"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Rise]

I wish I got the p5q-pro. damn me for getting a board with only 1 pcie x16

[Leeghoofd]

I cant get these Leeghoofd -> G SKILL DDR2 PC2-8000 4GB PQ SERIES DUAL CHANNEL (2x2GB) for 55€ what do you think of these also?

They were about the same performance as the Redlines mate, but the Mushkins could handle 266 strap while the Gskills couldn't do that ( at first I thought it was my setttings but it was the ram) with the same timings...(meaning PL and Clock twister) Ram subtimings I always left on AUTO. I just set 5-5-5-15 TRFC 55 for both kits and 1.92Vdimm woked liek a charm on my both P5Q Dlx and E board

Both kits passed 1100mhz pretty easy without exuberant volts...

[Melhisedek]

Well after close to a month tweaking this thing I give up... Can't break 4gig for the life of me Just don't know if it is board or the CPU (E8400 E0) that is dud :/ Memory oc like crazy but no use for that

[Big Lar]

About the best I can do with this setup with reasonable voltages...


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Larry

[MarkJohnson]

I wish I got the p5q-pro. damn me for getting a board with only 1 pcie x16

The P5Q-Pro is the same in only having one x16 slot running at full x16 speeds. In fact all P45 boards are like this.

[omiez]

Hello Again

I have a little trouble with the Board.

I made a lot of tests with several softwares to look for a stable system.

So far it was all ok. Runned Orthos a long time in Priority 9 and Intel Burn Test with 15 Passes without error.
I made a long test with prime95 too and Memtest86 to have a look for errors but it was all ok.

Now when i start Games,randomly, the system freezes the picture stops and i hear only stuttering audio and nothing helps only by pushing the reboot button i can restart the system,this can happen after 5min of game or 1 hour random.

Does anyone expect the same problem with the Board, stable tests and when gaming the system hangs ?

My config is
P5Q Deluxe
G.Skill F2 8500 1066Mhz @ 1080Mhz same problem a 900Mhz 5.5.5.15
Intel E8400 Cooled By Noctua NH-U12P
NVidia GTX260 POV

With FSB 400 for CPU and 1066Mhz Ram i didn't expect it right now but i am still testing.


The same problem i have expected on Maximus 2 Formula with the same hardware.

What can be the problem ?

Anyone help me please.

TNX

[Big Lar]

Hello Again

I have a little trouble with the Board.

I made a lot of tests with several softwares to look for a stable system.

So far it was all ok. Runned Orthos a long time in Priority 9 and Intel Burn Test with 15 Passes without error.
I made a long test with prime95 too and Memtest86 to have a look for errors but it was all ok.

Now when i start Games,randomly, the system freezes the picture stops and i hear only stuttering audio and nothing helps only by pushing the reboot button i can restart the system,this can happen after 5min of game or 1 hour random.

Does anyone expect the same problem with the Board, stable tests and when gaming the system hangs ?

My config is
P5Q Deluxe
G.Skill F2 8500 1066Mhz @ 1080Mhz same problem a 900Mhz 5.5.5.15
Intel E8400 Cooled By Noctua NH-U12P
NVidia GTX260 POV

With FSB 400 for CPU and 1066Mhz Ram i didn't expect it right now but i am still testing.


The same problem i have expected on Maximus 2 Formula with the same hardware.

What can be the problem ?

Anyone help me please.

TNX

Whenever I have had that problem, it was either ram voltage or NB voltage.

Larry

[Leeghoofd]

Which games are we talking about ? have you enabled Vsync for these games and locked PCI express frequency at 100 or 101 ?

Well after close to a month tweaking this thing I give up... Can't break 4gig for the life of me Just don't know if it is board or the CPU (E8400 E0) that is dud :/ Memory oc like crazy but no use for that

Board desing it is not, as 500FSB daily is really nothing. Either you got a bad or unlucky board or something else is terribly wrong... did you already fill in a template ? and plz list all of ya hardware... 4ghz with a wolfdale should be absolutely no problem

[omiez]

[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3538513]Which games are we talking about ? have you enabled Vsync for these games and locked PCI express frequency at 100 or 101 ?


GTA IV,Crysis Warehead,Race Driver Greed.
No,Vsync is deactivated in Games and the Pci Express Frequency is Fixed to 101Mhz.

The curious thing is that it happens an 2 Boards With P45 Chipset.

I do not esxpect a Memory problem cause the tests are 100% ok.
It happens when i go in 3D with games only.
Can it be the Pocessor ? Maybe unlucky one ?
My PSU is a Tagan 700W i tryed another Tagan 700W too, same prob.

I have a pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400 2x2Gb that arrived today, what do you think about them for this Board compared to My G.Skill's ?

[Leeghoofd]

Well we and others have experienced this too on other P45 platforms. For me to get my games stable I just had to activate Vsync in the games that locked my Pc (IBT, Prime whatever you name it, it was stable) just not in GTR2, enabling Vsync saved my day...
This is the first time in years of pc usage that I needed to enable Vsync... try it and report back plz

[omiez]

Well we and others have experienced this too on other P45 platforms. For me to get my games stable I just had to activate Vsync in the games that locked my Pc (IBT, Prime whatever you name it, it was stable) just not in GTR2, enabling Vsync saved my day...
This is the first time in years of pc usage that I needed to enable Vsync... try it and report back plz

Tomorrow i will try it out and give feedback.

Thank you for now.

Good night.

I have a pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400 2x2Gb that arrived today, what do you think about them for this Board compared to My G.Skill's ?

[BababooeyHTJ]

Tomorrow i will try it out and give feedback.

Thank you for now.

Good night.

