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    Quote Originally Posted by orbiter View Post
    Yes... Exactly the same procedure as I used to flash it to the Rampage and from the same USB drive with the same files on it + the 1302.ROM

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    Try grabbing an older different bios from asus's site and reflash, make sure it's a bios that supports 45nm however. make sure you DL it at default clocks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Maximus X38 is 45nm quad limited.
    425-430 FSB seems to be the limit, there are few rare exceptions but not many. Thats why I bought a MIIF
    Rampage bios will not resolve this issue......
    I've finally given in to this fact and I'm shopping the Maximus II and Rampage x48. How does the Rampage x48 fare with the 45nm quads? I'd rather get that than a p45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Try grabbing an older different bios from asus's site and reflash, make sure it's a bios that supports 45nm however. make sure you DL it at default clocks....
    OK chew thanks.. Still fiddling with 0701 right now though just incase there's something I've missed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJR View Post
    I've finally given in to this fact and I'm shopping the Maximus II and Rampage x48. How does the Rampage x48 fare with the 45nm quads? I'd rather get that than a p45.
    Both board have there strengths and weakness.
    Rampage will serve you well, If cost is not a factor then grab a Rampage for sure.

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    I've now got a tad higher guys with the rampage BIOS... 3.82GHz with a bit of extra CPU voltage 1.3200v and Primed for 1hour without fail

    Grnfinger.. Do you think the Rampage Formula or Extreme board would hold up better than the Formula II for a Q9650 when going for 4+GHz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbiter View Post
    I've now got a tad higher guys with the rampage BIOS... 3.82GHz with a bit of extra CPU voltage 1.3200v and Primed for 1hour without fail

    Grnfinger.. Do you think the Rampage Formula or Extreme board would hold up better than the Formula II for a Q9650 when going for 4+GHz?

    Kind Regards

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    the nb and pwm area are better suited for quad 45nm on mfII however the rampage x48 has been known to clock 45nm quad beyond 500fsb as well. i guess its really the choice should boil down to whether you are going to run crossfire or not. personally i would take the rampage as you can run tighter settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    the nb and pwm area are better suited for quad 45nm on mfII however the rampage x48 has been known to clock 45nm quad beyond 500fsb as well. i guess its really the choice should boil down to whether you are going to run crossfire or not. personally i would take the rampage as you can run tighter settings.

    Thanks for the info there Zen . Is the Rampage Formula a better bet than the Rampage Extreme? I'm not really bothered about Xfire or Sli as I'm quite happy with a single card. I just want the best board I can afford right now as I'm gunna give i7 a miss especially after just buying my Q9650.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by orbiter View Post
    Thanks for the info there Zen . Is the Rampage Formula a better bet than the Rampage Extreme? I'm not really bothered about Xfire or Sli as I'm quite happy with a single card. I just want the best board I can afford right now as I'm gunna give i7 a miss especially after just buying my Q9650.

    Thanks again

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    Rampage Xtreme is DDR3
    Rampage is DDR2

    Both are stellar boards, Xtreme is the top dog for sure, if you can afford the board and ram, get it.

    Rampage vs Maximus II Formula..

    Zen is correct it boils down to personal choice,
    Clock for clock they perform about equal, BUT MIIF runs cooler so for air its a wise choice. NB, FSBT, PLL and vCORE all require less volts on a MIIF.

    Rampage runs much hotter, the NB requires alot more juice, Ram can be run alittle tighter...My secong MIIF was supposed to be a Rampage but Asus drop'd the ball on my RMA, so I cant do my side by side

    Bottom line, take some time to educate yourself about the pros/cons of both boards. Decide what you want out of the board and make your choice based on YOUR opinion, in the end thats all that matters...your happy with your hardware.

