Why some people are bashing HardOCP review about Phenom II ?

[maroon1]

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

Did anyone notice that they were using Three GTX 280 OC in Tri-SLI ?

It might be that Intel processors scale better with more GPU power. So why some people are bashing it when they don't have proof that shows otherwise ?

[Gambit_2K]

Is this really any form of news?

[maroon1]

I apologize

I did repost it in this thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...213691&page=15

Moderators, delete this thread

[kemo]

Wrong section my friend , you should post in the same topic were they were bashed

[rusty]

cause they can ?! wtf

[BertM]

the power of journalism.

[Miss Banana]

Dear Kyle, there is a reason why every single website on the net gets better Phenom II scores than you.
It's because every single website on the net is more competent at testing hardware, than you are.
Calling the Phenom II a loser part, after your utter failure of a review, is ironic in a sad way.
The only loser here is you, and the people that take you and your website even slightly serious.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=367

[Spectrobozo]

hardocp "review" is bizarre, if you want a phenom II review, just try another one, anandtech have a good one, and other sites to.

[LowRun]

Because it's total crap and if you fail to realize that you need to find yourself another hobby, try gardening or something

[Particle]

I didn't even make it to the benchmarks in the HardOCP review. I think it sucks because of the extreme bias presented in the review text. For example, here is how my review experience went when I tried to read H's:

Step 1) Read title.
Step 2) Read subtitle. Notice that apparently subtitles are now nolonger expansions upon titles but rather a space for brand rants and blatant lies.
Step 3) Begin to read introductory paragraph of review body. Notice that this too is some more anti-AMD rant before he even gets into the review itself.
Step 4) Notice that he's trying extra-hard to bash AMD--moreso than usual. This is a sign that Kyle the Fanboi feels more threatened than normal in his fragile blue world. He's overcompensating by being even more critical and negative than usual.
Step 5) Think of how sad that is and close the browser tab.

End.

It's perfectly fine that he's got an opinion. It is just sad that people look to him as an authority and will see his crap.

[Calmatory]

The million dollar question.. Is the OP a troll trying to provoke?

[BertM]

Because it's total crap and if you fail to realize that you need to find yourself another hobby, try gardening or something

thats the problem, most people will read it and beleive it.

i remember long time ago when intel made a tv commercial in the amd top 939 days claiming intel was the fastest cpu. they where forced to change the tv ad pretty quickly. on the internet thats not possible, to much freedom.

[freeloader]

Kyle is a ing douchebag anyhow.

[Tom128]

All I wanted the guy to do was test with 4gig of ram, at 1066 speeds, and use a C2Q that was not an extreme edition that has twice the cache of the C2Q's that PhII's are priced against. People trivialized the importance of 16MB cache vs 8MB cache, it was sorta funny.

Almost as funny as him not being able to get 1066 ram to run at 1066 speeds using only two sticks. I have seen failed attempts with 4 sticks but never two. My 8 (4x2) gigs of 1066 run just fine

I was pretty shocked by the article. Very unprofessional, I don't know if I will trust their CPU reviews again. I realize that some of the discrepancies (ram, cache, ram speeds) may not matter or have a drastic effect, but it is slightly curious that ALL the "what ifs" happened to fall against the CPU that was the center point of the article.

[demonkevy666]

The million dollar question.. Is the OP a troll trying to provoke?

Sure kinda seems that way.
I forgot get which review it was but there was, the reviewer ws more disapointed in his OC skills with phenom II because he didn't take the IMC Nb speed into acound when he was OC they HTT refeace but he did mange to get the NB up to 2.5ghz.

HardOC had A koolace water cooling cpu clock on that phenom II 940 3.8ghz
I didn't see any tempture reports threw the review....

[haylui]

All I wanted the guy to do was test with 4gig of ram, at 1066 speeds, and use a C2Q that was not an extreme edition that has twice the cache of the C2Q's that PhII's are priced against. People trivialized the importance of 16MB cache vs 8MB cache, it was sorta funny.

