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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post
    Please show me where I stated that I tested the Luna? I don't not have, nor will I be getting a Luna. Until this post, you have not directed a single question at me, they were all aimed at mcoffey.



    Did you see the video in the link at the bottom of page 7? Is there something wrong with my testing methodology?



    Thanks for thinking I'm stupid. I know what a Hall Effect sensor is as I had one on an after market GM ignition system I purchased for my Buick V6 back in the early 90's.

    Perfect?...How can you say running a DDC3.2 @ 75% of full power is a perfect test? The GTZ needs lots of pressure (second only to the Supreme for current gen blocks) to function properly, you will only get that pressure running at full power. The Luna also has 3 inserts that can choose to use or leave out thereby adjusting the restrictiveness of the block. The fact that the RPM's don't match or are even close in the tests is a clear indicator that something is amiss. Anyone that has seen the results and testing methodology of a valid test will say that this test is far from a valid test, the numbers just don't add up.


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    And the pissing match begins.

    I'm sorry sir but you are wrong. Not on your observation of the pump power bur rather your inability to comprehend that the lower RPMs are accounted for by the higher restriction. The more restriction the more pressure is applied on the pump. It's quite obvious and even your post above states that the GTZ needs more head pressure in order to perform it's best (only second to the EK Supreme).

    Now let's look at this logically. If the RPMs are lower when the GTZ is in use yet the power pushed to the pump is the same than one can conclude that the restriction of the GTZ is likely responsible for the lower RPMs.

    One would likely not see this in a single block loop but Malik is using multiple blocks and some of them (Bitspower) tend to be highly restrictive.

    MCoffey stated this: "Well around here, if you're good and kind enough to share your results, then you're good and kind enough to answer questions or debate the results. I don't believe anyone called anyone a liar. WL ran his own pump test and came up with a different result than Malik, so he posted his question because the two results differ."

    So which one of you two tested this block with a similar pump? He says you did and you say he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElMoIsEviL View Post
    And the pissing match begins.

    I'm sorry sir but you are wrong. Not on your observation of the pump power bur rather your inability to comprehend that the lower RPMs are accounted for by the higher restriction. The more restriction the more pressure is applied on the pump. It's quite obvious and even your post above states that the GTZ needs more head pressure in order to perform it's best (only second to the EK Supreme).

    Now let's look at this logically. If the RPMs are lower when the GTZ is in use yet the power pushed to the pump is the same than one can conclude that the restriction of the GTZ is likely responsible for the lower RPMs.

    One would likely not see this in a single block loop but Malik is using multiple blocks and some of them (Bitspower) tend to be highly restrictive.

    MCoffey stated this: "Well around here, if you're good and kind enough to share your results, then you're good and kind enough to answer questions or debate the results. I don't believe anyone called anyone a liar. WL ran his own pump test and came up with a different result than Malik, so he posted his question because the two results differ."

    So which one of you two tested this block with a similar pump than? He says you did and you say he did.

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    Watch the video in the link at the bottom of page 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElMoIsEviL View Post
    I'm sorry sir but you are wrong. Not on your observation of the pump power bur rather your inability to comprehend that the lower RPMs are accounted for by the higher restriction. The more restriction the more pressure is applied on the pump. It's quite obvious and even your post above states that the GTZ needs more head pressure in order to perform it's best (only second to the EK Supreme).
    ya'know, EiE, you really should take a serious look at his testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorpoet View Post
    ya'know, EiE, you really should take a serious look at his testing.

    edit: I shoulda' known WL would beat me to it
    I don't believe his testing..

    Try this... apply restriction on both ends.

    Inlet and Outlet.

    Your test only applies it to the outlet. Malik's loop contains a closed loop applying restrictions on both ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElMoIsEviL View Post
    I don't believe his testing..

    Try this... apply restriction on both ends.

    Inlet and Outlet.

    Your test only applies it to the outlet. Malik's loop contains a closed loop applying restrictions on both ends.
    You know, Malik uses a res as well ...and how is my loop not closed? Actually, I questioned that myself before I ever did the video and got the same results.

    I'll be more than happy to do as you request, it's gonna take me some time though as I'm gearing the test loop up to retrieve more data. I'll do it at that time.
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    When I changed from a FuZion v1 to the GTZ my rpm's increased by about 150-190 rpm with my DDC-2 pump. Same pump, same loop, same 12vdc power, just different CPU blocks.

    It is almost like a little "freq drive" sensing "back emf" to increase pump speed under load.
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