Quad Core Round Up: AMD Vs Intel Clock to Clock(deneb vs agena + deneb vs intel)

[Throwed]

There are as other points out little that differ between AMD/Intel CPU's when using eyecandy/hig res.

Care to elaborate? My old overclocked Q6600 system was no faster at gaming than my friends 9850BE when gaming at our native of 1680X1050 AA/AF. Looking at the review in this very thread proves that there is no difference between frames per sec at 1680X1050.....even when AA/AF aren't applied sometimes. Now if you know something I don't then please let me know.

BTW, nice try at flame baiting. Don't throw rocks then hide your hands.

Not to mention the awesome overclocks and the chance to upgrade when amd releases their 6 and 8 core cpu's later this year.

Good point. I think that is when I am going to splurge. For now a drop in upgrade is all I need with the current setup I have. There should be a better selection of motherboards later on too.

[TL1000S]

Care to elaborate? My old overclocked Q6600 system was no faster at gaming than my friends 9850BE when gaming at our native of 1680X1050 AA/AF. Looking at the review in this very thread proves that there is no difference between frames per sec at 1680X1050.....even when AA/AF aren't applied sometimes. Now if you know something I don't then please let me know.

BTW, nice try at flame baiting.

You are a crown example of a fanboi.
What did I write, and what did you answer?
Hint:
The same piece of fact.
There are few reasons to choose an Intel CPU based rig over an AMD ditto as long as you are using 1680x1050+AA/AF in your favorite game.
The *TOPIC* we are discussing, the test done by Overclocker_gr confirm this.
It is more important to choose the correct brand/setup of GPU depending of the game.
Can you or other blind fanbois get on in your life now?
What a crap post you managed to write!

[speedfreak86]

Just for s&gs I downclocked to 3.7 and ran the cinebench on the ole q6600 and still got the result below. It should be noted when cinebench is run only using the multicore test (as shown in the phenom II screenshot above) this decreased my score by about 500 points.

[roofsniper]

Sorry but the people who are pro amd are usually those that are the thread destroyers

thats obviously not the case in this one.

Then why are you(and others) here "spamming" the forums?
This is XtremeSystems, the "premiere" site for us benchers, record-seekers.
Not "lamegamer.org" or similar.
If any of you really were into gaming you would not be here defending certain CPU makers calling other poster names/trolls/boasting about knowledge about "ignore-button".

Do some gameing instead.
Or better yet, accept other peoples views and right to an opinion.
Even those you dislike.

PS/Edit:
When you really wants performance in games you buy the best(price vs.performance) GPU for your favorite game.
There are as other points out little that differ between AMD/Intel CPU's when using eyecandy/hig res.
(Well.. unless you use a Celeron D).

wait you are telling me to accept others opinions in the same exact post that they are telling me to not care about gaming benchmarks? i am accepting others opinions i just think that some people like zucker here don't have an opinion and instead are just posting to bash someone about something. and yes as far as performance goes gaming performance matters the most to me. but does that mean i don't care about anything else and only want gaming benchmarks? ummmm no. i just find it crazy that people can look at benchmarks and think that the performance shown by them will show real world performance and show exactly how the cpu is. benchmarks are useful for comparing the same cpu with others. as we have seen here clock to clock agena is better sometimes. why? because the benchmark favors its core. i find many benchmarks to be completely useless but its nice to use benchmarks when you are tweaking your system to see how it changes its results.

[TL1000S]

wait you are telling me to accept others opinions in the same exact post that they are telling me to not care about gaming benchmarks?

Say again?

"you are telling me"... "they are telling me"...

You are entitled to an opinion, and I usually enjoy your posts.

I am not telling you nothing. I am arguing with you. This is a discussion forum remember?

Edit:

Great work Vozer!

If you bring in the price factor we see a winner I think.
Remember that the ci7-route will mean 20% performance increase (mostly synthetic) for 500% the price (completyely new rig vs. new CPU).

[Chad Boga]

Good point. I think that is when I am going to splurge. For now a drop in upgrade is all I need with the current setup I have. There should be a better selection of motherboards later on too.

Is it a good point?

Will the 6 and 8 core versions(and God only knows when AMD will actually release them) work in an AM2+ motherboard or will you have to go AM3 and pay the DDR3 tax?

[roofsniper]

Is it a good point?

Will the 6 and 8 core versions(and God only knows when AMD will actually release them) work in an AM2+ motherboard or will you have to go AM3 and pay the DDR3 tax?

the 6 cores and 8 cores shouldn't even be am3. it should be one of those new rectangular sockets that amd has created. and what do you mean god only knows when they will be released? its not very hard to just google it....... idk if amd is even making an 8 core.

[Chad Boga]

the 6 cores and 8 cores shouldn't even be am3.

Are you so sure?

Hasn't AMD said they aren't supplying AM2+ Quads after Q2 09, yet you think 6 & 8 core versions will work with AM2+ boards?

and what do you mean god only knows when they will be released? its not very hard to just google it.......

Well unlike you, I don't automatically believe everything I see on an AMD Powerpoint slide.

idk if amd is even making an 8 core.

Hence my question about when it would be released.

[rk7p5]

Amd said they will be coming out with 6 and 12 core cpu's for servers. I also read something about 8 core desktop cpu for 09, possibly that's what the Phenom fx will be.

[roofsniper]

Are you so sure?

Hasn't AMD said they aren't supplying AM2+ Quads after Q2 09, yet you think 6 & 8 core versions will work with AM2+ boards?


Well unlike you, I don't automatically believe everything I see on an AMD Powerpoint slide.


Hence my question about when it would be released.

ok so heres a few things. if you actually read my post i said it is using amd's new rectangular socket. no where did i say it uses am2+. also why do i need to look at all the amd power point slides? why can't i just ask them? or even better walk in there and look at them.

[Throwed]

Roofsniper.......Him and a few others in here DON'T read or DON'T know how to read. Keep your IQ and don't argue with brick walls. A few of these fellas talk loud and say nothing. They usually end up making themselves look silly anyway as you can see.

[Chad Boga]

ok so heres a few things. if you actually read my post

Yes, but it didn't appear to make a lot of sense.

i said it is using amd's new rectangular socket. no where did i say it uses am2+

So what did you mean by saying "the 6 cores and 8 cores shouldn't even be am3."?

Aren't all AMD CPU's released in the next 12 to 18 months at least going to either be on AM2+ or AM3 socket only? As you appeared to rule out AM3, that is why I questioned you about AM2+

also why do i need to look at all the amd power point slides? why can't i just ask them?

You have a direct line to Dirk?

or even better walk in there and look at them.

They will let you pass security?

[Throwed]

Yes, but it didn't appear to make a lot of sense.


So what did you mean by saying "the 6 cores and 8 cores shouldn't even be am3."?

Aren't all AMD CPU's released in the next 12 to 18 months at least going to either be on AM2+ or AM3 socket only? As you appeared to rule out AM3, that is why I questioned you about AM2+


You have a direct line to Dirk?


They will let you pass security?

Actually YOUR post is the one that doesn't make sense.