WOW the new PhenomII 940 just did a price drop here. then they came out price was 375.00(CAD), now on Newegg.ca there 310.00.....920 are 265.00
Last edited by HondaGuy; 01-17-2009 at 07:44 PM.
i7 860 Batch # L933B378
ASUS Maximus III Formula
Koolance CPU-360
G.Skill 1600 7-7-7-24
Sapphire 5770
i7 860 @ 4.213 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=986383
Phenom II 550 X4 @4.160(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=652117
Phenom II 550 X2 @ 4.1(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=638438
Kuma 7750 @ 3.5....http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560031
Phenom II 940 @4.1<------ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=501007
9850BE@3.6------- http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=447465
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WOW....Check this out. I found out about the 15 dollar Phenom II 940 discount late so I contacted Newegg and they are giving me 15 bucks back(Promo Code). Thus, getting my 940 for 215 due to buying a cheap 16GB flash drive. (15 Dollar combo discount).....Plus a 10 dollar rebate for the flash drive.(LOL)
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Last edited by Throwed; 01-17-2009 at 07:52 PM.
SO what are you buying me?
i7 860 Batch # L933B378
ASUS Maximus III Formula
Koolance CPU-360
G.Skill 1600 7-7-7-24
Sapphire 5770
i7 860 @ 4.213 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=986383
Phenom II 550 X4 @4.160(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=652117
Phenom II 550 X2 @ 4.1(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=638438
Kuma 7750 @ 3.5....http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560031
Phenom II 940 @4.1<------ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=501007
9850BE@3.6------- http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=447465
I forgot it doesn't show that. I had to use 1.5v.
Funny part is at these settings my CPU gets to 72C and my chipset up to 75.It's never been that hot before. I calculated repositioning my heatsink knocked off a couple degrees from the CPU, but didn't do much of anything for the chipset.
Daveburt714, yes, at stock my system is fine.
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-cooling: Scythe Mugen 2 + AC MX-2
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB
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That sucks man... I hate to say it, but it sounds like you may have gotten a turd. I'd be too honest to RMA it if it did what it was supposed to do, reguardless I feel for ya...
On the bright side, Phenoms are tricky chips keep working at it you may very well be able to get better clocks.![]()
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DFI LANParty DK 790FX-B
Phenom II X4 955 BE (1003GPMW) @ 3.8GHz (19x200) w/1.36v
-cooling: Scythe Mugen 2 + AC MX-2
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB
8GB PC2-6400 G.Skill @ 800MHz (1:2) 5-5-5-15 w/1.8v
Seagate 1TB 7200.11 Barracuda
Corsair HX620W
Support PC gaming. Don't pirate games.
Well, it's not real impressive, and I seriously doubt it's 100% stable, but it was good enough for a CPU-Z validation, and it's still holding it's own while I post this message....
Personally, anything under 10secs on WPrime makes me feel good...
I'm still working on my tweak abilities, It might actually do better, and let me get an hour OCCT verification..
Heres the CPU-Z Validation link:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=487100
I love this PhII, and in the end, it's just your average retail chip, SWEET...
Probably the best thing of all is the ~2.7 NB speed! My 9950 would have never even come close to those clocks...![]()
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Watercooled ST 120.3 & TC 120.1 / MCP35X XSPC Top / Apogee HD Block | WIN7 64 Bit HP | Corsair 800D Obsidian Case
First Computer: Commodore Vic 20 (circa 1981).
Dave, mine is similar to yours clock wise, but require 1.52V for that clock. I've did some 4 core Cinema stuff on previous page, but OCCTP 1H failed after 6 minutes when temp reached 57C. Better cooling or more volts and 3.9GHz in 64bit stable!
I'm now going to fire up my main ring and figure it out![]()
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Some more benching at 3.95gig on WATER trying for decent ram and NB clocks atm , rather than outright clk, which seems to be difficult on wat over 4gig.
