Quad Core Round Up: AMD Vs Intel Clock to Clock(deneb vs agena + deneb vs intel)

[Zucker2k]

Put some 2.4+ at deneb's nothbridge and u will see how far behind is the phenom II...(i've seen 920 phenom II @ 2.6 easily...)

I'm pretty sure every intel guy would do this in his kentsfield/yorkfield when he would overclock....(if they had one )

So i'm pretty sure phenom II has some aces in his sleeve....

We have the fsb, and look what it does!!

[leoy]

U are already high on fsb at 3.7 to 4 .
Phenom II can go to 3.7 -4 and tweak tha nb at whatever speed u want.
@ 2.6nb and some ddr3 maybe we will have nice numbers. Here we aren't just overclockers we tweak everything.
Yorkfield's everything is just fsb which u already tweak...

@64bit windows phenom II kick ass too mate u aren't even informed.

[Zucker2k]

U are already high on fsb at 3.7 to 4 .
Phenom II can go to 3.7 -4 and tweak tha nb at whatever speed u want.
@ 2.6nb and some ddr3 maybe we will have nice numbers. Here we aren't just overclockers we tweak everything.
Yorkfield's everything is just fsb which u already tweak...

@64bit windows phenom II kick ass too mate u aren't even informed.

Maybe you're dense; all the same, chew on this:

[Caveman787]

Well to be fair for that comparison to be chew worthy you'd need to lower the phenom's clock but raise tits northbridge, htt and hypertransport clocks.

Also likely the memory because I havnt seen any with good mhz and timings.

Edit: under closer inspection 1gb 800mhz memory vs. 8gb 1000mhz memory...

Edit 2: sorry was gonna say 400/500 at first then changed it.

[roofsniper]

Well to be fair for that comparison to be chew worthy you'd need to lower the phenom's clock but raise tits northbridge, htt and hypertransport clocks.

Also likely the memory because I havnt seen any with good mhz and timings.

Edit: under closer inspection 1gb 400mhz memory vs. 8gb 1000mhz memory...

yes its a completely horrible comparison since how i have seen many more. it seems hes just picking the best yorkfield he can find and then find the worst phenom II benchmark out with the absolute worst settings. and the phenom has 800 mhz ram not 400.

[Zucker2k]

yes its a completely horrible comparison since how i have seen many more. it seems hes just picking the best yorkfield he can find and then find the worst phenom II benchmark out with the absolute worst settings. and the phenom has 800 mhz ram not 400.

You of all people are just uninformed, and I've chosen to ignore your posts, but let me say this: just scroll up and jou'll notice somebody used this same screenshot as proof that PII benches at 3.7Ghz should have been faster.

Why don't you guys do this: get your PIIs and beat that!!

[roofsniper]

You of all people are just uninformed, and I've chosen to ignore your posts, but let me say this: just scroll up and jou'll notice somebody used this same screenshot as proof that PII benches at 3.7Ghz should have been faster.

Why don't you guys do this: get your PIIs and beat that!!

i really don't understand how you can call any of us uninformed. i know more than you do about the topic and personally you don't even seem to care as long as you can find certain benchmarks and try to prove that phenom sucks.

[Zucker2k]

Well to be fair for that comparison to be chew worthy you'd need to lower the phenom's clock but raise tits northbridge, htt and hypertransport clocks.

Also likely the memory because I havnt seen any with good mhz and timings.

Edit: under closer inspection 1gb 400mhz memory vs. 8gb 1000mhz memory...

Sigh! Please point us to the evidence that more ram helps cinebench. If anything, my NB is being tasked with such high fsb and 8Gbs. This is my everyday system and this is currently the hardware config. that's all. Of course, you guys can consider this a target when you get your PIIs. All you hear is excuses, DDR3, Expensive, Hot, etc.

This is a Q9550 with 8GB of cheap DDR2 ram at DDR2 990Mhz with loose timings.

[demonkevy666]

Sigh! Please point us to the evidence that more ram helps cinebench. If anything, my NB is being tasked with such high fsb and 8Gbs. This is my everyday system and this is currently the hardware config. that's all. Of course, you guys can consider this a target when you get your PIIs. All you hear is excuses, DDR3, Expensive, Hot, etc.

This is a Q9550 with 8GB of cheap DDR2 ram at DDR2 990Mhz with loose timings.

phenom is weird with memory and Nb settings some chips will run high on both other run high one one and low on the other.

as for the memory being loose it's really that lose it's like set for a rate 1000mhz-1100mhz speed (with various volts). tight timings doesn't benefit phenom at all from what I've seen). The IMC on the chip can be picky about how much volts you use too.

[leoy]

@ zucker2k
All i see is that i am right again.

Score of yorkfield @3.7 @ hwbox : 14602 (with 411 fsb )
http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=3253&garpg=12

Wanna put the nb little higher too???
Unless yorkfield also wins 2000 points when going 64bit

[accord99]

@ zucker2k
Wanna put the nb little higher too???
Unless yorkfield also wins 2000 points when going 64bit

Yorkfield gains about 1600 points:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=3184&p=12

[Daveburt714]

@ zucker2k
All i see is that i am right again.

Score of yorkfield @3.7 @ hwbox : 14602 (with 411 fsb )
http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=3253&garpg=12

Wanna put the nb little higher too???
Unless yorkfield also wins 2000 points when going 64bit

leoy: I couldn't agree with you more...
Ever since the 1st word of PhII's potential has come out Zucker2k has done everything in his power to discredit the improvements make in K10.5.... Call anyone who speaks well of the improvements blind fanboi's etc...

When he posted his CB10 results from his Yorkie, I was not that impressed.

Thanks for the PhII results... Here is a ss of my tweaked 9950 and even it gives his beloved Intel a run for it's money.



BTW: His Q9950 run was on a 64bit OS.....

[Zucker2k]

@ zucker2k
All i see is that i am right again.

Score of yorkfield @3.7 @ hwbox : 14602 (with 411 fsb )
http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?t=3253&garpg=12

Wanna put the nb little higher too???
Unless yorkfield also wins 2000 points when going 64bit

No, you're wrong again. Hopefully you and a few others in this thread are learning something new everyday....

That's almost 1Ghz advantage to PHII with virtually the same score. Don't bring PHII to a cinebench party.