The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[chew*]

My temps are somewhere around 50-60C on Prime95. Does FSBT help improve PL settings? I thought that was only FSB.....
Anyhow, I can't even post at DDR2-1141......meh.

binorma if those are the OCZ plats they start erroring around 1120, I really haven't played with them that much yet, I will see if I can get memtest to pass higher.

[xxDayTrader]

Well, after a lonnnng weekend, I think I'm finally on the right path with my OC. After a lot of help and suggestions, I was still getting errors in Prime (usually in the 8k tests). {Previous post with full BIOS : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=7827}. I documented every setting, and switched CPU, PLL, N Bridge, and FSBTerm to Auto, rebooted and took note of the readings in the BIOS hardware section.
CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.616
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.568
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05

Even in auto, I got Prime failures within the first minute. So, I took these settings and did my best to incorporate what was suggested to me here and came up with:
CPU Voltage : 1.5625 / actual : 1.552
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56 / actual : 1.664
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.552
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.584

I got an error in Prime after an hour and a half but it did make it through the 8k range. From there I cut the PLL a bit (per Grnfinger's earlier recommendations), ran Prime, added to VTT, ran Prime, cut PLL again, more Prime, then bumped vcore and ran Prime again. That last move has been stable for almost 6hrs (once through Prime) and is still going (settings below)

CPU Voltage : 1.568 / actual : 1.552 (raise of .02 didn't show an increase in bios hardware)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.61 - 1.63
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 / actual : 1.616


Assuming Prime is stable for 24hrs, I'm tempted to leave things where they are unless someone sees an error in my setup process, something alarming or something that could or should be improved.


EDIT: I'm kinda worried about my temps. I know they don't get to the 76 degree mark during normal use but is this something I should be fearful of? Considering every attempt to run a lower vcore results in Prime failures, I'm assuming I just happen to have one of those chips (or motherboards) that needs a lot of juice to OC.

[chew*]

Have you lapped with 800 grit, If you have lapped with higher relap with 800, higher grit hurts temps, what kind of paste.....arctic silver ceramic helps, are you running dual fans on that TRUE, and if you have done all of the above you can try adding a washer to the TRUE to apply more pressure.

[xxDayTrader]

Have you lapped with 800 grit, If you have lapped with higher relap with 800, higher grit hurts temps, what kind of paste.....arctic silver ceramic helps, are you running dual fans on that TRUE, and if you have done all of the above you can try adding a washer to the TRUE to apply more pressure.

CPU and the TRUE were both lapped down to 1500 grit (what can I say, i went to a military college and we shined stuff to the extreme). Perhaps I went too fine on the grit. I've read posts that support stopping at 800, others that said going finer was ok and others that said the finer the grit the better. I 'may' have used too much TIM (Artic Silver 5 btw). I don't think I did, but it's possible. Perhaps I'll take my rig apart and remount my heatsink. I knew my Silverstone TJ07 case wasn't the best for aircooling but my temps rise one or two degrees (in prime) when I have the side panel in place. (the dual fan / exhaust into the pc chamber video card I have doesn't help either). I do plan to go water-cooling eventually, just not right away ($).



That said...... do the temps seem out of place given the vcore setting I'm using?

[Simkin]

Hello!

anyone have settings for maximus bios to reach 3.8Ghz on Q6600? whats best here? 475X8 or 423X9?

i have now 3.6Ghz stable, thanks to settings from this thread

[chew*]

CPU and the TRUE were both lapped down to 1500 grit (what can I say, i went to a military college and we shined stuff to the extreme). Perhaps I went too fine on the grit. I've read posts that support stopping at 800 an others that said going finer was ok. I 'may' have used too much TIM (Artic Silver 5 btw). I don't think I did, but it's possible. Perhaps I'll take my rig apart and remount my heatsink. I knew my Silverstone TJ07 case wasn't the best for aircooling but my temps rise one or two degrees (in prime) when I have the side panel in place. (the dual fan / exhaust into the pc chamber video card I have doesn't help either). I do plan to go water-cooling eventually, just not right away ($).



That said...... do the temps seem out of place given the vcore setting I'm using?

Hard to say, each chips runs different, for instance mine runs hot even with low volts. FOr those volts it seems cool to me, just offering up more ways to bring temps down a tad more

@ simkin, if your board/cpu/ram is capable 475x8 will net you better bandwidth.