3000kb/s+ WinRAr @ >4ghz DONE.
cpu99 score aint bad
sandra mem bandwidth... nipping at the heals of TRI channel corre i7
and last but not least.. PHenom II has to win something
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Thanks for posting your results on water, nice clocks, but from what I have gathered 4Ghz prime95 stable seems to be out of range with the current stepping of Phenom II.
Thats what I was hoping to see, Im sorta holding off on getting one now, as it looks that 3.8Ghz is more realistic for prime95 stability using water and moderate voltage increases.
Also waiting for the prices to drop in the UK, such a shame that US retailers dont ship to Europe, so we can benefit in better pricing........
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mAJORD, your Crypto bandwidth should be higher than mine, but it isn't - I'm running at DDR2-960 memory 4x2gb, and FSB 240 x15 = 3.6GHz CPU, NB at 2.4GHz (10x) and HT at 2.4GHz. That's kind of weird. Your HT multiplier is different from your NB, that must have something to do with the motherboard you are using.
Crypto
Bandwidth 542 MB/s (you got 441 MB/s) - big discrepancy
Hashing 660 MB/s (you got 687 MB/s)
CPU at 1.4V, NB at 1.3V right now. I've tried 1.6V on the CPU and 1.5V on the NB but I can't increase the speed of either without crashing the system. Not quite where I expected water cooling to get me. I'm guessing it is due to using all 4 memory slots.
Work in progress... Koolance PC4-1026SL Case, ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe BIOS 0602 - Video, CPU, Memory - Water Cooled
Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.6GHz with Koolance CPU-340 (o/c limited by 4 memory sticks maybe?)
4x mushkin 2gb 991593 in OCZ FlexXLC Water Blocks at 5-5-5-12-2T 2.2V DDR2-960
3x ATI Radeon HD 3870 @ 960/1250 @ 1.675V, custom capacitor mods, with Koolance VID-387, Catalyst 8.10
2x WD VelociRaptor SATA 10k 300GB RAID 0 on SB750(200MB/s throughput!)
Silverstone Zeus 1200W (single rail mode) Power Supply
Dell 3007WFP-HC, LG DVD, Razer Keyboard + Mouse, Vista Ultimate 64-Bit
FSB 240, CPU 1.4V 15x, Mem 2.2V, NB 1.3V 10x
System Showcase - Koolance PC4-1026SL Case, MSI K9A2 Platinum with 1.6B3 BIOS
Northbridge, Southbridge, VRM, CPU, Video, Memory - Water Cooled (picture)
Phenom 9850 CPU @ 2888MHz with Koolance CPU-340
4x mushkin 2gb 991593 in OCZ FlexXLC Water Blocks at 5-5-5-12-2T 2.1V DDR2-960 (Sandra XII SP2c Mem Bandwidth 11.68GB/s)
4x ATI Radeon HD 3870 @ 975/1250 @ 1.675V, custom capacitor mods, with Koolance VID-387, Catalyst 8.6 HF1 | 16156 3dMark06 | screenshot
2x Fujitsu MAX3147RC SAS 15k 146GB RAID 0 (156MB/s throughput!)
SilverStone OP1200 (90A Single Rail) Power Supply
Dell 3007WFP-HC, LG DVD, Razer Keyboard + Mouse, Vista Ultimate 64-Bit
FSB 240, CPU 1.45V, Mem 2.1V, NB 1.3V, HT 1.3V
i7 860 Batch # L933B378
ASUS Maximus III Formula
Koolance CPU-360
G.Skill 1600 7-7-7-24
Sapphire 5770
i7 860 @ 4.213 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=986383
Phenom II 550 X4 @4.160(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=652117
Phenom II 550 X2 @ 4.1(MA790X-UD4P) http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=638438
Kuma 7750 @ 3.5....http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560031
Phenom II 940 @4.1<------ http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=501007
9850BE@3.6------- http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=447465
I went for it. I picked up 8GB of G.Skill DDR2-1066 just now. It's supposed to clock well, but I'm wondering about the PII IMC. Has anyone had luck in doing 1066 with 4 DIMMs yet?
