AMD Phenom II Review Thread

[Leeghoofd]

Hard to tell there, ( I see some 4850/4870 in there) but major discrepancy to me 4gb for the AM2 and S775 (why DDR3 ?) and 3gb for the I7... too bad they didn't compare socket 775 with the same ram as the AM2 at the same speeds...

Hope MAS can shed a light here

[duploxxx]

q9300 price wise would be a competitor against PII 920 no? The PII 940 is priced to compete with q9400.

q9300=$245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115043

q9400=$270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115131

PII 920=$235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103472

pII 940=$275
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

same here in main EU. (NL)

P2 920 costs 211eur
P2 940 costs 236eur

Q9300 costs 204eur
Q9400 costs 240eur

that was also the original competition goal, price already down from early orders and available for direct delivery.

Hard to tell there, ( I see some 4850/4870 in there) but major discrepancy to me 4gb for the AM2 and S775 (why DDR3 ?) and 3gb for the I7... too bad they didn't compare socket 775 with the same ram as the AM2 at the same speeds...

Hope MAS can shed a light here

indeed not all reviews have the same base. waiting for the madshrimps review

[roofsniper]

Hard to tell there, ( I see some 4850/4870 in there) but major discrepancy to me 4gb for the AM2 and S775 (why DDR3 ?) and 3gb for the I7... too bad they didn't compare socket 775 with the same ram as the AM2 at the same speeds...

Hope MAS can shed a light here

i have seen a few different tests. for games having ddr3 over ddr2 typically does nothing unless it is memory intensive then it can make a big deal. i believe there was a bench with far cry 2 and one had a q9650 with ddr2 and one with ddr3. the ddr3 one got about 5 more frames. for other applications the ram might make a difference but its nice to see that when am3 comes along phenom II can only get better.

[MAS]

What video card did they use and resolutions did they test the gaming at?

1024*768, HD4870

[Shintai]

q9300 price wise would be a competitor against PII 920 no? The PII 940 is priced to compete with q9400.

q9300=$245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115043

q9400=$270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115131

PII 920=$235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103472

pII 940=$275
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

The Q9300 is a discontinued product.

[Leeghoofd]

Indeed let's hope AMD can bring good ram speeds (at least 1600mhz with tight timings) with the DDR3 boards... it would have been easier to interpret if the parts used were sort of alike... 4gb of that corsair ram can cost as much as the CPU alone... also I have no clue how fast the ram actually ran and how them points were calculated (but I'm e in graphs anyway lol)...

Go go MAS do some translating for us plz

[Shintai]

Doesn't current SuperMicro boards that support older Clovertons have like 4 phases? And are still rock stable.

Yep even 150Ws, plus you also see OEM boards like HP, Dell etc with it. (4 that is).

I have high hopes for something like this in the future:

[STEvil]

Number of phases means nothing once you get to 4+ really, its more about quality.

[Shintai]

I highly doubt you can run an i7 with two phases. Maybe if you do something exotic in the cooling solution. Also, more phases translates to less time each phase is on for.

How many phases do GPUs use? 8800GT is 2 phases for example...
Boards like P5N-E SLi is 3 phases, yet it could run prescott, quads etc. Not even a heatsink needed...

[qurious63ss]

The Q9300 is a discontinued product.

Regardless, they will have another chip in that $250 slot that will compete with PII 920 or whatever other chip Amd puts in the $250 slot.

[AbelJemka]

http://www.ixbt.com/cpu/amd-phenom-2-x4-940.shtml - using 1066 memory

Excel table is a huge addition thx

[marten_larsson]

Yep even 150Ws, plus you also see OEM boards like HP, Dell etc with it. (4 that is).

I have high hopes for something like this in the future:

It's posts like these that are quite away from topic. And I agree to those saying some people here are only focusing on the negative with the PII. And some are exaggerating the positive or negative. And some rather strange comparisons and conclusions have been made. (Like the ones saying most people run 1024x768 but still a PII wouldn't be enough for them. That's just crazy talk.)

[Rammsteiner]

I don't see anything wrong with that post....

And what about the others?

Anyway, my PhII will arrive 13th if things go well along with some nice Exceleram DDR1150 kit Hell yeah, Im gonna camp that door

Still I got to ready up my motherboard with over the top heat sinks, but I dont want the previous happen to me again

[Donnie27]

hmmmm what does that have to do with my post? or are we just listing what we don't like about phenom II now?

You talked about temps and overclocking. I asked how would you know?

Originally Posted by mongoled
Sorry Donnie, but this post has been reported, you just dont know when to lay off. Give it a break, please

@Mongoled, this is NOT the AMDZZone or AMD.com

[XC] riptide==I don't see anything wrong with that post....

