can be reused. At least in real life plumbing they can. I did not try doing any mods to the system however, so I am not sure about these specific ones. Maybe eventually I will swap out the pump and add a double or triple rad in the loop, but not for now...

May I ask why you replaced the tubing?

[BustaH]

cstkl1 Barbs can be reused as long as the rubber 'o' rings are ok on them.

[OcAddict]

Got my new 920 and it's a winner

[jasonelmore]

I think there is a problem with this board and fast memory, I cant get my kingston 2000 hz ram to run at spec, 1866 is fine.

I RMA'ed the Ram, so lets see

Have you tried the new 1001 Beta Bios? I'd have to think the 2000mhz ram has been implemented by now. After all we saw the first preview of those Dominator GT's on a R2E

Got my new 920 and it's a winner

What's your batch number?

[cstkl1]

Do you mean the crimps (metal rings that tighten around the neoprene tube)? I would think most crimps can be reused. At least in real life plumbing they can. I did not try doing any mods to the system however, so I am not sure about these specific ones. Maybe eventually I will swap out the pump and add a double or triple rad in the loop, but not for now...

May I ask why you replaced the tubing?

cause during the stupid attempt to dremel the i7 bracket to support the thicker waterblock..
i scrapped off some neoprene.. so more like capillary tear
so had to replace it..

anyways heck now stuck at 4ghz 1.35v set.
is coretemp tdp correct??
if so i am at 130 watts with this voltage

this barbs are way different cause they crushed the top part manually by machine i think..
i manage to get the exact one from the hardware store.

[OcAddict]

What's your batch number?

Batch number is 3835A766

[Supafish111]

If you lowered the RAM down to take it out of the equation and ran that high of a vCore to it and it still wouldn;t boot, it's the chip. It's gotta be.

If you haven't, lower RAM down, and relax timings, then see what the CPU will do. That isolates the RAM out so it won't affect the CPU OC. After that, if it will OC, start raising the RAM into it, then tighten the timings to find the sweet spot. You may have to back off BClk a little too since when you bring the RAM back in it might not run at the max clocks it did with the RAM totally out of the Equation, since the BClk affects both the CPU and RAM clocks.

Check PSU voltages also with a Multimeter and make sure they are stable and don;t droop under load or fluctuate. That can raise havok with OC's. If you can also check voltages at the board. I didn't see what board you have, but on the Rampage II Extreme you can do this. Others, you have to know where to put the probes.

It is luck of the draw with some of these. Not every chip will OC the same...even in the same batch numbers. It depends on where the chip came from on the wafer, how it was binned, the date it was manufactured, and lots of other stuff.

I would check those things above though.

Hey T-Flight,

Yeah, I've tried lower multi on ram with relaxed timings but it didn't help. Gonna try watching PSU (HX1000w) with MM to see if volts fluctuate.

Oh, got me a RE2 in case you're wondering. I really hope its not the chip.

Thanks for the tips

Lou.

[Supafish111]

Supafish, Have you tried higher qpi voltage? Also put ram on 1.65 and pll on the first notch=1.81 above you said you had qpiv set at 1.35, maybe try 1.4 or so I think this is the key to your oc, unless as T-flight says you have a bad cpu.

Dejanh, good job on the description of the problem to Asus lets hope that fixes it.

Measured PSU to CPU via DMM showed an increase of 0.02v to vcore underload.

Took your advise and used Saaya's guide on finding max bclk and found it takes me 1.412v qpi for 200 bclk. Thanks busta....you may be on to sumthing

Gonna redo my search for max multi now.

Thanks again guys hope to join the i7 4ghz club soon.

Lou.

[Supafish111]

Okay guys, made a lil progress I think.

Found bclk @ 200 stable (1.412v)
Best (vista bootable) multi stuck at 19x (1.40 vcore stable)

HT - ON
Uncore @ 3408
QPI Link @ 7218/MT
Dram @ 1203 (using 6x with relaxed timings)
Vdimm @ 1.65
PLL @ 1.812
IOH @ 1.219
ICH @ 1.11

I tried increasing voltage on everything individually but nothing seems to get me into Vista. Not sure if its the memory seeing how they are running under spec and cooling isn't an issue (66*C max LinX).

Any ideas on how to get past 19x wall fellas?

Thanks,
Lou.

[izzyreb02]

Hay everyone

Thay just rang me up and asked me if my memory is dual or tripple set and basically its only dual set at the least since it only came out as dual sets when i got it for my striker II extreme and he just told me that the board will run on dual but the cpu mainly meant for tripple set and i explained to him that i wont get a tripple set for like 2 months or so since i had to build my money up again since i spent it on the speakers Logitech 5.1 5500 Z and the Rampage II and the cpu and the cpu cooler that kinda brought my money down and unable to afford the memory at this current time.

But he goes nah its ok the board will run dual set as well just thort u may need to know so he says that it posted and he has to reasemble the board back in the case and that again and give me a call so it should be ane time now for it to be picked up..

But i also need to be sure to get my powersupply cables n stuff back and make sure nothing is missing and of course the LCD poster.. I hope its not been plugged in the board or else it be hanging around when u carry the case out and it be in the way of things if its set on the table.

Now if its able to post when i get it the first thing i gotta do is check if its the lattest bios if its not i hope theres no harm updating it once i put vista in.

Ahh these new boards do have a big twitch to it.