AMD Phenom II Review Thread

[naokaji]

If you are right about Intel's relative peace(and I think you are), then unless Intel wants AMD to stick around, they will have the means to put them to the sword and finally get rid of them.

They always had the means to wipe them out, but they chose not to and even allowed them to sell x86 cpu's..

It was always by their choice that they let AMD live, same goes for Nvidia, Via, Sis, Ati (before it became amd).
Remember, Intel has one of the biggest R&d Budgets in the IT Industry, they could get rid of any Company they see as a Competition at any time they want with only a slight temporary financial set back, then just jack up the prices once the competition is gone to make up for it.

Anyway, Phenom 2 is going to give Intel some competition in the midrange market and once the cut down phenom 2's come out (dual / tri cores) also in the budget market, but don't forget that Intel does have a ace up it's sleeve, it's the I5 and will be much cheaper than I7.

[Chad Boga]

They always had the means to wipe them out, heck, they even had to give the ok for them to even start selling cpu's...
It was always by their choice that they let AMD live, same goes for Nvidia, Via, Sis, Ati (before it became amd).
Remember, Intel has one of the biggest R&d Budgets in the IT Industry, they could get rid of any Company they see as a Competition at any time they want with only a slight temporary financial set back, then just jack up the prices once the competition is gone to make up for it.

Not so. If they tried blatant price dumping, they would run afoul of the Federal Trade Commission and run the real risk of being broken up.

If you go back to the time when Intel only had the Prescott, AMD were so much stronger it just wasn't feasible that Intel could have put them out of business.

But since AMD scored an own goal purchasing ATI and then compounded things by losing their competitive edge, Intel are now in a position(also helped along by the World Recession) to put AMD out of business if they so choose, and most likely avoid sanction by the Federal Trade Commission and Justice Department.

Anyway, Phenom 2 is going to give Intel some competition in the midrange market and once the cut down phenom 2's come out (dual / tri cores) also in the budget market, but don't forget that Intel does have a ace up it's sleeve, it's the I5 and will be much cheaper than I7.

Oh I haven't forgotten, that is why I believe AMD's position is so parlous, as their roadmap shows they have nothing to compete effectively against it, and then there is the prospect of 32nm Westmere in 2010.

That could mean that for all of 2010, AMD's competitive position against Intel is actually worse than at ANY time in the last 2.5years and we have already seen the devastation that Intel wreaked upon them with Conroe against the K8.

[saveus222]

They always had the means to wipe them out, but they chose not to and even allowed them to sell x86 cpu's..

It was always by their choice that they let AMD live, same goes for Nvidia, Via, Sis, Ati (before it became amd).
Remember, Intel has one of the biggest R&d Budgets in the IT Industry, they could get rid of any Company they see as a Competition at any time they want with only a slight temporary financial set back, then just jack up the prices once the competition is gone to make up for it.

Anyway, Phenom 2 is going to give Intel some competition in the midrange market and once the cut down phenom 2's come out (dual / tri cores) also in the budget market, but don't forget that Intel does have a ace up it's sleeve, it's the I5 and will be much cheaper than I7.

huh.. listen to urself.. what about FTC and all the antitrust lawsuits that would follow.. ??