Lay off means lie, spin and only positive words on behalf of AMD

[Leeghoofd]

And what about the others?

Anyway, my PhII will arrive 13th if things go well along with some nice Exceleram DDR1150 kit Hell yeah, Im gonna camp that door

Still I got to ready up my motherboard with over the top heat sinks, but I dont want the previous happen to me again

Keep me posted how those excellerams do mate, I'm loving every minute of my 4gb DDR3 kit, not very Oc'able but for 100 euros 1600Mhz with C9 is pretty amasing

[mongoled]

You talked about temps and overclocking. I asked how would you know?



@Mongoled, this is NOT the AMDZZone or AMD.com

[XC] riptide==I don't see anything wrong with that post....

Lay off means lie, spin and only positive words on behalf of AMD

Would you please stop trying to derail this thread

[T_Flight]

Would you please stop trying to derail this thread

See? This is exactly why nobody takes these threads seriously. People come in here and ask straight up questions and instead of getting a simple answer they get everything but. It's always got to be about "dreailing threads" or "fanboi's", or "wah wah wah everybody is attacking", or pestering the mods over nothing...that is what a trainwreck of thread derailment really is.

Donnie is right. It's the same thing in every one of these threads like this.

I'll ask it straight up...again...

What is the deal with the temp sensors? Is it software or is it the hardware?

Now, somebody can answer that, or this thread can keep getting derailed and will most probably get locked and run off the page. That's what happens to 98% of them.

[AbelJemka]

There is a lots of people who provide informations in this thread and discuss about PhII reviews.
There is a bunch of people who speak about i7 which is relevant for me because it's an existing product so you can compare.
There is a bunch of people who speak about i5 which is irrelevent for me because it's a far from released product.
There is a bunch of people who use word like "fanboy". I don"t know what they want
There is one guy who speak about AMD derailing thread in order to push mod to close it.

[Miss Banana]

See? This is exactly why nobody takes these threads seriously. People come in here and ask straight up questions and instead of getting a simple answer they get everything but. It's always got to be about "dreailing threads" or "fanboi's", or "wah wah wah everybody is attacking", or pestering the mods over nothing...that is what a trainwreck of thread derailment really is.

Donnie is right. It's the same thing in every one of these threads like this.

I'll ask it straight up...again...

What is the deal with the temp sensors? Is it software or is it the hardware?

Now, somebody can answer that, or this thread can keep getting derailed and will most probably get locked and run off the page. That's what happens to 98% of them.

You wouldlove for this thread to die it seems. This thread is about reviews of the new amd cpu.. Questions about sensors can be asked in one of the million other amd threads that you alleaddy derailed

[Rammsteiner]

Keep me posted how those excellerams do mate, I'm loving every minute of my 4gb DDR3 kit, not very Oc'able but for 100 euros 1600Mhz with C9 is pretty amasing

This kit was 100~110 Euro. There ain't a lot of information about it on the net, just one review and a very few user 'reviews' but they seem to hit DDR1200 without too much issues

Since PhII doesnt suffer from HTT's I could hopefully achieve HTT of 300 with the RAM running 2:1 so I wont suffer from those weird DDR1066 mode timings

Button was used to hopefully stop your endless ranting

[Cooper]

Please stick to the topic

[Chad Boga]

Cooper,
Completely OT, but the Kitty in your avatar is very cute.

[Lightman]

If anyone is still interested:
small review done by me: -->LINK<--

Includes apps mostly not used by anyone else. Comparing Phenom 9950 with Phenom II 940BE at exactly same settings!

[Final8ty]

Random Retail chip by a member of my main forum on Stock Cooler.

ok thouyght id try the multiplier first!
stock volts, not changed ANYTHING but multi, rock solid stable after 7hours+
more to come!

been stressing at 3.8Ghz as i said small voltage increase but temps still only at 30-31C lol this is only using multiplier and volts now! there is no doubt the stock cooler wud allow you to get to here with reasonable temps!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17962258

[Calmatory]

See? This is exactly why nobody takes these threads seriously. People come in here and ask straight up questions and instead of getting a simple answer they get everything but. It's always got to be about "dreailing threads" or "fanboi's", or "wah wah wah everybody is attacking", or pestering the mods over nothing...that is what a trainwreck of thread derailment really is.

Donnie is right. It's the same thing in every one of these threads like this.

I'll ask it straight up...again...

What is the deal with the temp sensors? Is it software or is it the hardware?

Now, somebody can answer that, or this thread can keep getting derailed and will most probably get locked and run off the page. That's what happens to 98% of them.

What about... no one knows?