[xxDayTrader]

Re. temps........ what should I be trying to keep my NB at and what program to you (you all) like for NB temps? I have Asus Probe II but it's kinda buggy (ie picking up 4V readings on my DRAM for example) and sets off alarms that mysteriously fix themselves.

[xxDayTrader]

Anyone know what I should look to adjust for this failure 12 1/2 hrs in (man, it's alllllllways on core 3)?

CPU Voltage : 1.568 / actual : 1.552
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.61 - 1.63
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 / actual : 1.616
RealTemp recored max temps of 78 for 2 cores, 73 for the other two cores (idle temps now are high 30's to mid 40's)

[OLDcomer]

At last, I found some stable settings for q6600@3.8GHz:
Bios: 308
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 422
CPU Voltage: 1.55 (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
North Bridge Voltage: 1.41
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 0.67x

[Zucker2k]

Anyone know what I should look to adjust for this failure 12 1/2 hrs in (man, it's alllllllways on core 3)?

CPU Voltage : 1.568 / actual : 1.552
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.61 - 1.63
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 / actual : 1.616
RealTemp recored max temps of 78 for 2 cores, 73 for the other two cores (idle temps now are high 30's to mid 40's)

vcore or fsbt will fix it.

[CBird28]

hi i got an x38 maximus formula, is it possible to have 2 raid setups? i already have 2x 250gb drives in RAID0, but i also need a raid1 setup, i got 250gb of data on my media hdd and if that died i would probably cry. So is it poss to have a raid0 and a raid 1 setup on the mobo? or would i have to get a controller?

[chawks2]

So is it poss to have a raid0 and a raid 1 setup on the mobo? or would i have to get a controller?

Absotutely, I have a RAID 1 & 5 right now on the ICHR. Your biggest issue is going to be ports. Most configs these days have a SATA CD, so you end up with 5.

[binormalkilla]

binorma if those are the OCZ plats they start erroring around 1120, I really haven't played with them that much yet, I will see if I can get memtest to pass higher.

Nah, they're the Geil Evo One's (4x2GB.)

[vodka3dg]

hi, i'd appreciate if anyone could tell me wich the latest rampage formula (x48) bios is that i can fit into my P5E 403 works like a charm, but perhaps (at least i hope so) a newer version will make it work even better.
many thanks in advance ppl!

btw, is there anybody out there with a Q6600 vid1.3125 that is also this high on volts? i mean 1.456v for Linpack 64bit 10 min stable (VTT 1.20, PLL 1.5).
the thing is that it is really difficult to get to 3.6GHz with this cpu... i had an older Q6600 G0 with the exact same vid that would do it with 1.55v (sold the sucker :p).. PLL and VTT don't seem to do the trick.. tried different STRAPS and MCH voltages too, till i got really fed up and let it sable as it is now. does anybody have any thoughts on this? would apreciate: trying to run 3dm_vantage with higher cpu clocks + my pencil-modded 4850

[Grnfinger]

hi, i'd appreciate if anyone could tell me wich the latest rampage formula (x48) bios is that i can fit into my P5E 403 works like a charm, but perhaps (at least i hope so) a newer version will make it work even better.
many thanks in advance ppl!

btw, is there anybody out there with a Q6600 vid1.3125 that is also this high on volts? i mean 1.456v for Linpack 64bit 10 min stable (VTT 1.20, PLL 1.5).
the thing is that it is really difficult to get to 3.6GHz with this cpu... i had an older Q6600 G0 with the exact same vid that would do it with 1.55v (sold the sucker :p).. PLL and VTT don't seem to do the trick.. tried different STRAPS and MCH voltages too, till i got really fed up and let it sable as it is now. does anybody have any thoughts on this? would apreciate: trying to run 3dm_vantage with higher cpu clocks + my pencil-modded 4850

New 65nm quads do not clock very well and they scale rather horrible.
I have had 3 Q6600's and 1 Q6700 and they all needed atleast 1.4875 for 3600MHz.
imo 1.20vtt for 65nm quad at 3600 is way to low and is problably the problem.

I would recommend 1.40vtt and 1.60PLL, but it could be the Rampage bios on your P5E limiting your overclock. Have you tried to flash back and see if you can get the chip stable?

So my pump died a couple of days ago, and I was experimenting with ways to run pumpless until I got a replacement pump. So I set my chip to the stock vcore of 1.232v, dropped the multiplier to x6 and started bumping fsb till I got this:

Edit: Idle was 50c on highest core, and prime blend load was 70 before I stopped it.