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    Grn can you suggest a ram kit that excelled really well with this board? 2x2g preferably
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Grn can you suggest a ram kit that excelled really well with this board? 2x2g preferably
    Best kit I used on this board was Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 handpicked Micron D9GMH ic's

    GSkills' 8500 kit is good to about 1140-1150MHz, 1170MHz if you relax the timings and pump the volts to 2.25
    There 8800 kit it very good, 1.8volts for 1130MHz, they max out avout 1150 or so, alittle higher if you get a cherry kit.
    Muskins XP-2 8500 max out at about 1175MHz
    I hear good things about Mushkin Redlines but never bought them
    ZenEffect might be a better person to ask, he has done some nice things with a few different kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Both board have there strengths and weakness.
    Rampage will serve you well, If cost is not a factor then grab a Rampage for sure.
    If all goes as planned, I should have a Rampage soon... this 430fsb wall is killing me!

    EDIT: Damn!!! I went to get the open-box Rampage I saw on newegg and they were gone! Guess I'll be getting a full retail version, huh. Either way, no turning back now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJR View Post
    If all goes as planned, I should have a Rampage soon... this 430fsb wall is killing me!

    EDIT: Damn!!! I went to get the open-box Rampage I saw on newegg and they were gone! Guess I'll be getting a full retail version, huh. Either way, no turning back now.
    I might be interestd in your board, you ship to Canada ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    the nb and pwm area are better suited for quad 45nm on mfII however the rampage x48 has been known to clock 45nm quad beyond 500fsb as well. i guess its really the choice should boil down to whether you are going to run crossfire or not. personally i would take the rampage as you can run tighter settings.
    Ok brilliant, thanks for the advice Zen I'm not going Xfire or SLi however I might upgrade to a XFX GTX 280 XXX if I can find one or go GTX295 in after I get the new board.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Rampage Xtreme is DDR3
    Rampage is DDR2

    Both are stellar boards, Xtreme is the top dog for sure, if you can afford the board and ram, get it.

    Rampage vs Maximus II Formula..

    Zen is correct it boils down to personal choice,
    Clock for clock they perform about equal, BUT MIIF runs cooler so for air its a wise choice. NB, FSBT, PLL and vCORE all require less volts on a MIIF.

    Rampage runs much hotter, the NB requires alot more juice, Ram can be run alittle tighter...My secong MIIF was supposed to be a Rampage but Asus drop'd the ball on my RMA, so I cant do my side by side

    Bottom line, take some time to educate yourself about the pros/cons of both boards. Decide what you want out of the board and make your choice based on YOUR opinion, in the end thats all that matters...your happy with your hardware.
    Yea I for got a about the Extreme being DDR3, so I'll take a closer look at the Formula II and the Rampage, see how the cash situation pans out although I like the idea of less voltage and heat on the Formula II.

    Thanks again very much for all your help you guys, you've helped a lot. I'm sure your see me again once the new board arrives in a few weeks.

    Kind regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Best kit I used on this board was Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 handpicked Micron D9GMH ic's

    GSkills' 8500 kit is good to about 1140-1150MHz, 1170MHz if you relax the timings and pump the volts to 2.25
    There 8800 kit it very good, 1.8volts for 1130MHz, they max out avout 1150 or so, alittle higher if you get a cherry kit.
    Muskins XP-2 8500 max out at about 1175MHz
    I hear good things about Mushkin Redlines but never bought them
    ZenEffect might be a better person to ask, he has done some nice things with a few different kits.
    what did you get your dominators up to? i was able to max my crucials out at 1333 5-5-5-5 now its time to pull my mushkins out of the freezer.

    Quote Originally Posted by orbiter View Post
    Ok brilliant, thanks for the advice Zen I'm not going Xfire or SLi however I might upgrade to a XFX GTX 280 XXX if I can find one or go GTX295 in after I get the new board.

    Thanks again

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    you should consider what kind of board you are going to get though whether it be xfire or sli, the reason is you can always add another video card once they become obsolete and you would most likely catch up to the newest revision (whenever that is) as far as performance without having to spend alot of money all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
    I can't even post at PL7 at 423*9 . I've tried a few different pull-ins on PL9 and it's not stable. I reboot after ~45minutes of Prime blended. The same with PL8. I suppose it's the 8GB holding me back.

    Has anyone had success with overvolting the MCH with +10mV (or 20, 30?)

