The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Using the same installation as before? Just overwriting or what? I have to reactivate Vista too :p
I'm going to update the chipset drivers tonight. Maybe the Intel installation program will recognize different driver files or something.
Thanks!

BTW enjoy that 4870X2....she's a beast!

You can overwrite older chipset drivers, but I do a clean install.
fyi grab a OEM version of Vista and activation will be a thing of the past.
Dell's OEM version works ratehr well.

[binormalkilla]

You can overwrite older chipset drivers, but I do a clean install.
fyi grab a OEM version of Vista and activation will be a thing of the past.
Dell's OEM version works ratehr well.

Yea I bought that retail copy....meh. I'm going to overwrite for now, but if I have any problems then I'll just reinstall.

[Grnfinger]

Need some help! can someone with a q6600 and some g skill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk memory post their bios settings.I had to reflash the bios and didnt save my oc and now cannot get 3.6ghz stable.
Thnak You

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Performance Level 7

CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

[ZenEffect]

Jeebus man that is some sweet ram, NICE timings!!

gotta link?

this ram was discontinued in 2007

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148144

dropped it down to 2.14v memtest86+ 100% stable

and screw vista, get server2008!

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the link m8, To bad about the ram, I'm sure I could find it tho, we have great resources at work!

Server 2k8 any good for gaming/networking?
I game and I need ax to work computers via VPN, I have 5 computers at home all networked and a NAS, so it MUST work

[binormalkilla]

Should I try increasing my clock skew to 350ps (picoseconds?) in order to help RAM stability? I still can't post at DDR2-1140 I'm at 300ps right now....haven't tried 250 either....

[ZenEffect]

Thanks for the link m8, To bad about the ram, I'm sure I could find it tho, we have great resources at work!

Server 2k8 any good for gaming/networking?
I game and I need ax to work computers via VPN, I have 5 computers at home all networked and a NAS, so it MUST work

since ive switched back to 2gb im using xp, but server2008 was my main os for quite a while. its faster than vista, rock solid, and can look exactly like vista aero. you can download it for free and use it for 240 days. the conversion is really easy, use this utility and enable/disable what you want. for the gameux dll file, copy it into the system32 directory first or it will give you an error. also extract all the files first it is very very important. you can configure what services run after that.

you will LOVE the power of the os.

also, more pr0n, i was trying to see how the voltage scaling would go and ran out of cpu shortly after hitting this its a bit looser timings, but you will love the speed. this ram is incredible on this motherboard.



5-5-5-15 @ 2.32v

[KALISPIMENTA]

Thank you for such detailed settings grnfinger will text tonight

[binormalkilla]

I can't even post at PL7 at 423*9 . I've tried a few different pull-ins on PL9 and it's not stable. I reboot after ~45minutes of Prime blended. The same with PL8. I suppose it's the 8GB holding me back.

Has anyone had success with overvolting the MCH with +10mV (or 20, 30?)

EDIT:
I'm going to try testing with 2x2GB sticks later.

[MJR]

hey guys. I have an opportunity to basically swap out my board for a true x48 Rampage. Would I be able to break the with that board? How high do the Q9550 go on the x48 Rampage? or shoudl I look for a p45 if I want to push this chip?

[binormalkilla]

Ok well no luck on any better PL settings with 2 sticks....what gives? Something's missing.....maybe my MCH just isn't the best compared to others? Meh......not giving up yet....runing 0701 BIOS, so maybe I should go with another version?

[ZenEffect]

Ok well no luck on any better PL settings with 2 sticks....what gives? Something's missing.....maybe my MCH just isn't the best compared to others? Meh......not giving up yet....runing 0701 BIOS, so maybe I should go with another version?

what is your settings?

[binormalkilla]

what is your settings?

Check this post. I've tried a lot of different voltages, different pull-ins, CLK skews, you name it. I'm stable at these settings, which gets me just shy of 9K write and 57.2ns in Everest. I came from a 4GB Geil Esoteria kit that ran DDR2-1128 at really high voltage (something like 2.4V, but it warrantied up to 2.5V.) I was in the 9s with that kit IIRC.

[ZenEffect]

333 strap, pl7, clock twister to moderate. you will probalby want to drop your fsbt and nb volts. your computer is crying in pain from those volts. also i have not ever had to exceed 200 skew. it could be that your ram does not want to clock that high.

you could always buy my dfi too... that is supposed to cruise 8gb no problem.

[binormalkilla]

333 strap, pl7, clock twister to moderate. you will probalby want to drop your fsbt and nb volts. your computer is crying in pain from those volts. also i have not ever had to exceed 200 skew. it could be that your ram does not want to clock that high.

you could always buy my dfi too... that is supposed to cruise 8gb no problem.

Yea I only have my NBV that high for testing. I have it on water so it loads in Prime blended at 32C. I'll try turning down the FSBT, but IIRC it needed to be fairly high....maybe not that high though :p

BTW I'll try moderate, but I wouldn't even post at lighter at PL7 IIRC. I tried 333 strap as well. I'll give it another shot though. Thanks!