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I like your memory scores
Good work mAJORD![]()
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RiG2: HTPC AMD A10-7850K APU, 2x8GB Kingstone HyperX 2400C12, AsRock FM2A88M Extreme4+, 128GB SSD + 640GB Samsung 7200, LG Blu-ray Recorder, Thermaltake BACH, Hiper 4M880 880W PSU
SmartPhone Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE
XBONE paired with 55''Samsung LED 3D TV
Has anyone seen Phenom II with 0901xxxx batch?
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~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Toppc did 1120 on a MSI DKA790GX-Platinum here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=26
Best I can do stable with 4x2gb is FSB 240, DDR2-960 5-5-5-12-20. Sandra scores are very good [improvement over 9850BE, 3GHz, same memory settings and NB speed]. I was able to post at DDR2-1066 speed 6-6-6-18-25but the memory was not stable, and I could not boot at all at DDR2-1100. I have also tried FSB 250, NB at x9 (2250MHz), DDR2-1000 also not stable at 5-5-5-15-24.
Memory
Int 12.08 GB/s [ 6.5%]
Float 12.06 GB/s [ 6.5%]
Latency 77 ns [ 6.1%]
Curiously the Multi-core efficiency is way up in Phenom II, but way behind Core i7. It's probably not a very good test. Up 45% for a 20% increase in clock speed.
Multi-core efficiency
Bandwidth 5.45 GB/s [45.3%]
Latency 78 ns [44.3%]
Work in progress... Koolance PC4-1026SL Case, ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe BIOS 0602 - Video, CPU, Memory - Water Cooled
Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.6GHz with Koolance CPU-340 (o/c limited by 4 memory sticks maybe?)
4x mushkin 2gb 991593 in OCZ FlexXLC Water Blocks at 5-5-5-12-2T 2.2V DDR2-960
3x ATI Radeon HD 3870 @ 960/1250 @ 1.675V, custom capacitor mods, with Koolance VID-387, Catalyst 8.10
2x WD VelociRaptor SATA 10k 300GB RAID 0 on SB750(200MB/s throughput!)
Silverstone Zeus 1200W (single rail mode) Power Supply
Dell 3007WFP-HC, LG DVD, Razer Keyboard + Mouse, Vista Ultimate 64-Bit
FSB 240, CPU 1.4V 15x, Mem 2.2V, NB 1.3V 10x
System Showcase - Koolance PC4-1026SL Case, MSI K9A2 Platinum with 1.6B3 BIOS
Northbridge, Southbridge, VRM, CPU, Video, Memory - Water Cooled (picture)
Phenom 9850 CPU @ 2888MHz with Koolance CPU-340
4x mushkin 2gb 991593 in OCZ FlexXLC Water Blocks at 5-5-5-12-2T 2.1V DDR2-960 (Sandra XII SP2c Mem Bandwidth 11.68GB/s)
4x ATI Radeon HD 3870 @ 975/1250 @ 1.675V, custom capacitor mods, with Koolance VID-387, Catalyst 8.6 HF1 | 16156 3dMark06 | screenshot
2x Fujitsu MAX3147RC SAS 15k 146GB RAID 0 (156MB/s throughput!)
SilverStone OP1200 (90A Single Rail) Power Supply
Dell 3007WFP-HC, LG DVD, Razer Keyboard + Mouse, Vista Ultimate 64-Bit
FSB 240, CPU 1.45V, Mem 2.1V, NB 1.3V, HT 1.3V
That is suspicious, since multicore efficiency went way down in Cinebench. Instead of a speedup of like 3.8-3.9 we're seeing 3.6ish on Phenom II for whatever reason.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
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