    EDIT:
    I'm going to try testing with 2x2GB sticks later.
    Are you using the blue slots or white? Have you tried the other? What about going tighter on the PL (6)?

    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Tested extensively with OCZ ddr 1066, don't expect anything more than 1110 out of them for 24/7 stable. Tried every option in bios save slack timings which would be pointless.

    From a different point of view this is better than those who bought OCZ ddrII 1200 that can't reach 1200 speeds with this board, IIRC they max out at 1150.
    I think I asked this before, but don't remember if you responded (I'm sorry if I missed it): which OCZ do you have? AFAIK there are different revisions, and they use different vdimm. I didn't see a revision number on mine, but the rated vdimm is 2.2v. Are yours the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t_ski View Post
    Are you using the blue slots or white? Have you tried the other? What about going tighter on the PL (6)?



    I think I asked this before, but don't remember if you responded (I'm sorry if I missed it): which OCZ do you have? AFAIK there are different revisions, and they use different vdimm. I didn't see a revision number on mine, but the rated vdimm is 2.2v. Are yours the same?
    I tried both slots when I tested 2 sticks. I didn't try PL6.....I would be certainly surprised if it would post at 6 but not 7. I guess it's worth a shot though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by orbiter View Post
    Ok brilliant, thanks for the advice Zen I'm not going Xfire or SLi however I might upgrade to a XFX GTX 280 XXX if I can find one or go GTX295 in after I get the new board.

    Thanks again

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    i know where u can get a dfi lt x48 for cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
    I tried both slots when I tested 2 sticks. I didn't try PL6.....I would be certainly surprised if it would post at 6 but not 7. I guess it's worth a shot though....
    Everybody keep saying this board likes the memory tight. I was able to get my ram up to 1081 at PL6 I had to drop down to PL7 when I tried to get it over 1100

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    Quote Originally Posted by t_ski View Post
    Are you using the blue slots or white? Have you tried the other? What about going tighter on the PL (6)?



    I think I asked this before, but don't remember if you responded (I'm sorry if I missed it): which OCZ do you have? AFAIK there are different revisions, and they use different vdimm. I didn't see a revision number on mine, but the rated vdimm is 2.2v. Are yours the same?

    Mine are 2.2v rated dimms, they are rather new....., 6 will not post with this ram, I have only used the slots closest to cpu for now as i'm on bios 0701 and working on my 3d scores, I will go back on 0308 and tackle bandwidth with ram once i'm done and try both slots.


    Here's all air 18K 3d06 with cpu @ 3.6 and single card 512mb 4870........Still running untweaked OS.
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    Thanks chew*

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    hi guys,
    long time since i don't look for this and hope anything came out.. is there any heatsink which fits the Maximus/Rampage Formula SB? thanks in advance for your help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Checkmate grn although your ram bandwidth has me blown away, 0701 sux for memory bandwidth....so bad I didn't even screenshot everest....I'll retry with 0308.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Checkmate grn although your ram bandwidth has me blown away, 0701 sux for memory bandwidth....so bad I didn't even screenshot everest....I'll retry with 0308.
    Mine was done on 308 bios.
    I wish I still had the board, I might buy one from the for sale section here, I miss my Maxi-Page

    On a brighter side got a nice package today


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Mine was done on 308 bios.
    I wish I still had the board, I might buy one from the for sale section here, I miss my Maxi-Page

    On a brighter side got a nice package today
    Nice how much that run you? I was offered one new never used for $350, so freaking tempted. My single 4870 is a beast, Hopefully the OC gods are with you and that clocks like my 4870, 875/1100 air

    BTW was just messing with yah above I was a hair slower than you at same clocks Likely ram, I needed like 75mhz cpu speed to beat ya or the os tweaked to hell and SP1. 75mhz was easier.
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    Card cost a cool 385 shipped, bought it from Gautam figured it was a safe deal.
    Itching like a junkie to test the card out but sadly no waterblock yet...I might run it on air (sacrilege) to see what it can do for a few days.

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