Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[yenniedn]

But you can still get 3 sticks in right???

Yes, three sticks of Dominator (or other tall'ish RAM) is the limit. Regular (short) RAM doesn't have this problem. Doesn't matter, the giga board is getting yanked out and RMA'ed (for good) tomorrow morning.

Going to use a P6T Deluxe as a stop-gap until I can get my hands on the EVGA X58 Classified.

[tipes]

Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 @ F5c
G.Skill F3-12800C8-2GBPI-B x 2 @ 1600mhz 2:8, 8-8-8-21-1T
Ci7-920 (3841A383 from Newegg)
TRUE 120 Extreme with push-pull Panaflo 120x38mm M1-BX fans @ 12v @ ~2100 rpm
4000mhz Cores, 3200mhz Uncore, 3600mhz QPI

Temps are from Real Temp 2.90
vCore is from CPU-Z 1.49
Stability tested with LinX x 20 and Prime for 1-6 hours

Relevant BIOS settings:
Turbo: off
QPI link: x36
Uncore: x16
Load-Line Calibration: enabled
Everything else not mentioned: Auto/Default

4.0ghz (20x200) HT enabled @ 1.344v load, 1.360-1.376v idle
vCore: 1.40000v
vDIMM: 1.660v (1.65v in HW Monitor)
vQPI: 1.355v
LinX max temps: 83, 83, 81, 82

4.0ghz (20x200) Hyperthreading DISABLED @ 1.248v load, 1.264 idle
Timings: 9-9-9-24-1T (Haven't tested with 8-8-8-21-1T yet, should work)
vCore: 1.29375
vDIMM: 1.60v
vQPI: 1.335v
LinX max temps: 61 61 61 61

Idle temps with HT on @ 1.376v: 37 35 38 37
Ambient temp: ~20C
I haven't done testing with the 3rd stick of RAM yet because my second fan gets in the way of the heatsink on the PI Black stick.

I have the motherboard mounted to a removable motherboard tray laying flat on a table. My TRUE 120 extreme is not lapped and has a very uneven surface. I used a big blob of the paste that came with the TRUE 120 extreme in the middle of the IHS and screwed her down evenly.

Is this chip worthy of liquid cooling?

It seems to me that I'm ready to go for gaming at the moment with no cooling upgrades.

I'm sure the cooling will still be adequate for HT disabled even in a hot room with one less fan based on the LinX temps I am getting.

Looking good m8. How are you finding the F5c bios - stable? problems?

Just curious as I have not used the F5c yet.

Mark

[stasio]

Looking good m8. How are you finding the F5c bios - stable? problems?

Just curious as I have not used the F5c yet.

Mark

UD5-F5d and Ex-F5c on the way

[GAR]

All these bios's are pointless without a decent change log.

[Splave]

+2 I aggree %100

[ReverendMaynard]

+2 I aggree %100

+17. Maybe they don't want us to know that they aren't changing anything? lol.

[JWMc]

Looking good m8. How are you finding the F5c bios - stable? problems?

Just curious as I have not used the F5c yet.

Mark

No new problems with F5c. Still gets unhappy with soft reboot (hang) after long priming at borderline too low voltage. I finally got that sorted out with more voltage. However it still does the repeated 'C1' state on bootup and occasionally dies and restarts right after being powered up.

4.0 ghz with HT @ vCore: 1.40625 bios, 1.360 load, 1.376 idle, vQPI: 1.3750, 83c max real-temp LinX, 6 hours prime blend.

I enjoy overclocking this board on the table because of the lights and power/reset/clear-cmos buttons. I also enjoyed how the F5c BIOS version was retained after my main BIOS chip was corrupted from an undervolt boot crash loop and the dual-BIOS feature restored from backup. I dialed in the same settings I was using with those small changes and have been stable ever since. I did some gaming and 3dmark2006 with 4870 crossfire. The next thing I need to do is test the 19x multi and see if I can get even lower volts. Then, finally I will test with one fan (still using the other a bit) and all 3 ram sticks.

[GAR]

@ STASIO, since you work for Gigabyte and seem to be getting all the bios files, see if you can get us a change log with it, thanks.

[DRAGONKZ]

Does anyone still have a copy of the extreme F5a bios? I just flashed to F5b and now my PC won't boot off my HDD :-/

Going back to the official F4 works fine.

As said above, a change log would be nice.

[stasio]

Sorry guys,but I receive only BIOS without changelog(even for my mobo UD3P).
Once I know,of course I will post here.
Btw,
EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5c released.
Edit:
Thx to kimi

[Kimi.Rk]

Sorry guys,but I receive only BIOS without changelog(even for my mobo UD3P).
Once I know,of course I will post here.
Btw,
EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F4c released.

f4c??? f5c!! heheheh

[Kimi.Rk]

But possible that gigabyte is not able to do a decent bios for the ex 58 extreme? Boot fake, poor performances, and unusuals other problems.
The rampage 2 for istance with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 21000 read,20000 write,23000 copy.
Gigabyte ex 58 extreme with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 19000 read,17000 write,20500 copy
Test diabolo 2000 d9gtr with ram.
asus has a parameter configuration cpu that if you set up it the ram takes a big boost. c-state? possible?
Gigabyte no?