I have a pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer Pc6400 2x2Gb that arrived today, what do you think about them for this Board compared to My G.Skill's ?

I had a very similar problem when I upraded to 8gb of ram. I would get odd stuttering in games. I was Memtest 86+ and 3.8 stable, Prime 16+ hours stable. The only test that I could get to fail was IBT, but it took like 20 runs. When I poped in the new kit alone the stuttering got a bit worse but I still wouldnt fail any tests other than IBT. Im running fine right now with my old 2x2gb kit after a format.

[omiez]

Well we and others have experienced this too on other P45 platforms. For me to get my games stable I just had to activate Vsync in the games that locked my Pc (IBT, Prime whatever you name it, it was stable) just not in GTR2, enabling Vsync saved my day...
This is the first time in years of pc usage that I needed to enable Vsync... try it and report back plz

I tested GTAIV and with Vsync i encountered the same problem, it freezed again same with Race Driver Grid and Crysis Warhead.

My operating system is Vista Home Premium 64Bit.

[Leeghoofd]

Run furmark and monitor the temps of the GPU ( via everest home eg ) ,does it do the same when running no OC ? you could try the other rams too ofcourse... but it's weird you experienced this on the maximus formula 2 too...

I run HCI memtest in windows, memtest via Dos doesn't always find errors with 2GB dimms... and prime what did you run ? small FFT , blend ? for how long ? IBT is nice as a final stress test but is not that good in finding ram errors either...

last queston did you reinstall the OS after the mobo swap ?

[omiez]

Run furmark and monitor the temps of the GPU ( via everest home eg ) ,does it do the same when running no OC ? you could try the other rams too ofcourse... but it's weird you experienced this on the maximus formula 2 too...

I run HCI memtest in windows, memtest via Dos doesn't always find errors with 2GB dimms... and prime what did you run ? small FFT , blend ? for how long ? IBT is nice as a final stress test but is not that good in finding ram errors either...

last queston did you reinstall the OS after the mobo swap ?

The GPU temp is monitored all the time when i play and the temp is about 50°C with the fan @60%. No when i am out of OC the system runs stable.
Yes i installed the OS 3-4 times now while testing and changing hardware.
I had run memtest86 via dos several time with no errors.
When i launch HCI memtest from windows the system slows a lot down and HCI memtest is trying to fill my swap file and did not work,for this i wrote to HCI for further information.

The same hardware i a m using was tested on a Commando Board and it runs stable 4ghz 24/24.

I am going to try the Crucial Ram now.

[gurusan]

Having problems getting 500fsb stable on my e8500. can anyone help? this chip is stable at 485*9.5 btw.

I have 4x1gb OCZ 8500 SLI ....easily do 1186mhz @ 2.16V actual

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: 11


CPU Voltage: 1.40625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .655
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .655
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: .63
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED

[omiez]

The GPU temp is monitored all the time when i play and the temp is about 50°C with the fan @60%. No when i am out of OC the system runs stable.
Yes i installed the OS 3-4 times now while testing and changing hardware.
I had run memtest86 via dos several time with no errors.
When i launch HCI memtest from windows the system slows a lot down and HCI memtest is trying to fill my swap file and did not work,for this i wrote to HCI for further information.

The same hardware i a m using was tested on a Commando Board and it runs stable 4ghz 24/24.

I am going to try the Crucial Ram now.

I tryed also with the Crucial Ram .......same problem.

What can be happened ?

Maybe the CPU is not happy to work on a P45 ?

[angelreaper]

Vcore 1.275 in bios:

With P5Q Deluxe 1702m

[nigelke]

Vcore 1.275 in bios:

With P5Q Deluxe 1702m

nice one

could you give me more info on what you did inside the bios?
got the same cpu but i am having problems getting it higher

its probebly my fault ^^ being the overclocking noob

[angelreaper]

nice one

could you give me more info on what you did inside the bios?
got the same cpu but i am having problems getting it higher

its probebly my fault ^^ being the overclocking noob

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 471
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO


CPU Voltage: 1.2750
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED

[Melhisedek]

Board desing it is not, as 500FSB daily is really nothing. Either you got a bad or unlucky board or something else is terribly wrong... did you already fill in a template ? and plz list all of ya hardware... 4ghz with a wolfdale should be absolutely no problem

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 440 (445 is no go)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: auto (so rest of mem things are auto as well I guess)

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: moderate
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO


CPU Voltage: 1.4000    (tried fooling around with this setting but no luck)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : auto
NB Clock Skew : auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED

and the CPU menu it is all disabled

I really have no idea what I'm doing wrong... CPU is cooled with TRUE 120 and Scythe fan. Temps are fine even with 1.4 Volts.

Rest of the system...

2x2 Gig Corsair 4GB (KIT) DDR2 1066MHz, XMS2-8500
750 W Corsair PSU.
Antec 1200 Case
2 SATA HD (not raid)
8800 GTS 512 MB
IDE DVD burner
Vista Ultimate 64

I'm testing with Orthos for stability and the poor thing is failing. 4 gig is no go sadly. Tried lowering multi but still 4Gig is impossible to pass. RAM passes memtest in every possible way up to 1000 FSB haven't tried higher. No idea what to do and what to try. Latest drivers and BIOS ofc

[lexus232]

Sorry for stupid question, where is located NB on P5Q Deluxe?

[Martin.v.r]

500+ fsb whit QX6850

PLL 1.56V
FSB 1.36V
NB 1.44v

[dammit32]

i've seen the recent posts of Q9550 and it seems like good info but i'm at 3.9 ghz with 460 fsb and all my settings match angelreaper's but i cant get thru a benchmarch (pcmark06) without freezing.

[dammit32]

i raised the vcore to 1.3000 and semms stable now