AMD is back? Phenom II@3D06

[mAJORD]

associativity is usually a product of cache size though.. larger cache, higher associativity is required.. So it's not really a 'seperate' factor to cache size..

If you look at 512kb K8 Vs 1Mb K8, Pi times increase by approximatly 5%..

If you took the L3 away from K10 completely, (propus.. we need you for this discussion [that belongs elsewhere.. sorry ] ) and bumped its L2 to 2Mb, it would still fall well behind Yonah, which for the record, does spi 1M in about 23 sec @ 2.7ghz despite all the building blocks of the architectures being either equal or superior for the K10

[demonkevy666]

associativity is usually a product of cache size though.. larger cache, higher associativity is required.. So it's not really a 'seperate' factor to cache size..

If you look at 512kb K8 Vs 1Mb K8, Pi times increase by approximatly 5%..

If you took the L3 away from K10 completely, (propus.. we need you for this discussion [that belongs elsewhere.. sorry ] ) and bumped its L2 to 2Mb, it would still fall well behind Yonah, which for the record, does spi 1M in about 23 sec @ 2.7ghz despite all the building blocks of the architectures being either equal or superior for the K10

5% is small

4 way 32K cache vs 2 way 64K cache.

[imsochobo]

speed have been bumped slightly from phenom1-phenom2.

if phenom 2 had 6 mb of L2 it would be much better than the current config, just in superpi and single threaded applications.

numbercrounching isnt exactly what we need, all the reasons why amd perform bad in superpi is unknown for me, but i dont care, most useless benchmark by my oppinion.

and that HT link affect hdd and all that, ERR wrong, its between PCI-E and chipset->cpu vise versa, and there is huuuge amounbts of traffic.
cpu cores communicate with eachother. so the ht link isnt some fluffy thing for some subsystem performance.