Almost as funny as him not being able to get 1066 ram to run at 1066 speeds using only two sticks. I have seen failed attempts with 4 sticks but never two. My 8 (4x2) gigs of 1066 run just fine

I was pretty shocked by the article. Very unprofessional, I don't know if I will trust their CPU reviews again. I realize that some of the discrepancies (ram, cache, ram speeds) may not matter or have a drastic effect, but it is slightly curious that ALL the "what ifs" happened to fall against the CPU that was the center point of the article.

there are plenty of reliable and trustful review webbie than this out there!!

[freeloader]

Almost 12 hours from my original post and guess what...

Kyle is still a douchebag....

Sorry I have nothing productive to add to this post, it's just anytime anyone even attempts to critique one of Hard's reviews, he or she is either banned or must be retarded to even think of questioning him.

[informal]

Almost 12 hours from my original post and guess what...

Kyle is still a douchebag....

Sorry I have nothing productive to add to this post, it's just anytime anyone even attempts to critique one of Hard's reviews, he or she is either banned or must be retarded to even think of questioning him.

Hehe that was funny .Kyle is gonna make a fatal mistake one time and ban himself over a quarrel with his second personality.
Seriosuly the HardO(N)cp is a joke of a website and Kyle's paranoia in forum section is hilarious.

[Cybercat]

It is the single most unprofessional review I've ever read. They didn't take price into consideration in any aspect, regarding processor or the whole platform. Instead they compared Phenom II to the top-of-the-line Intel offerings, as well as clock-for-clock performance, citing overclocking as the equalizing factor between the ridiculous discrepancy between them. But review samples don't overclock as well as retail samples, and Phenom II is simply on a different clockspeed scale than Core 2 and i7 processors. You will hit 4GHz with air on a P2 sooner than you'll do so on a comparatively-priced Intel processor. At that clockspeed, it would be similar to the 3.7GHz very typically achieved on midrange Core 2 Quads. I expect in the coming months OCing Phenom IIs will get better as they are refined. Right now 4GHz on air is rare, but I think that's a temporary anomaly.

Add to that the mood and attitude of the writing, and the total lack of objectivity made that review a cornerstone in the downward turning point of HardOCP's credibility. You might say it started even before then, when HardOCP immaturely mocked other websites (namely FiringSquad) for using traditional apples-to-apples benchmarking, as well as falsely accusing them of using canned benchmarks. Either way I'm surprised companies don't start pulling sponsorship from the site, and the place begins to flounder in the not-too-distant future.

[knightwolf654]

anyone Else's IQ drop after reading that garbage? i feel like sucking on my toe now.

[fizur2002]

i for the life of me could not finish the first two pages. Since when in recent years has clock for clock been a valid test of processing power when comparing AMD to Intel in the world of gaming. I know it does matter when encoding and such, but not so much in games.

[Blacklash]

The problem is the massive bandwidth on the X58 platform gives a large boost to Tri-SLi. Look below-

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...ance-review/11

So while I7 is faster than Phenom II some are missing the impact things like triple channel DDR 3 might have on Tri-SLi benches. It's really not solely about the CPU in these testing cases. Those charts make an E8400 and the 680i platform look like "a dog" compared to I7 on X58 as well.

If you're running SLi or Tri-SLi you would definitely benefit from being on X58 with an I7 920 @ 3.2GHz.

It will be very interesting to see what happens to SLi and Tri-SLi benches with a Ph II 940 @ about 3.4GHz when AMD move to something like DDR 3 1333.

[iandh]

I think the reason they are bashing it is because it very well could be one of the worst hardware reviews ever done.

[MrMojoZ]

I think the reason they are bashing it is because it very well could be one of the worst hardware reviews ever done.

And you'll see certain people DEFENDING it in the general news section. Really shines the light on some of the people posting here.

[charged3800z24]

And you'll see certain people DEFENDING it in the general news section. Really shines the light on some of the people posting here.

I kinda loose faith in a review that starts out with a view of a failure on a product before it starts.