Phenom II Spec is not clear!?! ... Whats happening Brothers!!!

[Eson]

Sigh not this again. I don't know for 100% sure but AM2+ and AM3 Denebs are identical. Half the point with Deneb is a smooth transition from DDR2 to DDR3. As AMD claims; Buy processor now, upgrade motherboard later. And as ive said 5 times or so now: The AM2+ tag is probably to make it clear that this processor fit in AM2+ motherboards. If it was AM3 tagged no one not knowing would buy it and use it in AM2+ motherboards.
There are no AM3 motherboards available so people wouldn't buy any AM3 processors.
However a 'AM2+/AM3' tag would make everything much clearer.

the reason why they had an am2+ one and an am3 one was because originally the am2+ was going to be released much earlier. you guys can wait and see if it has ddr3 support but i know for a fact the am2+ ones won't support it.

I want to see those facts.

[Mats]

As AMD claims; Buy processor now, upgrade motherboard later.

Isn't it the other way around, buy a mobo and upgrde CPU later?
I mean, the CPU's are backwards compatible, not the (DDR3) mobos.

[roofsniper]

I want to see those facts.

look at the amd k10h bios developers guide. as many have said already it clearly states in there that am2+ doesn't support ddr3 and am3 does. and this was released before the first phenoms even were. plus as some on this forum have said it is disabled by fuses and the am2+ can't run ddr3. it is disabled on the chip and there is no way to actually change it. plus theres also the idea that it would make no sense at all to release two identical chips in different packages. and then i have already spoken to an amd employee who says it clearly can't and also says its disabled by fuses. if it comes out supporting ddr3 it will be a surprise to everyone. even amd employees i bet. they will wonder which one of them slipped that crap in there.