PL7 is still a no go with those settings

[ZenEffect]

Yea I only have my NBV that high for testing. I have it on water so it loads in Prime blended at 32C. I'll try turning down the FSBT, but IIRC it needed to be fairly high....maybe not that high though :p

BTW I'll try moderate, but I wouldn't even post at lighter at PL7 IIRC. I tried 333 strap as well. I'll give it another shot though. Thanks!

PL7 is still a no go with those settings

my guess is your ram is not going to clock as high as hoped.

[binormalkilla]

my guess is your ram is not going to clock as high as hoped.

Yea I don't think it will either.....however my tRD should be able to be tightened independently of the RAM from what I've read.
Maybe I'll try another BIOS version.

[Grnfinger]

Yea I don't think it will either.....however my tRD should be able to be tightened independently of the RAM from what I've read.
Maybe I'll try another BIOS version.

try 4GBs and see if you can clock the ram a little higher.
I have never needed anything above 1.53 for vNB and that was at 485+FSB
bios 308 is still the best imo

[Flameout]

Hi I need help please to overclock Q9450 which I have managed to overclock to 3.21GHZ but cannot go any higher as really I am not sure what I need to do, and unfortunatly I dont have the time to do the trail and error approach as I have a young family and my wifes giving me what for for spending hours on my pc!
I have flashed my Maximus formula to Rampage and I am using bios 601 .
I have Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066 ram

I would like to get 3.4 or 3.6 ghz is this possible on air cooling?
Any help or settings would be greatly appriciated!

My settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 DRam clocks
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage :auto
South Bridge Voltage : auto
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Auto
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
vDroop Mod / vCore Mod / EPU Mod

[chew*]

Tested extensively with OCZ ddr 1066, don't expect anything more than 1110 out of them for 24/7 stable. Tried every option in bios save slack timings which would be pointless.

From a different point of view this is better than those who bought OCZ ddrII 1200 that can't reach 1200 speeds with this board, IIRC they max out at 1150.

[xxDayTrader]

Ugh...... I'm about to throw in the towel after yet another Prime failure last night.

CPU : 1.575 (actual 1.56)
PLL : 1.52
NB : 1.49
FSB T : 1.52 (actual 1.62)


Before I go crazy I think I need to get some clarification. As you can see, I've got my voltages pretty high as it is (max temps were 80 in 2 cores with 15 degrees to tjmax) and I think I'm at the level where pushing my cpu or vtt with any more juice might start doing some damage (although, I may be off base here).

Is it likely that the 48k error I had was due to something else like my RAM, graphics card, PCI-E frequency, or maybe even Windows? I ask because when I woke up and turned my monitor on to see how the night went with Prime, Windows was acting "funny." I was as if someone was hitting Alt/Tab all the time because every time I'd click on the prime window, the realtemp window, or even the start "button," within a few seconds that window would de-select itself. Just shutting down without resorting to holding in the power button took some quick finger speed to key the windows key, arrow down and hit enter to get "shut down." This may have been because of a Tivo Server program that I had installed because there were half a dozen Tivo Server error boxes open as well - I uninstalled it this AM.

Hell, I dunno. I'm frustrated and not sure what to do next. I don't drink anymore so getting bombed isn't an option like it used to be.

Lay it on me fellas. Would a reformat / window reinstall do any good? (I hesitate because, like an idiot, I have a lot of data on my c-drive and I'm not sure I have enough space on my other drives to hold it all......not to mention tracking down all my firefox favorites, password saves, game sign-ons and saves, and so forth) Should I continue to raise voltages? Should I just call it "close enough is good enough" with 9hrs stable and leave things alone? Should I go back to 9x400 and see how that works? Should I sell this rig on ebay and go buy a Dell and quit bothering all of you?

[Zucker2k]

Yea I don't think it will either.....however my tRD should be able to be tightened independently of the RAM from what I've read.
Maybe I'll try another BIOS version.

So are you running 950 or 1140?

Ugh...... I'm about to throw in the towel after yet another Prime failure last night.

CPU : 1.575 (actual 1.56)
PLL : 1.52
NB : 1.49
FSB T : 1.52 (actual 1.62)

That chip is too hot. What cpu gtls are you running?

[chew*]

Day how new is your Q6xxx series chip?

Mine is from an old batch and a year old. Older batches clocked better. The newer batches are ok at best might just be your chip holding you back. Heard a lot of experienced guys feeling like chumps at overclocking with the newer batch Q6xxx.

[xxDayTrader]

Day how new is your Q6xxx series chip?

Mine is from an old batch and a year old. Older batches clocked better. The newer batches are ok at best might just be your chip holding you back. Heard a lot of experienced guys feeling like chumps at overclocking with the newer batch Q6xxx.

I bought it in Feb 08 +/- direct from Intel (through an Intel employee).

[xxDayTrader]

That chip is too hot. What cpu gtls are you running?

CPU GTL : .67
and NB GTL : .67