Sorry to hear about your pump, did you lose any hardware?

[vodka3dg]

New 65nm quads do not clock very well and they scale rather horrible.
I have had 3 Q6600's and 1 Q6700 and they all needed atleast 1.4875 for 3600MHz.
imo 1.20vtt for 65nm quad at 3600 is way to low and is problably the problem.

I would recommend 1.40vtt and 1.60PLL, but it could be the Rampage bios on your P5E limiting your overclock. Have you tried to flash back and see if you can get the chip stable?



Sorry to hear about your pump, did you lose any hardware?

you're probably right about new 65 quads... i got my hands on 3 of them (all vid 1.3215), and even thought some say vid has nothing to do with OC potential the three of them made me feel a complete chump for buying/recommending them, oc potential wise.

i did go back to (i dont remember wich) P5E bios... with my previous quad i could switch between RF and P5E maintaining the overclock. still, the only 2 reasons i still use the RF bios is because it has many more options (of which i don't know if all ar functional ) and the lovely post splash screen i get so i wouldn't mind switching back to the corresponding bios.

thanks for the advice on PLL and VTT... i tried 1.6PLL, but it didn't cross my mind going that high on vtt i'll start with FSB400x9 then (if success) test FSB450.. the later one would be the best choice obviously

another question... do you, or anybody else know how much fsb to expect when using STRAP 266? thks

[Zucker2k]

Sorry to hear about your pump, did you lose any hardware?

Cory, thanks. I did lose my raid0 setup. Strangely, this was right after I did a bios flash from 0308 to 0701. I don't want to blame it on that, but I suspect something went awry. I did lose a lot of valuable software/media collection. I got a new pump so all is well and dandy.

Oh, I got my filthy paws on a 4870 x2.

[CBird28]

Absotutely, I have a RAID 1 & 5 right now on the ICHR. Your biggest issue is going to be ports. Most configs these days have a SATA CD, so you end up with 5.

ok cheers fella. I use the intel matrix software im sure will sort it. Thanks

[binormalkilla]

Anyone who flashed from the Maximus Formula to Rampage have the problem where temp monitoring on the nortbridge and voltages on RAM and NB just go away? I monitor temps and voltages on my G15 and they just disappear after some time....weird.

[Grnfinger]

Cory, thanks. I did lose my raid0 setup. Strangely, this was right after I did a bios flash from 0308 to 0701. I don't want to blame it on that, but I suspect something went awry. I did lose a lot of valuable software/media collection. I got a new pump so all is well and dandy.

Oh, I got my filthy paws on a 4870 x2.

me too
its in tha mail now.

Anyone who flashed from the Maximus Formula to Rampage have the problem where temp monitoring on the nortbridge and voltages on RAM and NB just go away? I monitor temps and voltages on my G15 and they just disappear after some time....weird.

When I did the flash I had the same problem, I updated my chipset drivers and all was well.

[KALISPIMENTA]

Need some help! can someone with a q6600 and some g skill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk memory post their bios settings.I had to reflash the bios and didnt save my oc and now cannot get 3.6ghz stable.
Thnak You

[binormalkilla]

me too
its in tha mail now.





When I did the flash I had the same problem, I updated my chipset drivers and all was well.

Using the same installation as before? Just overwriting or what? I have to reactivate Vista too :p
I'm going to update the chipset drivers tonight. Maybe the Intel installation program will recognize different driver files or something.
Thanks!

BTW enjoy that 4870X2....she's a beast!

[ZenEffect]

me too
its in tha mail now.

*jealous*

some bandwidth pr0n. tested memtest86+ stable last night testing lower and lower volts. currently 2.14 *working in reverse from 2.25*

this is 2x1gb newegg ram (crucial lanfest) pc6400



if you want my settings let me know.

[Grnfinger]

*jealous*

some bandwidth pr0n. tested memtest86+ stable last night testing lower and lower volts. currently 2.14 *working in reverse from 2.25*

this is 2x1gb newegg ram (crucial lanfest) pc6400



if you want my settings let me know.

Jeebus man that is some sweet ram, NICE timings!!

gotta link?

[binormalkilla]

*jealous*

some bandwidth pr0n. tested memtest86+ stable last night testing lower and lower volts. currently 2.14 *working in reverse from 2.25*

this is 2x1gb newegg ram (crucial lanfest) pc6400



if you want my settings let me know.

Holy crap man that's insane. Great job.