[tonytiger]

You might remember a previous post when i had problems getting above bclk 172.Well i have a new i7 920 which booted straight away @180!Anyway i have another strange problem.In the bios all 3 channels are showing for the memory but only 4096 is displayed at post ,when i booted into Vista x64the o/s is only showing 4gig.If i look at cpuz it is showing 6gig and triple channel.Anyone else had this problem?

If have done the following.

Reflashed and cleared cmos
Reloaded bios defaults.

All settings @ stock (when i first installed the cpu i used dram v1.66 and no more than 1.275 on qpi/vtt to test bclk 180)

Default volts:

cpu 1.2
dram 1.54
qpi/vtt 1.175

Re-seated the memory
swapped the sticks around

tested each stick in ddr3_1 slot -each test displayed 2gig
tested dual channel in dd3 3_1 and ddr3 3_3 -displayed 4gig

with all three channels only 4gig is displayed on post.

The memory appears to be ok.

[Leeghoofd]

Joining the ranks here, first boot seems nice, very fast platform this Nehalem ! slowly burning in the CPU



For the moment I left all voltage options on AUTO besides the Vcore and the ram voltage ( 1.7v )... QPI is read out 1.4 by ET6. Isn't that a bit too high ?

EDIT : Tried manully to go as low as possible on the PQI voltage. I need 1.24 to get into windows and to remain stable... any lower than 1.22 and Windows reboots when entering the desktop, dropped down Vcore again a notch. I let her fold for a few days before pushing harder...

[Splave]

any thoughts on how to get this ram working?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148147

Ordered 3 sticks and non of them post, tryed each by themselves.
Everything starts to run fans spin up etc then stops like on bad OC settings,
then it trys again and fails in a non stop loop of failure

According to this it should work
http://www.intel.com/technology/memo...CC_results.htm

[tonytiger]

Its looks like i have found the problem.One of the pins at the bottom of the socket 1366 was slightly bent .Not sure how i carefully put the cpu in and it only goes one way!After bending it back in postion (not easy used a small needle pinhead) its posts with 6gig.

[Bjynne]

So has any of you guys tested the new F5C bios for the Extreme?

[ReverendMaynard]

any thoughts on how to get this ram working?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148147

Ordered 3 sticks and non of them post, tryed each by themselves.
Everything starts to run fans spin up etc then stops like on bad OC settings,
then it trys again and fails in a non stop loop of failure

According to this it should work
http://www.intel.com/technology/memo...CC_results.htm

Old sticks in, boot, change setting to reflect new sticks, save and exit and power off immediately, change sticks, boot, if it doesn't work try two sticks, then one.

[Splave]

Old sticks in, boot, change setting to reflect new sticks, save and exit and power off immediately, change sticks, boot, if it doesn't work try two sticks, then one.

will try this when I get home thanks rev

[ReverendMaynard]

will try this when I get home thanks rev

you probably already wen through those steps but I figured I'd throw it out there.

Have you tried both colored slots?

[crashmax]

F5c = same reboot problem over 170BCLK as F4, F5a and F5b

[Pyr0]

UD5 F5d bios now up @ tweaktown
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/

[Hornet331]

But possible that gigabyte is not able to do a decent bios for the ex 58 extreme? Boot fake, poor performances, and unusuals other problems.
The rampage 2 for istance with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 21000 read,20000 write,23000 copy.
Gigabyte ex 58 extreme with memories to 1600 7-6-6 in everest registers 19000 read,17000 write,20500 copy
Test diabolo 2000 d9gtr with ram.
asus has a parameter configuration cpu that if you set up it the ram takes a big boost. c-state? possible?
Gigabyte no?

How about if you look at the sub timings before complaining about "performance sucks".

[Splave]

you probably already wen through those steps but I figured I'd throw it out there.

Have you tried both colored slots?

have only tried the second set of slots

[Nilos]

Joining the ranks here, first boot seems nice, very fast platform this Nehalem ! slowly burning in the CPU



For the moment I left all voltage options on AUTO besides the Vcore and the ram voltage ( 1.7v )... QPI is read out 1.4 by ET6. Isn't that a bit too high ?

EDIT : Tried manully to go as low as possible on the PQI voltage. I need 1.24 to get into windows and to remain stable... any lower than 1.22 and Windows reboots when entering the desktop, dropped down Vcore again a notch. I let her fold for a few days before pushing harder...

Enjoy the club Albrecht!